list your top 3 p4p

[shadyasfok]

1. anderson after he destroys forrest
2. gsp
3. machida

[HHJ]

Fedor
Gsp
Machida

[McLulz]

die gook

[HHJ]

Anderson is 4 til he starts fighting instead of dancing

[shadyasfok]

Fedor
Gsp
Machida

fedor is #1 despite him ducking the biggest org in the world to fight nobodies for no money?

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

hopefully jihad logs on soon

[shadyasfok]

Anderson is 4 til he starts fighting instead of dancing

right now he's 2 but after he beats former LHW champ forrest, he will be undisputed #1

[HHJ]

He's (fedor) beyond everything,solidasfok

[shadyasfok]

jihad can eat my ass

[Buckner1986]

Fedor
GSP
Anderson

[Buckner1986]

jihad can delete my ass

Oh, he will.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

its good to see you here solid I was really upset without talk shit now posts

[shadyasfok]

its good to see you here solid I was really upset without talk shit now posts

gotten to

[shadyasfok]

Oh, he will.

just like capt ramius deleted vitali?

[HHJ]

Yeah saf cant be gone for too long or else the place goes to hell

[snipe]

1. chonan
2. mir
3. koscheck

[HHJ]

Good list snipuh

[snipe]

TALK SHIT NOW

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[snipe]

TALK SHIT NOW

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[HHJ]

How far does canderson fall if he goes down saturday night?

[snipe]

he falls into a boxing ring where he promptly gets KOed 3 times in one fight has a brain hemorrhage and dies

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

:roflnut:

[HHJ]

Koscheck may have the best talk shit now face in mma

[Polish Strong Man Can]

1. Jose Canseco


2. Jose Canseco


3. Jose Canseco

[Polish Strong Man Can]

TALK SHIT NOW
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[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

TALK SHIT NOW
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[heathenos]

Machida
GSP
Torres

[shadyasfok]

How far does canderson fall if he goes down saturday night?

he doesn't

[shadyasfok]

BJ Fedor Silva in no particular order

lol

[shadyasfok]

Machida
GSP
Torres

you hate gsp and you like anderson

[heathenos]

you hate gsp and you like anderson

dont' worry, I'll replace GSP with Penn if Penn wins tomorrow. and I'll remove Torres and replace him with Anderson if he wins tomorrow.

and yes, fuck that french faggot.

[shadyasfok]

I'm no BJ Penn fan, though I'm not a hater either. You can't deny his skill I just think Kenny will win.

i'm a bj hater but i don't see what kenny can do to win

diego sanchez on the other hand...

and bj is def behind silva, gsp and machida in p4p

[shadyasfok]

dont' worry, I'll replace GSP with Penn if Penn wins tomorrow. and I'll remove Torres and replace him with Anderson if he wins tomorrow.

and yes, fuck that french faggot.

lol, gsp has cleaned out his whole division. bj would only have defended twice

[shadyasfok]

anderson: cleaned out whole division, will be #1 undisputed p4p when he beats former LHW champ griffin

gsp: cleaned out whole division, only thing left is a superfight with silva, which he would lose, but i'd still watch it

machida: still not a fan but he's undefeated

[shadyasfok]

an anderson vs. machida fight would be interesting, i seriously think it would end in a draw

[shadyasfok]

lol, everyone who says florian is gonna win says something to this effect

[shadyasfok]

BJ's mind is his downfall. Physically he is nearly perfect but as morpheus says the body cannot live without the mind. His lack of mental fortitude will destroy him, just like it will destroy GSP

what the fuck

[shadyasfok]

GSP is mentally weak, his corner is what keeps him from freaking out

in the words of bj penn

DID HE REALLY SAY THIS SHIT

[shadyasfok]

why? cuz he lost to serra? if he really was a "mental midget", he would've gotten ko'ed in his next 5 fights and play russian roulette with arlovski

[Twincest]

1. anderson after he destroys forrest
2. gsp
3. machida

i don't think 'bout p4p too much, but this looks about right.

[shadyasfok]

I didn't say he was a mental midget, or stupid. I just said he's mentally instable/insecure in himself. It's obvious when they go to his corner. I've been in life or death situations with less doubt than he exudes. Anyone crying about their groin in a level of athletics as high as GSP is in has mental issues. I can't count how many times I've pulled my groin.

you got to be kidding me

[shadyasfok]

You're young so I doubt you understand the concept of how willpower and strength of mind can make up for physical ineptitude.

don't tell me you're picking forrest griffin

[shadyasfok]

you act as if gsp broke after he pulled his groin. fact of the matter is he still dominated the fight and learning afterward that he had pulled his groin only proved he's a real warrior

[Ryno]

Machida
GSP
Torres

[shadyasfok]

but of course, since it's gsp, if he even blinks at the weigh in, he's a fucking nutjob

[shadyasfok]

Machida
GSP
Torres

torres ahead of anderson?

what the flying fuck

[shadyasfok]

He had people behind him man. I'm just saying on his own GSP seems to have some insecurity issues, is all.

his corner didn't fight alves for him

[Ryno]

With the exception of his past 2 fights, Anderson has looked spectacular in the UFC. Torres has looked spectacular his whole career.

