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Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 11:25 AM
Big shocker here :um::

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/28/1177306/anderson-silva-wont-fight-vitor

MMAjunkie.com has learned from sources close to the organization that a planned bout between UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort will not take place on Feb. 6.

Silva's has bone chips removed from his right elbow in October, and the joint has reportedly proved slow to heal.

Sources close to the situation informed MMAjunkie.com that "The Spider" might not be ready to fight until April, though Silva's manager, Ed Soares, wasn't immediately available for comment.

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MMAjunkie.com was unable to establish whether the UFC would seek to find a new opponent for Belfort or if "The Phenom" will ride out the new delay for his shot at the UFC's middleweight title.

We've written repeatedly about Anderson Silva and his manager Ed Soares' recent habit of being available for big money fights and seemingly avoiding less lucrative bouts. Brent Brookhouse made the most damning case:

Silva and Soares were quick to jump out and start claiming that Vitor was not worthy of a title shot and that the true challenger should still be the winner of the fantasy Marquardt vs. Hendo match-up. Not only do they not feel that Belfort earned a shot at the belt, but the previously "200% healthy" Silva DID end up having elbow surgery and now that was turning into a possible factor that would prevent the fight from happening. In talking down Belfort they are also breaking one of the golden rules of fight promotion by making it look like the challenger didn't earn his shot. It works for a guy like Lesnar because that is a part of his mystique, but it can significantly damage a fight's drawing power when the challenger is framed as not being deserving and probably being third or fourth in line for the shot to begin with.

So now we went from a division brimming with potentially huge fights and legitimate challengers to Silva/Belfort which may not happen because of the elbow which seems to always be hurt when Anderson doesn't like the fight he has been offered, Dan Henderson seemingly out of the UFC, and Nate Marquardt in limbo.

And here we are again, with Silva claiming his elbow isn't recovering quickly enough to allow him to fight at UFC 109. I expect that if Brock Lesnar or some other mega-PPV draw were on the card, that Silva would be experiencing a miraculous recovery.

As big a fan as I am of Anderson Silva's incredible fighting talents and creativity as a martial artist, I'm no fan of his behavior at the negotiating table and this is one fighter who makes me root for Dana White to put the boot down as soon as the tables turn and Anderson needs the UFC more than they need him.

It does create an opportunity for the UFC to give Vitor Belfort one fight at 185lbs so that he can make a stronger case for deserving the title shot. Of course if they were interested in fighters deserving title shots rather than being marketable draws on a PPV headliner, they'd have booked Nate Marquardt's for a rematch with Anderson Silva by now anyhow.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 11:27 AM
Marquardt/Belfort at 109. Fuck Sonnen.

Meaty Portion
11-29-2009, 11:33 AM
I like Silva less and less. I mean if he's hurt, he's hurt but it seems fishy.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 11:36 AM
Always fishy. Him and his little weirdo manager Ed Soares. He's holding out for a big fight, but I don't know who he wants to fight? Couture? Rashad?

Meaty Portion
11-29-2009, 11:39 AM
I'm frankly bored with Silva. Yeah, he obliterated Forrest but that was the first fight he's looked impressive at in a loooooooooooong time and only because Forrest charges people and swings for the fences. I expect the next fight will look more like Silva/Cote.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 11:45 AM
I'm frankly bored with Silva. Yeah, he obliterated Forrest but that was the first fight he's looked impressive at in a loooooooooooong time and only because Forrest charges people and swings for the fences. I expect the next fight will look more like Silva/Cote.

Yeah, if he fought Belfort then it would look exactly like Cote. If he was afraid of Cote's power then he's having nightmares about Belfort's.

If he's too injured to defend the 185 belt then they should make an interim title fight between Belfort and Marquardt. Silva obviously wants nothing to do with anyone at 185, so maybe this will make him drop the title and move up to 205 exclusively.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 11:56 AM
lol @ people thinking silva was afraid of anything cote had. or vitor. anderson is trying to be the rjj of mma, and that means carrying people to longer fights. he can obliterate anyone in 5 minutes easily, but he'd rather go out and perform longer, and be flashy, which is why he was doing flying knees and double jumping kicks and shit. he also toyed with fagis leites.

babyboneswordsman
11-29-2009, 01:03 PM
that michael jackson sounding faggot is ducking him

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:05 PM
he Does sound eerily similiar to michael jackson. so does shogun though

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:13 PM
i called this a long time ago, dont feel like going back and quoting myself in other threads.

