View Full Version : pacman vs. mayweather in negotiations for may 2010
WAR OSCAR YEE
11-24-2009, 08:07 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxingandmma/6645236/Manny-Pacquiao-v-Floyd-Mayweather-negotiations-begin-for-May-2010-superfight.html
Elk Penis
11-24-2009, 08:30 PM
Good. That fight has to happen.
flashNsmash
11-24-2009, 08:44 PM
I need more time to save up $10,000 for a seat.
AMERICAN BONES
11-24-2009, 08:48 PM
I need more time to save up $10,000 for a seat.
Fuck that, I'm booking a room for the weekend they plan on having it tonight though
flashNsmash
11-24-2009, 08:51 PM
Yeah, would still be a massive party.
i hope pacman gets 50%. this fight wouldn't be jack shit without him.
super hot
11-24-2009, 09:09 PM
Mayweather isn't a big draw at all. Pacman has way more drawing power than him. He should at the very least receive 50%
WAR OSCAR YEE
11-24-2009, 09:13 PM
Mayweather isn't a big draw at all. Pacman has way more drawing power than him. He should at the very least receive 50%
obvious troll is obvious
super hot
11-24-2009, 10:44 PM
obvious troll is obvious
I'm not even trolling. The only reason Mayweather had over a million ppv's vs Marquez was because of the mexican fans that ordered the fight. Everyone knows black people are to cheap to order that shit.
AMERICAN BONES
11-24-2009, 10:44 PM
Mayweather isn't a big draw at all. Pacman has way more drawing power than him. He should at the very least receive 50%
mayweather outdrew pacquiao in fights with common opponents, so thats that
WAR OSCAR YEE
11-24-2009, 10:45 PM
I'm not even trolling. The only reason Mayweather had over a million ppv's vs Marquez was because of the mexican fans that ordered the fight. Everyone knows black people are to cheap to order that shit.
lol
WAR OSCAR YEE
11-24-2009, 10:46 PM
mayweather by decision
super hot
11-24-2009, 10:48 PM
mayweather outdrew pacquiao in fights with common opponents, so thats that
De La Hoya vs Pacman had more buys
super hot
11-24-2009, 10:48 PM
Pacman 10th round tko
AMERICAN BONES
11-24-2009, 10:52 PM
De La Hoya vs Pacman had more buys
lol mayweather sold a million more bud, why do mexicans root for pacquiao anyway, hes the mexicutioner
WAR OSCAR YEE
11-24-2009, 10:53 PM
lol, mexicutioner, i like that
super hot
11-24-2009, 10:55 PM
why do white people like mayweather? he's fucking boring and can't finish off fighters half his size.
super hot
11-24-2009, 10:56 PM
who actually enjoys seeing him fight all defensive? He has no power and runs pretty much the entire fight.
are you nuts? white people hardly like boxing, much less gayweather.
gayweather has certainly been able to create a niche as a guy who gets into big selling fights, but it always relies an ultra popular opponent. hatton, ODLH, and marquez are his 3 big fights and all three of those guys have huge fanbases. i think gayweather helps sell it too, but only because he's undefeated over a long career. if you put one loss on his record, he's no longer jack shit as a co-draw.
WAR OSCAR YEE
11-24-2009, 11:50 PM
you guys have been gotten to by mayweather
i'm not really in the hater camp. i just don't get excited about him and that's how most people feel.
AMERICAN BONES
11-25-2009, 01:36 AM
why do white people like mayweather? he's fucking boring and can't finish off fighters half his size.
most people hate mayweather, hes made himself into such a villain most people tune in to watch him lose, or hope he will lose
P 2 Tha Mofo J
11-25-2009, 01:37 AM
mayweather outdrew pacquiao in fights with common opponents, so thats that
yeah but it was really all oscar prior to the mayweather fight, when he was going to fight pac-man again he was coming off a loss so obviously he wasn't going to sell as many ppvs. Cott-pacman also outsold floyd-jmm
AMERICAN BONES
11-25-2009, 01:44 AM
yeah but it was really all oscar prior to the mayweather fight, when he was going to fight pac-man again he was coming off a loss so obviously he wasn't going to sell as many ppvs. Cott-pacman also outsold floyd-jmm
floyd jmm was a tune up, cotto pac was for a world title, and oscar wasnt coming off a loss when he fought manny, but i think the fight should be 50-50, but i think floyd has a better case for taking a majority share than manny does
how much did pac-cotto sell? i heard it was a disappointment, but fuck it was on HBO.
oh wait just looked it up- pac-cotto, which was on HBO, got TWICE as many ppv buys- generating $120million. the gayweather-marquez fight 1 million buys, generating $52million.
lol pacman's fight over doubles the money made on a fight shown on hbo, and doubles the buy rate. pac should be getting 60-40 at least. the only real bargaining power gayweather's camp has is his willingness to run off into another retirement.
AMERICAN BONES
11-25-2009, 02:24 AM
oh wait just looked it up- pac-cotto, which was on HBO, got TWICE as many ppv buys- generating $120million. the gayweather-marquez fight 1 million buys, generating $52million.
lol pacman's fight over doubles the money made on a fight shown on hbo, and doubles the buy rate. pac should be getting 60-40 at least. the only real bargaining power gayweather's camp has is his willingness to run off into another retirement.
