cain velasquez vs. nogueira moved to ufc 109

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

http://www.mmamania.com/2009/11/26/1174897/antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-vs-cain

[Bones of Satan]

didn't these guys already fight on the last ufc?

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

huh

[Bones of Satan]

nog knocked him out this past sat no?

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

lol, roid rageeeeeee

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

luis cane velasquez vs. antonio rogerio nogueira

bodega cain velasquez vs. antonio rodrigo nogueira

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Nogueira by sub

[Bones of Satan]

why are they fighting again? i didn't think the stoppage was early luis cain was clearly knocked out

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

why are they fighting again? i didn't think the stoppage was early luis cain was clearly knocked out

i agree

[Shogun Marcus]

Nice, I thought this was going to be delayed much later.

[heathenos]

Velasquez by gnp. he has better standup, better wrasslin, better everything.

[AO!]

yea man, valesquez will totally knock out nog standing.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

well, frank mir did

[AO!]

true enough i guess. although mir's standup is really improved now and nog looked like shit in that one.

if cain has drastically improved his standup and nog comes in shitty it could happen.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

nog was almost dead in the fight vs mir, severe staph infection and a fucked up knee. Gordita Velasquez is going to get submitted, he doesn't have much power in his punches and Nog's boxing is much better than his

[___]

Nog's boxing is overrated. Him knocking down a pathetic old man doesn't change that. His stand up has forever been overrated. However it's still probably better than Cain's. I'm still curious about his chin. Yeah he was sick and shit against Mir, but that doesn't affect your chin and he hasn't been hit since. I think Cain could very well drop him, because this one is staying on the feet unless Cain is getting worked.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

overrated or not it's better than cain's imo

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Nog's boxing is overrated. Him knocking down a pathetic old man doesn't change that. His stand up has forever been overrated. However it's still probably better than Cain's. I'm still curious about his chin. Yeah he was sick and shit against Mir, but that doesn't affect your chin and he hasn't been hit since. I think Cain could very well drop him, because this one is staying on the feet unless Cain is getting worked.
actually it does

[heathenos]

nog was almost dead in the fight vs mir, severe staph infection and a fucked up knee. Gordita Velasquez is going to get submitted, he doesn't have much power in his punches and Nog's boxing is much better than his

...but...but he was half dead, he was infected, bad knee, his dog died, etc..

the only guys that i can actually picture beating up Cain are Brock, JDS, and Carwin.

[heathenos]

actually it does

i thought Ben Fatwell was gonna ko Cain?

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

he was and it showed, if you don't want to believe it that's cool I'll just continue scrolling over your irrelevant dumbass posts like I usually do

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

big ben rothwell was about to decapitate the beaner before that early stoppage

[___]

actually it does

lol, ok doc. Stop pulling shit out of your ass.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

im not there were interviews afterwards from a few fighters regarding staph and by all accounts it would make you get rocked/hurt easier given the severity of the sickness

[SatNav]

Nog's boxing is overrated. Him knocking down a pathetic old man doesn't change that. His stand up has forever been overrated. However it's still probably better than Cain's. I'm still curious about his chin. Yeah he was sick and shit against Mir, but that doesn't affect your chin and he hasn't been hit since. I think Cain could very well drop him, because this one is staying on the feet unless Cain is getting worked.

alot of fighters say that if you are not in shape you will get KO'd very easily.

but I guess you know better?

[SatNav]

lol, ok doc. Stop pulling shit out of your ass.

watch the docu Knockout Secrets, and you can stop talking about shit that you know nothing about.

okay?

[___]

I'd like to see some sort of medical evidence proving it either way. People may feel that they get hurt easier simply because they aren't able to avoid punches as well, since their reflexes are shot. Now in Nog's case, we know he used to be able to take a hard shot right on the chin, but, like many others, his chin will go away after years of abuse. None of us know which is the case. A fighter saying I get hurt easier when I'm sick simply isn't enough for me.