[HHJ]

GSP is mentally weak, his corner is what keeps him from freaking out

If your corner tells you something and you do it there is no problem

[Ryno]

I think thats just the way Greg Jackson is. I dont think GSP is a weak minded person. He is no Diego Sanchez, but i think he is pretty head strong. I do agree that at a high level of competition, your head plays a BIG role in your performance. If GSP was weak minded, he wouldnt perform so well IMO.

[___]

Machida
Torres
Penn

[Ryno]

Machida
Torres
Penn
Glad to see Torres on that list.

[shadyasfok]

I'm a GSP fan I'm just sayin

i'd argue gsp is more mentally stable than rampage

[shadyasfok]

With the exception of his past 2 fights, Anderson has looked spectacular in the UFC. Torres has looked spectacular his whole career.

come the fuck on

[shadyasfok]

Machida
Torres
Penn

:facepalm:

[Ryno]

come the fuck on
Was Anderson considered one of the best fighters in the world before he fought Leben?

[sher-bant]

Solid. If I pay, will you go to a UFC event with me. Just the two of us?:facepalm:

[shadyasfok]

Was Anderson considered one of the best fighters in the world before he fought Leben?

was torres even in the p4p discussion before last year?

[Gedanke]

In no particular order: Forrest (after he murders Silva), Andy Wang and Junie Browning.

[shadyasfok]

Solid. If I pay, will you go to a UFC event with me. Just the two of us?

fuck you tld

[Ryno]

Answering a question with a question = gotten to.

[shadyasfok]

i wouldn't be all that surprised if bowles beat torres

[HHJ]

Why do you hate torres,saf?

[shadyasfok]

i don't hate torres but i think it's hypocritical to say anderson isn't top 3 p4p, but have torres on the list

[HHJ]

I agree

[Gedanke]

i don't hate torres but i think it's hypocritical to say anderson isn't top 3 p4p, but have torres on the list

Torres doesn't have several noted, decisive losses to fighters he should have arguably beaten.

[HHJ]

Anderson is still a can though

[shadyasfok]

someone get gedanke out of this thread before i hack into his dead father's computer and steal his will

[Ryno]

i don't hate torres but i think it's hypocritical to say anderson isn't top 3 p4p, but have torres on the list
How exactly is that hypocritical?

[Gedanke]

Oooh, more dead daddy cracks. Go get trolled and have another breakdown, you 'tard.

[shadyasfok]

Torres is pretty dominant.

anderson's more dominant. torres had great but competitive fights with mizugaki and maeda. anderson didn't finish cote or leites but he dominated every round

[Gedanke]

Solid, when did you become such a massive Silva testicle barnacle?

[shadyasfok]

Solid, when did you become such a massive Silva testicle barnacle?

when i started watching mma

[Ryno]

You cant compare 2 fights in a p4p discussion. You have to compare careers IMO.

[shadyasfok]

You cant compare 2 fights in a p4p discussion. You have to compare careers IMO.

who has torres beaten that's so good?

[Elk Penis]

1. Anderson Silva
2. Fedor
3. Miguel Torres

(GSP is 4th)

[HHJ]

Its ok to nuthug a fighter.

[HHJ]

Gsp cleaned out the div. Better than anderson to me, facing stronger competition

[Gedanke]

Its ok to nuthug a fighter.

Nothing wrong with being an avid fan of a fighter, but one shouldn't let it cloud objective judgment. Of course, most "nuthuggers" don't seem to understand the concept of objectivity.

[Ryno]

He has beaten all the top fighters in his division and has a 37-1 record. Since Anderson is, in your opinion, the best in the world, my question for you is who has Anderson lost to? They must be Gods to beat the best fighter in the world right?

[AMERICAN BONES]

torres ahead of anderson?

what the flying fuck

With the exception of his past 2 fights, Anderson has looked spectacular in the UFC. Torres has looked spectacular his whole career.


You cant compare 2 fights in a p4p discussion. You have to compare careers IMO.

:headscratch:

[Ryno]

:headscratch:
I wasnt comparing Andersons last 2 fights to Torres'. I was making the point that while Anderson has looked good in his UFC career, Torres has always looked good.