:headscratch:
they were both on PPV, onr was a tune up fight, one was a world title fight, one generated 52mil in ppv revenue, the other 70mil, 1.05mil buys to 1.25mil
saying anybody deserves 40-60 is ludicrous
AMERICAN BONES
11-25-2009, 02:47 AM
wow some people in vegas want to build a 30,000 seat outdoor stadium for the fight, and are projecting 5mil ppv buys
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-floydmanny112409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
:headscratch:
they were both on PPV, onr was a tune up fight, one was a world title fight, one generated 52mil in ppv revenue, the other 70mil, 1.05mil buys to 1.25mil
saying anybody deserves 40-60 is ludicrouseh you're right, that website i saw must have been showing total views or something. still think pac's a bigger draw though.
AMERICAN BONES
11-25-2009, 06:11 AM
i just booked three nights at the excalibur the weekend the fight is supposed to be, figure it will be at the mgm or mandalay bay, excalibur is the cheapest and right in between the two, if the fight is scheduled for another date i can cancel my res and get my deposit back
WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-25-2009, 07:11 AM
this fight needs to happen if it does I'm ordering it
super hot
11-25-2009, 12:54 PM
Stay at the Monte Carlo, AB. It's nicer and not that much more. I always stay there because one of the pit bosses always hooks me up to the clubs.
AMERICAN BONES
11-25-2009, 04:04 PM
Ya? I'll check it out, ex was the second cheapest on the strip besides circus circus, but ex is right next to mandaly and mgm
WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-25-2009, 04:06 PM
lol circus circus what a shithole
super hot
11-25-2009, 04:12 PM
circus circus sucks.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 01:52 AM
deal is done for march 13th, possibly may 1st in either vegas, dallas or new orleans, arum is flying to the Philippines right now to make sure manny agrees and get him to sign, so the ball is in his court. i have a feeling pacquiao and roach dont want the fight to happen, after the cotto fight roach said march is too soon he needs more time to prepare for mayweather, so they said may 1st would be ideal, but then manny said he wants to run for congress in the Philippines and the election is in may so that wouldnt work, i just hope this shit gets done, seems like floyd is willing to fight anywhere at anytime, now its up to manny to show up
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4705330
The proposed super fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather is getting closer.
Mayweather agreed to terms for the welterweight title bout on Tuesday, multiple sources with knowledge of the negotiations told ESPN.com.
The proposed date is March 13, although there is a chance it could move to May 1, sources said. Mayweather, according to a source close to him, is OK with either date.
Pacquiao and Mayweather have fought recent bouts at catch weights. However if they complete their deal, the bout would be contested at 147 pounds, the maximum for a welterweight fight, a source said.
Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs), was flying to the Philippines on Tuesday night to meet with Pacquiao and try to close his side of the deal.
Arum spent much of Tuesday getting open issues resolved in his negotiations with Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who represents Mayweather, sources said. Once Arum was able to do that, he left for the Philippines and is expected back on Monday.
If the HBO PPV fight happens on March 13, it would force the tentative HBO PPV fight between light heavyweights Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins to move to another date. Hopkins and Jones both fight Wednesday and must win for their fight to go through.
The site for Pacquiao-Mayweather remains up in the air. There is interest from Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to bring the fight to his new stadium. There is also interest from venues in Las Vegas, including the MGM Grand (which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather fights), and the Superdome in New Orleans in hosting a fight many believe will break the all-time record for pay-per-view buys, which is the 2.44 million units sold for Mayweather's 2007 split decision victory against Oscar De La Hoya.
The fight moved front and center with heavy public demand for it following Pacquiao's dominant 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto to win a welterweight title on Nov. 14. The victory gave Pacquiao a title in a record-breaking seventh weight division and 1.25 million pay-per-view units.
Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs), who has won titles in five divisions, came out of a brief retirement in September to dominate Juan Manuel Marquez in a fight that generated 1.05 million buys.
Just a few days after Pacquiao's win over Cotto, Arum and Schaefer began negotiations.
One wrench in the talks was the date. Arum, Schaefer and HBO wanted to slot the fight on May 1. However, Pacquiao announced his candidacy for a congressional seat in the Philippines on Tuesday. With the election scheduled for May 10, it rules out a May 1 fight unless Pacquiao runs unopposed. Pacquiao lost the election for a congressional seat in 2007.
If Pacquiao-Mayweather isn't finalized, Arum has talked about matching Pacquiao with junior middleweight titlist Yuri Foreman, which would give Pacquiao an opportunity to win a title in an eighth division. Foreman defeated Daniel Santos to win a 154-pound belt on the Pacquiao-Cotto undercard.