Bottom line anderson has never fought a legit stiker in his career, whether you believe hes ducking belfort or not, you cant deny that he somehow always finds a way to dodge strikers.

And for all the people who are saying belfort doesnt deserve the title shot, fuck off, he just steamrolled lindland and franklin. Who the fuck else you gonna put in there?

First off, silva wont fight marquardt, and even if he did that fight wont sell shit, so the ufc doesnt want that either.

Hendo? Anderson doesnt want to fight him again either, plus now its not an option for the ufc anyway.

Belfort is the only option, if anderson ends up fighting sonnen for the title or jardine at 205 then hes a fight ducking faggot and his fans should acknowledge it.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:15 PM
he's fought strikers in his mt career, and he called out rjj.

lee murray isn't a terrible striker, either.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:18 PM
i called this a long time ago, dont feel like going back and quoting myself in other threads.

Bottom line anderson has never fought a legit stiker in his career, whether you believe hes ducking belfort or not, you cant deny that he somehow always finds a way to dodge strikers.

And for all the people who are saying belfort doesnt deserve the title shot, fuck off, he just steamrolled lindland and franklin. Who the fuck else you gonna put in there?

First off, silva wont fight marquardt, and even if he did that fight wont sell shit, so the ufc doesnt want that either.

Hendo? Anderson doesnt want to fight him again either, plus now its not an option for the ufc anyway.

Belfort is the only option, if anderson ends up fighting sonnen for the title or jardine at 205 then hes a fight ducking faggot and his fans should acknowledge it.

Everybody except solid knew this fight was never going to happen. I don't think he has any intentions of ever defending that 185 belt again. He'll never fight Sonnen because Marquardt is going to crush him and he won't fight Marquardt because he's already said that he doesn't want to fight guys that he's already beat (eventhough I think that Nate would give him a far better fight this time than last time). I guess he's holding out for a 205 fight with Couture or maybe even a HW fight with Mir.

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:21 PM
he's fought strikers in his mt career, and he called out rjj.

lee murray isn't a terrible striker, either.

yeah ok dude, shall i even respond to this?

Calling out someone when you know full well you cant fight them, is that even a call out? Really, you cant even say its a call out its just a waste of time, a cry for attention.

As for lee murray how long ago was that, and murray was a UK type of striker, had dangerous hands but didnt use leg kicks very often if at all, and not much footwork. Anderson just chopped his legs down the first two rounds and ran away the third round, hardly an impressive victory more like he did what he had to do to win.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:21 PM
ive been saying this for months now but i legit think he's holding out to see the result of shogun vs machida. if shogun takes it he'll drop 185 and try to take shogun's belt.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:21 PM
he's fought strikers in his mt career, and he called out rjj.

lee murray isn't a terrible striker, either.

Who cares if he's called out RJJ? The only shot he has a getting a big payday in a future RJJ fight is by destroying guys right now and making a big mainstream name for himself. He's afraid of anyone that has a shot at beating him and tarnishing his legacy and messing up this fight with RJJ, IMO.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:22 PM
ive been saying this for months now but i legit think he's holding out to see the result of shogun vs machida. if shogun takes it he'll drop 185 and try to take shogun's belt.

You have it backwards. Shogun is at 205.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:23 PM
And I concur, I think he's holding out for big name fights. Couture, Rashad, Rampage, Shogun and Mir would all be big money makers.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:24 PM
yeah ok dude, shall i even respond to this?

Calling out someone when you know full well you cant fight them, is that even a call out? Really, you cant even say its a call out its just a waste of time, a cry for attention.

As for lee murray how long ago was that, and murray was a UK type of striker, had dangerous hands but didnt use leg kicks very often if at all, and not much footwork. Anderson just chopped his legs down the first two rounds and ran away the third round, hardly an impressive victory more like he did what he had to do to win.

well, rjj said he'd do it, and i think thats why anderson wants to retire at the end of his contract, so he can try to make it happen. but you've definitely got a point.

vitor can be compared to lee murrary a lil imo

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:25 PM
ive been saying this for months now but i legit think he's holding out to see the result of shogun vs machida. if shogun takes it he'll drop 185 and try to take shogun's belt.

thats quite a theory you got there, well then anderson would be out of commission for quite a long time waiting for that fight to happen. You would think he would want to fight as soon and as much as possible so he could finish out his contract and get that huge mega fight (lol) with rjj.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:26 PM
You have it backwards. Shogun is at 205.

he was silva in my post. silva will drop 185 (as in the title) and try to take 205

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:27 PM
And I concur, I think he's holding out for big name fights. Couture, Rashad, Rampage, Shogun and Mir would all be big money makers.

if he ends up fighting couture of jardine i dont know why anyone would even watch.