[SatNav]

I'd like to see some sort of medical evidence proving it either way. People may feel that they get hurt easier simply because they aren't able to avoid punches as well, since their reflexes are shot. Now in Nog's case, we know he used to be able to take a hard shot right on the chin, but, like many others, his chin will go away after years of abuse. None of us know which is the case. A fighter saying I get hurt easier when I'm sick simply isn't enough for me.

well okay then.

[SexeCute]

Nog will take this one. Three UFC HWs Cain can't beat....yet; Brock, JDS, and Nog.

[SatNav]

Nog will take this one. Three UFC HWs Cain can't beat....yet; Brock, JDS, and Nog.

JDS is a fucking can

[SexeCute]

JDS is a fucking can

And a douchebag.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

JDS is a fucking can

nope

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

And a douchebag.

gotten to

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

lol, imagine if cain beat nog and bisping beat wand, this forum would explode

[SatNav]

lol, imagine if cain beat nog and bisping beat wand, this forum would explode

thank good that will never happen.

[SatNav]

And a douchebag.

like, totally

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

thank good that will never happen.

why did you only highlight the 2nd part?

[SatNav]

why did you only highlight the 2nd part?

wand is the only fighter i care about.

[HOODS]

lol, imagine if cain beat nog and bisping beat wand, this forum would explode

not really, the forum is comprised of mostly ufc fans, and a few pride fans. I dont see yer point.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

not really, the forum is comprised of mostly ufc fans, and a few pride fans. I dont see yer point.

lol, you can't be serious

[HOODS]

lol, you can't be serious

u must be confused, when the forum was pissed that shogun lost you must think it was some "pride" fan thing, no, people were just universally pissed off that mashitta got a gift decision, had nothing to do with anything else.

I know u thought your trolling was awesome because it was annoying "all the pride fans" but in reality it was everyone who thought shogun won not just the few pride fans here.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i'm not just talking about the shogun fight

[Shogun Marcus]

i'm not just talking about the shogun fight

aside from the Wand and Fedor nuthuggers, there are relatively few people who still think Pride was better than UFC. I still maintain that Pride put on better shows, but UFC has more legitimacy.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

my original post was that the forum would explode if wand lost to bisping and nog lost to cain. i stand by my statement

[AO!]

aside from the Wand and Fedor nuthuggers, there are relatively few people who still think Pride was better than UFC. I still maintain that Pride put on better shows, but UFC has more legitimacy.

stop trying to fool sorrid. you know damn well everyone here is a pride nuthugger and soirrd is an expert on mma.

[AO!]

my original post was that the forum would explode if wand lost to bisping and nog lost to cain. i stand by my statement

why the fuck wouldnt they? both are underdogs although not huge underdogs.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

why the fuck wouldnt they? both are underdogs although not huge underdogs.

so was brian foster against brock larson

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

cain is gonna prolly be around +150 against nog, and bisping maybe +125

[HOODS]

cain hasnt fought one legit fighter yet, kongo has zero ground game so that was just a gimme fight. And rothwell, no matter how hard the ufc tried to hype him, has always been a slow fat can.

Nog by methodical murder.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

what about wand bisping

[AO!]

so was brian foster against brock larson

i have no idea what point this is trying to make. i also dont know why the fuck you are guessing at the lines on these guys.

[HOODS]

what about wand bisping

i feel like the ufc (and rightly so) is matching wand up with fighters who have no ko power, franklin, bisping, akiyama originally. They dont want wand to get ko'd anymore since they want his career to be longer and he's gotten ktfo a lot in the last couple years and really does need a break from that.

With that being said, if its at 185 i dunno how wand will do, he just is too big to make that cut, he looked slow at 195 so i dunno how he will look. Its possible bisping jabs and runs away and uses franklins type of gameplan, but, wand by brutal first round knockout.

[HHJ]

nothing wrong with that tho