Schaefer has talked about bringing Mayweather to England to match him with Matthew Hatton in the event Pacquiao-Mayweather isn't made. Hatton is the brother of Ricky Hatton, the former junior welterweight and welterweight titlist whom Mayweather knocked out in 2007.
super hot
12-02-2009, 03:32 AM
pac man
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 03:43 AM
pacman will get worked, he really has no advantage coming into the fight outside of power and aggression, floyd has the longer reach, quicker hands, more accurate punches, better defense, and is the best counter puncher of our era, pacman struggled with jmms countering, floyd is gonna tear him up
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-02-2009, 08:31 AM
good i hope floyd works that pinoy faggot
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-02-2009, 08:32 AM
and then loses all his money to the IRS
WAR OSCAR YEE
12-02-2009, 11:07 AM
money may by decision
Bones of Satan
12-02-2009, 01:45 PM
pacman vs pbf is on. Fight of the century imo.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AotZSbueJwgp7.96PhEO4x.UxLYF?slug=ki-floydpac120109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
The much-anticipated bout between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao is all but set for March 13, a source told Yahoo! Sports.
Mayweather has agreed to terms and promoter Bob Arum is making a trip to Manila, Philippines, to finalize a deal with Pacquiao, the source said.
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Las Vegas, Dallas and New Orleans are the front-runners to host the bout, which is expected to become the highest-grossing boxing match in the sport’s history.
Pacquiao is the top pound-for-pound fighter in nearly every major ranking, including Yahoo! Sports. Mayweather is No. 2 in most rankings and was No. 1 in nearly all of the polls before he briefly retired in June 2008.
Pacquiao is coming off a 12th-round stoppage of Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, a bout in which he won the World Boxing Organization welterweight championship and erased fears that he is not a legitimate welterweight.
Cotto was a legitimate welterweight in his prime and Pacquiao dominated, knocking him down twice and cruising to the one-sided victory.
Mayweather routed Juan Manuel Marquez, who had previously been ranked No. 2 in the Yahoo! Sports poll, in a Sept. 19 fight at the MGM Grand.
The public demand for the fight has been enormous, putting pressure on Arum and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who represents Mayweather, to get a deal done.
Promoters had targeted May 1 for the fight almost from the moment that Pacquiao stopped Cotto. But Pacquiao filed Tuesday to run for Congress in the Philippines and the election will be held on May 10.
Given that, the bout with Mayweather had to be moved up to March 13 or pushed back until September.
Though there were reports that Arum was considering matching Pacquiao with new WBO super welterweight champion Yuri Foreman on March 13 in Dallas, that was a diversionary move and was never serious, the source said.
A survey team from Top Rank will inspect Dallas Cowboys Stadium as a possible venue. The MGM Grand Garden Arena and the New Orleans Superdome are also in the running to host the mega-fight, the source said.
It won't come close to outselling PBF/DLH
stulecanem
12-02-2009, 01:47 PM
Didn't mante already make this thread?
ArtardFiesta
12-02-2009, 01:48 PM
Didn't mante already make this thread?
I believe its in the mainstream sports section
HOODS
12-02-2009, 01:48 PM
this was already posted in the sports section.
And the article is misleading, nothing is signed its not even news.
got ll worked up and its not even teh finalized
andy wang breaking his nose is bigger news imo
Bones of Satan
12-02-2009, 01:50 PM
no one goes to the sports section, it's relevent to mma as dana has said he will compete against this card
stulecanem
12-02-2009, 01:50 PM
I believe its in the mainstream sports section
Yes I think so, STOP shitter time
they will never beat this card
NorcalItalian89
12-02-2009, 01:50 PM
:umlolpeanut:
ArtardFiesta
12-02-2009, 01:50 PM
:no:
pacman by MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
vincent_vega
12-02-2009, 01:51 PM
Mayweather by dec.
Bones of Satan
12-02-2009, 01:51 PM
how much is each fighter set to make?
is it 20+ million each?
its funny cuz that prolly makes up or surpasses the combined salaries of every ufc fighter in 2009
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ArtardFiesta
12-02-2009, 01:53 PM
20 mil isn't a bad payday
Bones of Satan
12-02-2009, 01:54 PM
pbf will be broke in 2 months though
he'll buy a training centre made of platinum and never use it
stulecanem
12-02-2009, 01:55 PM
much better
super hot
12-02-2009, 02:01 PM
pac man by murder
Cum Gargling Shit Splattered Fuck Mess
12-02-2009, 02:51 PM
for awhile i thought pacquiao would wreck PBF but after seeing PBF hand marquez his shit with little effort i'm not so sure anymore. first boxing match i've had a hardon for though in years.
super hot
12-02-2009, 02:53 PM
PBF couldn't even put away a very smaller fighter. Pacman just packed Cotto's shit in. It's not that hard to realize that Pacman will do the same to gayweather.
Cum Gargling Shit Splattered Fuck Mess
12-02-2009, 03:01 PM
if we're using that math then look at what the 2 did against marquez. trust me, i fucking hate PBF, but manny went to a draw and a razor split decision (he shoulda lost) to marquez. PBF made marquez look like a kid with downs.
super hot
12-02-2009, 03:04 PM
if we're using that math then look at what the 2 did against marquez. trust me, i fucking hate PBF, but manny went to a draw and a razor split decision (he shoulda lost) to marquez. PBF made marquez look like a kid with downs.