[snipe]

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[JihadMeAtHello]

Ryan McGuire
Peter Giz
Luke Stowell

[snipe]

/thread

[Elk Penis]

Gsp cleaned out the div. Better than anderson to me, facing stronger competition

His loss to Serra ain't that many fights away, so he's still climbing the p4p ladder up IMHO. Also, p4p is not just how you clean out your division but it's how well you can jump up or down in weight and still succeed (or would theoretically). Fedor could cut to 205 and wipe out everyone. He could also stay the same and wipe out everybody at super-heavyweight. Anderson has fought at 170, but probably couldn't get back there, but he could do a 177-180 catch weight and dominate. Anderson has gone up to 205 and been successful.

IMHO if GSP moved up to 185 to test the waters, he would get in some real trouble. He'd have huge trouble with contenders like Marquardt or Okami. He'd get smoked vs Silva, Hendo, or Franklin. He'd probably lose a decision to Lindland.

Fedor doesn't have any competition at heavyweight or in the weight class above him (super-heavyweight) or below him, except for Lesnar. It's a given he'd destroy everybody else.

Silva can easily destroy everybody at 185 and 205. The only close fight at 205 is Machida, and IMHO Anderson is tailor made to beat him (too bad they'll never fight).

Torres is just a tad above GSP in my p4p rankings, because I think he could go up to 145 and beat Brown, Aldo, or Faber. If GSP hadn't had two losses not to long ago at the weight class he's supposed to dominate, then he'd edge out Torres.

[HHJ]

But how good are the guys torres has beaten? Ive never been overly impressed.

[Boxhead]

I see nothing wrong with your rankings glad you gave lyoto some respect

[Gedanke]

As far as St. Pierre's loss to Serra, it's one that he's "avenged." In the case of Silva, he hasn't fought Takase or Chonan again. I'm sure virtually everyone would say that he would beat them if he fought either again, but that *is* just conjecture until it's actually proven.

Agreed on the point of Fedor, but people always seem to neglect to take into account that heavyweight is virtually always a shallower division than lower weight classes.

Edit: Meant to quote RFD's post.

[Ryno]

Its not a very popular weight class, so there aren't any huge names. That doesn't mean that his opponents aren't top level competition.

*regarding Torres*

[HHJ]

Its way too late to avenge those losses. Their both basically cans now

[Frady Gluv]

frady
jasen
hellrazor

[HHJ]

As far as St. Pierre's loss to Serra, it's one that he's "avenged." In the case of Silva, he hasn't fought Takase or Chonan again. I'm sure virtually everyone would say that he would beat them if he fought either again, but that *is* just conjecture until it's actually proven.

Agreed on the point of Fedor, but people always seem to neglect to take into account that heavyweight is virtually always a shallower division than lower weight classes.

Edit: Meant to quote RFD's post.

Maybe but guys like couture and nog and fedor had to overcome enormous weight disadvantages and i think this is something only hws have to put up with

[Boxhead]

His loss to Serra ain't that many fights away, so he's still climbing the p4p ladder up IMHO. Also, p4p is not just how you clean out your division but it's how well you can jump up or down in weight and still succeed (or would theoretically). Fedor could cut to 205 and wipe out everyone. He could also stay the same and wipe out everybody at super-heavyweight. Anderson has fought at 170, but probably couldn't get back there, but he could do a 177-180 catch weight and dominate. Anderson has gone up to 205 and been successful.

IMHO if GSP moved up to 185 to test the waters, he would get in some real trouble. He'd have huge trouble with contenders like Marquardt or Okami. He'd get smoked vs Silva, Hendo, or Franklin. He'd probably lose a decision to Lindland.

Fedor doesn't have any competition at heavyweight or in the weight class above him (super-heavyweight) or below him, except for Lesnar. It's a given he'd destroy everybody else.

Silva can easily destroy everybody at 185 and 205. The only close fight at 205 is Machida, and IMHO Anderson is tailor made to beat him (too bad they'll never fight).

Torres is just a tad above GSP in my p4p rankings, because I think he could go up to 145 and beat Brown, Aldo, or Faber. If GSP hadn't had two losses not to long ago at the weight class he's supposed to dominate, then he'd edge out Torres.
fedor vs lyoto is my dream match

[Gedanke]

Its way too late to avenge those losses. Their both basically cans now

At this point, sure. They happened in 2003 and 2004, though, which means there's been plenty of time to have a rematch. Whether that occurs (which won't, I'm sure), doesn't change that Anderson has outstanding - no, I don't mean spectacular, I mean in the sense that they've never been rectified by a rematch - to two fighters in his career.