Look at what weight they fought at. Bother were around 130lbs. Marquez had to move up 15lbs only to still be around 10 to 15lbs smaller than PBF at fight time.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 03:50 PM
20 mil isn't a bad payday
it will be more than that, this fight is gonna KILL the numbers that pbf vs dlh did
super hot
12-02-2009, 03:54 PM
DLH vs any can would have sold 2 million ppv's AB
HOODS
12-02-2009, 03:55 PM
i beginning to think this fight will never happen for a multitude of reasons.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 03:57 PM
i beginning to think this fight will never happen for a multitude of reasons.
its possible, pacquiao is known to fuck around and make negotiations real tough, and hes who they are waiting on.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 04:02 PM
DLH vs any can would have sold 2 million ppv's AB
cmon now, DLH combined with 24/7 and floyd running his mouth made that fight as big as it was, DLH fought plenty of non cans that didnt come close to the 2.4mil him and floyd did
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 04:03 PM
this fight would be better suited for may 1st, the more time to promote and build it up the better, but manny is a faggot that wants to run for congress
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 04:03 PM
i hope after floyd beats manny, roger mayweather KOs freddie roach
Cum Gargling Shit Splattered Fuck Mess
12-02-2009, 04:04 PM
if manny loses, i'll be sad. then we'll never hear the end of PBF's shit talking ever because he'll probably retire again undefeated.
HOODS
12-02-2009, 04:05 PM
its possible, pacquiao is known to fuck around and make negotiations real tough, and hes who they are waiting on.
im sure its pbf's camp who says its is pacmans court to sign but who knows what the truth is. Both of them have a lot to lose with this fight and might prolong it fight some scrubs in the mean time so their careers and big paydays last a bit longer.
But then again, if they do somehow agree to fight, then its just common knowledge it will be a controversial decision and will have to lead to a re-match, which gives them both another big payday, and blah blah its so scripted boxing is almost like the wwe at this point.
super hot
12-02-2009, 04:07 PM
this fight would be better suited for may 1st, the more time to promote and build it up the better, but manny is a faggot that wants to run for congress
lol, this coming from the dude that delayed fighting jmm to get additional training. you're fucking stupid.
super hot
12-02-2009, 04:09 PM
i hope after floyd beats manny, roger mayweather KOs freddie roach
I wish JCC would come back and destroy that can. Roger fucking sucked.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 04:11 PM
I wish JCC would come back and destroy that can. Roger fucking sucked.
lol the mexican assassin, he is funny as hell though
super hot
12-02-2009, 04:11 PM
its possible, pacquiao is known to fuck around and make negotiations real tough, and hes who they are waiting on.
Have they even agreed to the money payouts yet? Pacquiao shouldn't accept anything less than 50/50
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Have they even agreed to the money payouts yet? Pacquiao shouldn't accept anything less than 50/50
i dont think anyone really knows, it seems arum did all negotiating for pac, and is now going out there to verify its all ok
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 08:31 PM
manny is ducking mayweather, no doubt about it hes scared shitless
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23862
While everyone has jumped on the Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao wagon, Manny's attorney, Franklin Gacal, told The Philippine Star that it won't happen until the mid or late point of 2010. Gacal spoke to Pacquiao last night, and as of last night, Pacquiao has no plans to fight until after the May elections. Earlier this week, Pacquiao announced that he was running for a congressional seat in the Philippines.
Based on Manny's political decision, Top Rank's Bob Arum said Mayweather would have to fight Pacquiao on March 13 instead of the proposed May 1 date. Mayweather agreed on Tuesday to fight Pacquiao in March. Arum left for Manila on Tuesday night. He plans to to sit down with Pacquiao to discuss the Mayweather fight. Gacal says Arum's trip was already planned because he was flying in to finalize a deal with TV network ABS-CBN.
“As of last night, Manny said he doesn’t want to fight in April or even May. There will be no fight. Maybe it will come after the elections,” said Gacal. “Everything will depend on the developments after the elections. But again, as of last night, the March 13 and May 1 dates for Pacquiao’s next fight are out."
Everything could change once Arum sits down with Pacquiao and shows him the numbers for what is considered to be the richest fight in boxing.
super hot
12-02-2009, 08:34 PM
He has more important priorities than PBF, Floyd is just anxious to get back in the ring to keep the IRS off of his back. What's wrong with a man trying to help his country? Maybe Floyd should learn a thing or two from Manny instead of making it rain.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 08:40 PM
He has more important priorities than PBF, Floyd is just anxious to get back in the ring to keep the IRS off of his back. What's wrong with a man trying to help his country? Maybe Floyd should learn a thing or two from Manny instead of making it rain.
mannys country doesnt want him to run, he ran in 2007 and it was a joke, his own people booed him at events and he lost in a fucking landslide, his people said he wont fight may 1st because of the election, so the fight has to be on march 13th and if floyd doesnt want it they will go fight yuri foreman for mannys 8th title, well floyd called their bluff and now they are backtracking again, manny DUCKMAN pacquiao wants nothing to do with floyd
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
you wanna be a politician duckman do it after boxing, you cant do both you faggot
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-02-2009, 08:45 PM
im on AB's side on this. pac-man is a faggot
INS_tha_rebel
12-02-2009, 08:47 PM
When I see this shit I'm glad MMA doesn't follow the same model.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 08:50 PM
When I see this shit I'm glad MMA doesn't follow the same model.
when i see fedor fighting my mechanic i wish they used the same model, ya dig
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-02-2009, 08:55 PM
thats shitty logic fedor is one fighter out of many though. who gives a shit about him honestly
RyanMCGTX24
12-02-2009, 08:58 PM
Reading about pacquio ducking this fight makes me want PBF to win.
super hot
12-02-2009, 08:59 PM
AB is just jumping to conclusions, why would pacman be scared of that faggot anyways. He's faced tougher opponents IMO already.
super hot
12-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Manny hasn't ducked shit, this is all part of the negotiations.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:01 PM
thats shitty logic fedor is one fighter out of many though. who gives a shit about him honestly
just saying, they all have their flaws
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-02-2009, 09:03 PM
yeah just admit you got fucking pwned on that one, and mante you are sounding fucknig retarded in this thread. floyd has pretty much proven with the jmm fight that he is basiclaly untouchable, give the man his due already
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:03 PM
AB is just jumping to conclusions, why would pacman be scared of that faggot anyways. He's faced tougher opponents IMO already.
bullshit, manny cherry picks his opponents as much as anybody, freddie roach has even admitted it, manny has always stayed away from technical counter punchers, he learned his lessons from morales and JMM, now he sticks to weight draining flat footed brawlers with no defense
flashNsmash
12-02-2009, 09:08 PM
agreed, the Filipino populace will vote against him in droves if they think him winning will delay him fighting again
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:12 PM
agreed, the Filipino populace will vote against him in droves if they think him winning will delay him fighting again
thats exactly what happened last time, he would show to boxing events and people would boo him during his campaign and hes their national hero, its a joke the guy is an idiot
INS_tha_rebel
12-02-2009, 09:20 PM
when i see fedor fighting my mechanic i wish they used the same model, ya dig
Most of the top guys in MMA are all under one roof and they all fight each other.
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-02-2009, 09:22 PM
pwned again AB
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Most of the top guys in MMA are all under one roof and they all fight each other.
ya most, not all, and they get paid shit and have no say in their own career, both systems suck imo, there is no perfect system, guys will always duck guys, and top fighters will always be in different orgs
super hot
12-02-2009, 09:25 PM
thats exactly what happened last time, he would show to boxing events and people would boo him during his campaign and hes their national hero, its a joke the guy is an idiot
lol, PBF has made himself look like a fool on many more occasions than pacman. How's that investigation going in Las Vegas? Did they make any arrests? Why does PBF have bullet proof vests and guns for? Is he some sort of thug?
PBF is only in a rush because the IRS is about to take his home away. I don't even know how many people have already put a lien against his property already.
INS_tha_rebel
12-02-2009, 09:31 PM
ya most, not all, and they get paid shit and have no say in their own career, both systems suck imo, there is no perfect system, guys will always duck guys, and top fighters will always be in different orgs
I'm just talking from a fan's perspective.
There are millions of boxers around the world and very few of them make decent cash. I know a guy who won a gold medal in the Commonwealth Games and he got around 5 grand a fight. Bear in mind he was training for a few months before the fight and not getting paid.
Fact is most boxers AND mixed martial artists are on shit money.
I agree that both systems have flaws, but the MMA model is better from a fan's perspective imo.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:39 PM
lol, PBF has made himself look like a fool on many more occasions than pacman. How's that investigation going in Las Vegas? Did they make any arrests? Why does PBF have bullet proof vests and guns for? Is he some sort of thug?
PBF is only in a rush because the IRS is about to take his home away. I don't even know how many people have already put a lien against his property already.
floyd was not involved with that incident and was never a person of interest, you gave any udea how many americans own guns? lol they were all legally bought and registered, and he caught up with the irs after he tooled your boy JMM. pacquiao and his whole team have always been douches and they dick people around every negotiation
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:39 PM
I'm just talking from a fan's perspective.
There are millions of boxers around the world and very few of them make decent cash. I know a guy who won a gold medal in the Commonwealth Games and he got around 5 grand a fight. Bear in mind he was training for a few months before the fight and not getting paid.
Fact is most boxers AND mixed martial artists are on shit money.
I agree that both systems have flaws, but the MMA model is better from a fan's perspective imo.
ya your prolly right
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:41 PM
duckman is scared, bottom line, he would rather disgrace himself in front of his entire country for the SECOND time than get in the ring with floyd
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:43 PM
duckman is supposed to be this warrior, no fear he will get in the ring with anyone, but he would rather lose another pointless election than make 40mil and fight floyd to determine the best fighter of our era
super hot
12-02-2009, 09:43 PM
floyd was not involved with that incident and was never a person of interest, you gave any udea how many americans own guns? lol they were all legally bought and registered, and he caught up with the irs after he tooled your boy JMM. pacquiao and his whole team have always been douches and they dick people around every negotiation
He always had issues with the IRS that's why he always has to come out of retirement. That and being a dumbass and spending money like all the other uneducated nigras.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 09:47 PM
He always had issues with the IRS that's why he always has to come out of retirement. That and being a dumbass and spending money like all the other uneducated nigras.
ok, and now manny is ducking him
super hot
12-02-2009, 09:53 PM
Wait until you get all the details. Nothing has been finalized yet and everything is just preliminary.
super hot
12-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Arum is expected back on Monday. Just wait and we'll see if this shit is going down or not.