[HHJ]

Mine too, what strategy would fedor use to deal with machida who may be the next fedor

[HHJ]

In terms of cunning and pwnership

[Gedanke]

Maybe but guys like couture and nog and fedor had to overcome enormous weight disadvantages and i think this is something only hws have to put up with

People always say that, but consider that the weight disparities at heavyweight count for a much lower percentage than they would at the lower weights, 135, 145, 155, etc. Also, consider that fighters cut weight to make those lower weights, whereas weight cutting is much rarer at heavyweight. Fights with large weight discrepancies still do occur from 205 and down.

[HHJ]

I know that it counts for less but weight is still a big factor in the hw game, especially now that there are some skilled super heavies making 265. Guys who have trouble making 205 are going through more adversity than guy in other weight classes have to take into consideration

[HHJ]

Btw can we move the machida fight to tommorow so i can see him make a bufoon out of shogun with his super karate powers.

[Ryno]

Machida is going to be making people look foolish for a long time.

[HHJ]

He makes bufoons out of idiots that dont like him too

[Ryno]

Machida is glorious.

[HHJ]

Im aroused just thinking about the next fight

[Elk Penis]

fedor vs lyoto is my dream match

I think Machida would win early, but Fedor would figure out a way to win and end up with a KO in the 2nd or 3rd. It's a good fight if you force Fedor to cut weight. I don't think Machida would do very good moving up, because putting on weight would slow him down, and he'd be very small heavyweight.

Also, somebody mentioned earlier about heavyweights not being as stacked. That's why I got Anderson just above Fedor. Also, because until recently Fedor was fighting a string of cans or underweight opponents - Zuluzhino, Coleman, Hunt, Lindland, and Hong Man Choi were Fedor's opponents between Crocop in 2005 and Sylvia in 2008. That's 3 years worth of crappy opponents, and then he fights once last year and once this year. That's only two quality opponents in almost 5 years.

[Saska]

Fedor
GSP
Anderson

[Boxhead]

if we go by how active a fighter has been fedor wouldn't be in the top 3

[Kimo Therabones]

mayweather
pacman
marquez

[shadyasfok]

I wasnt comparing Andersons last 2 fights to Torres'. I was making the point that while Anderson has looked good in his UFC career, Torres has always looked good.

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT

[shadyasfok]

i wouldn't be all that surprised if bowles beat torres

QFT

[HHJ]

Saf picked that one through slant eyed luck

[shadyasfok]

Saf picked that one through slant eyed luck

not really, i knew torres suffered from the same flaws as faber. he was extremely reckless and it was only a matter of time till someone took advantage of that

brian bowles is the new mike brown, they train at the same camp too

[HHJ]

Mike brown is cooler than that bowl cut hipster faggot brian bowles

[shadyasfok]

anyway....they have the perfect style to beat guys like faber and torres.

patient wrestler with heavy hands

[HHJ]

Hipster fag

[Jimbo]

Anderson
GSP
Fedor/Machida/Penn

[Bones of Satan]

gsp
anderson
afraidor

[shadyasfok]

Anderson
GSP
Fedor/Machida/Penn

yes

[shadyasfok]

gsp
anderson
afraidor

after ufc 101, anderson>gsp p4p

[babyboneswordsman]

Fedor
Lesnar
Mir

[babyboneswordsman]

after ufc 101, anderson>gsp p4p

lol just lol

[shadyasfok]

Fedor
Lesnar
Mir

lol

[Bones of Satan]

wanna take any guesses what they are today?

i say 1. andy 2. lesner 3. bj

[HOODS]

damn it just keeps getting worse for fredoasfok.

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EOS
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[shadyasfok]

Mante

[PA-PA-PA-PIMPOMATIC]

Top P4P
BJ
Fedor
GSP
Anderson

[HendoStu]

http://www.turkishforums.net/TCM/showthread.php?t=12093&highlight=prospect

In less than three months Machida went from being one the most overrated "prospects" to top 3 p4p in Solid's eyes

[SatNav]

^^ well of course.

Machida got some KO's and beat Rashad, how can he not jump on him nuts?

[HendoStu]

^^ well of course.

Machida got some KO's and beat Rashad, how can he not jump on him nuts?

All it took was one fight with Rashad, who solid thinks sucks.

rashad sucks

How does one fight with a fighter that "sucks" jump one from overrated prospect to top 3 p4p in the eyes of solidasfok

[shadyasfok]

1. anderson
2. gsp
3. bj

[Mr. Glitterfarts]

1: Ross Clifton
2: David Matua
3: Scott Ferrozzo

[Saska]

Fedor
Anderson
GSP

[Scorpipede]

Anderson

GSPizzle

BJ
















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