RyanMCGTX24
12-02-2009, 10:24 PM
I think they'll make the fight.
AMERICAN BONES
12-02-2009, 11:47 PM
pacquiao has his campaign slogan ready
http://i45.tinypic.com/11ilevb.jpg
RyanMCGTX24
12-03-2009, 11:00 PM
ITSSSS OFFICIAL
http://www.ringsidereport.com/rsr/ne...?readmore=2423
Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather JR Agree to Fight in March 2010
By Geno McGahee-December 4, 2009
RSR got word from a reliable source that the super bout that the world is demanding will take place in March of 2010. The teams are currently working out the specifics but have tentatively agreed to a showdown early next year, which shouldn’t be a surprise to any boxing fan.
stulecanem
12-03-2009, 11:05 PM
Thanks
flashNsmash
12-03-2009, 11:17 PM
I haven't paid good money to watch boxing in years, this could change that.
Only Mexicans can fight this two and beat them, like Castillo did to Floyd and Morales did to Pacman, not to mention Marquez taking Pacman to a draw and lossing a freaking close desition.
super hot
12-04-2009, 12:36 AM
TALK SHIT NOW, AB
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-04-2009, 01:11 AM
Only Mexicans can fight this two and beat them, like Castillo did to Floyd and Morales did to Pacman, not to mention Marquez taking Pacman to a draw and lossing a freaking close desition.
dont kid yourself im about as big of a mexican boxing fan as they come, but no mexican can touch these two dudes right now
Marquez can still bring it to Pac and you know it, he gave Pac hell in both of their fights look how bad Cotto and Hatton looked vs Pac, that is how good Marquez is.
There will be some top quality Mexi boxers comming on next year just wait.
AMERICAN BONES
12-04-2009, 02:15 AM
TALK SHIT NOW, AB
i hope its true, but there isnt an official source, arum was calling manny out earlier today saying there is no reason not to fight march 13th, Arum said "you can make an argument that because he is running for office Manny can’t fight on May 1st but you can’t logically with a straight face make an argument for March 13." i just hope they get this shit done, i wanna go to vegas
AMERICAN BONES
12-04-2009, 10:52 AM
now its legit, thank god!
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23907
super hot
12-04-2009, 01:14 PM
manny by murder
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-04-2009, 08:56 PM
no way. floyd by decision
INS_tha_rebel
12-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Pretty Boy will put on a defensive master-class and take the little chinaman to school.
AMERICAN BONES
12-12-2009, 11:53 AM
deal still aint done yet, still no official signings and still no venue, the venue is what is holding it up at this moment, still cant wait for floyd to put on a clinic
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WAR OSCAR YEE
12-22-2009, 11:48 PM
oh no
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-boximpasse122209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Negotiations are at an impasse over Pacquiao’s failure to agree to random Olympic-style drug testing, said Leonard Ellerbe, the CEO of Mayweather Promotions, on Tuesday.
Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said his fighter is willing to comply with strict drug-testing standards, but Roach won’t allow Pacquiao to have blood drawn 48 hours before the fight.
Ellerbe said he would not let Mayweather enter the ring unless Pacquiao agreed to it.
Both sides agreed that the drug testing issue is the only hurdle preventing the fight from being finished. Earlier Tuesday, Golden Boy Promotions officially requested March 13 from the Nevada State Athletic Commission to host the show.
"As Floyd’s management, we are insistent that there be a level playing field," Ellerbe said. "This is in the best interests of the fighters, the fans and the sport. If you want a level playing field, the best way to do it is to have Olympic-style, random drug testing administered by the premier agency in the world, the [United States Anti-Doping Agency]."
Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said the demand is "absolutely crazy," done simply to harass Pacquiao, who is squeamish about needles, and is proof that Mayweather doesn’t really want the fight.
WAR OSCAR YEE
12-22-2009, 11:49 PM
so either manny is a blood doper or floyd is scared, which one is it?
well, if floyd is subject to the same testing, i don't see how it would give either one an advantage
WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-22-2009, 11:49 PM
floyd's camp is trying to give manny aids
WAR OSCAR YEE
12-22-2009, 11:50 PM
floyd's camp is trying to give manny aids
lolz
Buckner1986
12-22-2009, 11:51 PM
so either manny is a blood doper or floyd is scared, which one is it?
well, if floyd is subject to the same testing, i don't see how it would give either one an advantage
Pac's camp says that Manny is deathly afraid of needles and this is the reason that Floyd is doing this.
WAR OSCAR YEE
12-22-2009, 11:52 PM
lol, if true both sides are being gay
WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-22-2009, 11:52 PM
it's such a fucking joke when shit like this happens in boxing, just sign the fucking contract
HOODS
12-22-2009, 11:52 PM
boxing is so fucking stupid.
I'll only fight you if you duct tape a sombrero to your head for the first three rounds, oh yeah well i'll only fight you if its in memphis and we have to wear 3 lb. boots.
Just fucking fight you faggots.
WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-22-2009, 11:57 PM
http://ak.static.dailymotion.com/dyn/preview/320x240/10487807.jpg
"sign the contwact big boy"
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 12:16 AM
i see no reason for manny not to accept olympic style drug testing, everyone knows that the state commission drug tests are a joke, for possibly the biggest fight in the history of a sport that has been tarnished by cheats and corruption, why not do the best job to ensure both fighters are clean?
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 12:20 AM
boxing is so fucking stupid.
I'll only fight you if you duct tape a sombrero to your head for the first three rounds, oh yeah well i'll only fight you if its in memphis and we have to wear 3 lb. boots.
Just fucking fight you faggots.
right hoods, asking for stricter drug testing in a world filled with dopers = asking someone to wear a sombrero and boots in a fight
this isnt the ufc where the rules are set stone and guys are fighting for 250K, boxing has many variables and alot more shit to work out when both guys are set to make 40mil a piece
HOODS
12-23-2009, 12:20 AM
i see no reason for manny not to accept olympic style drug testing, everyone knows that the state commission drug tests are a joke, for possibly the biggest fight in the history of a sport that has been tarnished by cheats and corruption, why not do the best job to ensure both fighters are clean?
i dont see anything wrong with it, but it definitely seems like both sides are being bitches and demanding a bunch of shit and should just take the assload of money and get in a ring and fight.
HOODS
12-23-2009, 12:22 AM
right hoods, asking for stricter drug testing in a world filled with dopers = asking someone to wear a sombrero and boots in a fight
this isnt the ufc where the rules are set stone and guys are fighting for 250K, boxing has many variables and alot more shit to work out when both guys are set to make 40mil a piece
like i said, for two dudes lookin at making 40 million they are acting like a couple a queers.
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 12:22 AM
i dont see anything wrong with it, but it definitely seems like both sides are being bitches and demanding a bunch of shit and should just take the assload of money and get in a ring and fight.
in a perfect world, but the shit is alot more complicated than that especially with so much money and legacy involved
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 12:26 AM
the fact that drug testing seems to be only thing holding up the fight at this point is ridiculous though
Bones of Satan
12-23-2009, 01:22 PM
i don't see why he would avoid a drug test over $40 million dollars
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 01:46 PM
LOL @ mayweather trying to back out the fight
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 01:49 PM
the fact that drug testing seems to be only thing holding up the fight at this point is ridiculous though
Bud mayweather is smart he needs to get out of this fight so he doesnt get his arse kicked.
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 01:56 PM
Pretty Boy will put on a defensive master-class and take the little chinaman to school.
Yea his defensive master class is that good he wont even enter the the ring and fight :roflnut:
mydixiewrecked
12-23-2009, 01:57 PM
sup brtt
mydixiewrecked
12-23-2009, 02:04 PM
I FUCKING SAID, SUP BRTT
mydixiewrecked
12-23-2009, 02:17 PM
FUCK YOU BRTT
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 02:22 PM
duckman is scared, bottom line, he would rather disgrace himself in front of his entire country for the SECOND time than get in the ring with floyd
:lmao:
Show me the source that Pacman is ducking?
I can show you how duckweather is is ducking though LOL
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 02:23 PM
I FUCKING SAID, SUP BRTT
i dont know what SUP means?
mydixiewrecked
12-23-2009, 02:28 PM
i dont know what SUP means?
its negro slang for whats up
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 04:20 PM
:lmao:
Show me the source that Pacman is ducking?
I can show you how duckweather is is ducking though LOL
Please do Burt, because Floyd has given manny everything he wanted, Floyd wants both fighters to go through the same testing every Olympian does, some reason Manny doesn't want to be tested, hmmmmm and Floyd is ducking?
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 04:22 PM
The double standard with mayweather is unbelievable, if he doesn't give into manny demands Floyd is ducking, if manny doesn't give into Floyd demands Floyd is ducking, how does that work?
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 05:24 PM
The double standard with mayweather is unbelievable, if he doesn't give into manny demands Floyd is ducking, if manny doesn't give into Floyd demands Floyd is ducking, how does that work?
Tell me why out of everyone that Floyd has faced; and in the history of boxing itself that he or anyone else has never used Floyds demands on another opponent before they fight? Tell me why Floyd has never used these demands on Oscar or anyone else? I will tell you why he didn't fear them but he fears Pacman that is clear to see.
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 05:25 PM
Please do Burt, because Floyd has given manny everything he wanted, Floyd wants both fighters to go through the same testing every Olympian does, some reason Manny doesn't want to be tested, hmmmmm and Floyd is ducking?
Pacman is following the rules of the commission; tell me why Floyd cant do that?
garglesemen
12-23-2009, 05:26 PM
at least we dont have to see that can Hatton fight anytime soon.
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 05:30 PM
at least we dont have to see that can Hatton fight anytime soon.
Hatton demolished Yank after Yank apart from one. The guy wrecked yanks for breakfast. His record against them is extraordinary :smile:
bukowski
12-23-2009, 05:30 PM
at least we dont have to see that can Hatton fight anytime soon.
Qft. Hatton is the most overrated shitstain in the history of boxing. A naked two year old has better defense than that can.
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 05:51 PM
...........and tell me why Pacman should follow Floyds demands when its outside the normal structure of Boxing?
Negotiations with money is the norm; that's all that Pacman is doing and its been going on for years. But calling in 3rd party doping testers is not normal practice. Floyd has a perfect made up excuse now he hopes people will believe when he backs out. He knows that pacman is not going to want to take part in a 3rd party doping scheme; and get blood taken on the day of the fight; so Floyd will know that and all he will do now and say "Well I am not fighting him because he refuses a doping test; and I am not fighting a dirty fighter who cheats" Thats what Floyd will say.
The truth is that Pacman is not denying a doping test through the rules of the commission; he is following the rules to a T: but that is not good enough for Floyd he has shown himself to be nothing but a coward.
Buckfutts
12-23-2009, 05:52 PM
Qft. Hatton is the most overrated shitstain in the history of boxing. A naked two year old has better defense than that can.
His record says the opposite to this LOL
...........and tell me why Pacman should follow Floyds demands when its outside the normal structure of Boxing?
Negotiations with money is the norm; that's all that Pacman is doing and its been going on for years. But calling in 3rd party doping testers is not normal practice. Floyd has a perfect made up excuse now he hopes people will believe when he backs out. He knows that pacman is not going to want to take part in a 3rd party doping scheme; and get blood taken on the day of the fight; so Floyd will know that and all he will do now and say "Well I am not fighting him because he refuses a doping test; and I am not fighting a dirty fighter who cheats" Thats what Floyd will say.
The truth is that Pacman is not denying a doping test through the rules of the commission; he is following the rules to a T: but that is not good enough for Floyd he has shown himself to be nothing but a coward.
this
bukowski
12-23-2009, 05:55 PM
Face the facts, he threw in the towel against Mayweather. His records comprised of solely beating cans and when he finally stepped in with a legitimate fighter, he got exposed with the quickness. The guy's a can. I've taken runny whisky shits with more staying power
garglesemen
12-23-2009, 06:03 PM
Hatton demolished Yank after Yank apart from one. The guy wrecked yanks for breakfast. His record against them is extraordinary :smile:
brit can is a brit can
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 06:50 PM
...........and tell me why Pacman should follow Floyds demands when its outside the normal structure of Boxing?
Negotiations with money is the norm; that's all that Pacman is doing and its been going on for years. But calling in 3rd party doping testers is not normal practice. Floyd has a perfect made up excuse now he hopes people will believe when he backs out. He knows that pacman is not going to want to take part in a 3rd party doping scheme; and get blood taken on the day of the fight; so Floyd will know that and all he will do now and say "Well I am not fighting him because he refuses a doping test; and I am not fighting a dirty fighter who cheats" Thats what Floyd will say.
The truth is that Pacman is not denying a doping test through the rules of the commission; he is following the rules to a T: but that is not good enough for Floyd he has shown himself to be nothing but a coward.
Sorry I don't buy into the excuse that no one else has ever done it, there used to be no testing at all and the current system is a joke and is designed for dopers to test clean. I understand he doesn't owe Floyd shit, but by turning down these tests it's gonna cast doubt and in the court of public opinion refusal to take the test might as well be admission of guilt, and I do think they both owe it to the fans and the integrity of the sport that has been tarnished by cheats and corruption to do there best to insure this is a clean fight.
Now I don't think Manny is juicing and I'm pretty sure this is all posturing and helping hype the fight, in a few days they will have a agreed on a testing program and the fight will be go.
Also let's not forget Mannys camp as much as anyone loves to play these games during negotiations, they have switched the date three times and Floyd has come along with all of them, they asked for a ten million dollar weight clause which is outside of the commisions rules about weight as well and an absurd amount of money, but the one request Floyd has manny won't do, and somehow Floyd is the ass?
bukowski
12-23-2009, 06:52 PM
American Born just annihilated Britt with a rapier of pure logic
WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-23-2009, 06:55 PM
he held the shit covered innards he had ripped from his body under his nose so he could smell his own demise
Bones of Satan
12-23-2009, 06:59 PM
BURT is crying this rapage right now to my ncharge account at fwi
godofdixie
12-23-2009, 07:19 PM
according to sportscenter this fight probably won't happen
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 07:33 PM
according to sportscenter this fight probably won't happen
There is too much money involved for the fight not to happen over something like this, they will compromise and both make 40+ million, Golden Boy saw an oppurtunity to throw some negative press at top rank and pacquiao and they did
godofdixie
12-23-2009, 07:38 PM
There is too much money involved for the fight not to happen over something like this, they will compromise and both make 40+ million, Golden Boy saw an oppurtunity to throw some negative press at top rank and pacquiao and they did
the quote i saw was from bob arum. what negative press has been out there? i haven't been following the news about this fight.
AMERICAN BONES
12-23-2009, 07:47 PM
the quote i saw was from bob arum. what negative press has been out there? i haven't been following the news about this fight.
The negative press would be manny refusing to take a more extensive drug test therefore making it seem as though he has something to hide, and Arum isan idiot he hasn't even been involved in the negotiations for weeks , they are all just posturing
Javelina
12-23-2009, 07:49 PM
i hate to admit that i more or less agree with bs on the mayweather point. hatton is a brit can tho
bukowski
12-23-2009, 09:00 PM
Americanborn is owning the shit out of this thread
P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-23-2009, 09:31 PM
war floyd just for this fight
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