The mir fight is a compelling match up, but do you think the ufc will let anderson jump to HW? Its doubtful.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:28 PM
thats quite a theory you got there, well then anderson would be out of commission for quite a long time waiting for that fight to happen. You would think he would want to fight as soon and as much as possible so he could finish out his contract and get that huge mega fight (lol) with rjj.

well, he wants to leave mma on top. so i guess he's willing to wait for top competiton than to just flatten so contenders. he's an mma fighter first, and when he signed his contract he probably thought he'd get 6 or whatever bigger fights pretty easily, but they keep putting nobodies infront of him.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:28 PM
if he ends up fighting couture of jardine i dont know why anyone would even watch.

The mir fight is a compelling match up, but do you think the ufc will let anderson jump to HW? Its doubtful.

pretty sure dana said he wouldn't allow silva at hw

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:31 PM
well, he wants to leave mma on top. so i guess he's willing to wait for top competiton than to just flatten so contenders. he's an mma fighter first, and when he signed his contract he probably thought he'd get 6 or whatever bigger fights pretty easily, but they keep putting nobodies infront of him.

i see what your theory is, but i just dont buy it at all. The belfort fight would be as big as any fight they could make. So that just negates everything you are saying.

The only fight which could possibly garner a little more money solely based on name value is couture, but then that negates the whole "fighting the best competition" theory you got going, a lot of conflicting points in your theory, but nevertheless everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:31 PM
if he ends up fighting couture of jardine i dont know why anyone would even watch.

The mir fight is a compelling match up, but do you think the ufc will let anderson jump to HW? Its doubtful.

A Couture/Anderson fight would probably get great PPV numbers. And I'm sure if Mir and Anderson talk a little shit they could persuade Dana White to let Anderson move up to HW. The Anderson/Mir shit talk was starting right before Mir/Kongo announced.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:33 PM
i see what your theory is, but i just dont buy it at all. The belfort fight would be as big as any fight they could make. So that just negates everything you are saying.

The only fight which could possibly garner a little more money solely based on name value is couture, but then that negates the whole "fighting the best competition" theory you got going, a lot of conflicting points in your theory, but nevertheless everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I don't think he cares about top competition, I think he cares about making money and fighting big names sells more PPVs which puts more money in his pocket. I don't think Anderson would balk one second at a Couture fight.

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:34 PM
A Couture/Anderson fight would probably get great PPV numbers. And I'm sure if Mir and Anderson talk a little shit they could persuade Dana White to let Anderson move up to HW. The Anderson/Mir shit talk was starting right before Mir/Kongo announced.

yeah if he fights couture i wont even watch. Dude was getting owned by vera in the standup i mean why would i want to watch anderson dance around then throw two punches ko couture then dance around the rings celebrating like a faggot.

The mir fight, has some potential though.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:36 PM
yeah if he fights couture i wont even watch. Dude was getting owned by vera in the standup i mean why would i want to watch anderson dance around then throw two punches ko couture then dance around the rings celebrating like a faggot.

The mir fight, has some potential though.

Yeah the Couture fight would be quicker than the Forrest fight. If Mir lost to Anderson he'd probably kill himself.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:37 PM
i see what your theory is, but i just dont buy it at all. The belfort fight would be as big as any fight they could make. So that just negates everything you are saying.

The only fight which could possibly garner a little more money solely based on name value is couture, but then that negates the whole "fighting the best competition" theory you got going, a lot of conflicting points in your theory, but nevertheless everyone is entitled to their opinion.before rampage retired that would have been huge, rashad could be big, shogun obviously, and you and i know couture ain't top comp, bu the general public still thinks so.


the belfort fight would be big, but maybe he doesn't even want 185 anymore. i just don't think he's ducking belfort. he may not think belfort is worthy of one of his last 3 fights or whatever, too. it's kind of lame of him, but he's even said something like that in an interview. belfort lost to hendo (yeah at 205, but still, anderson crushed him), one punches old man glass jaw then destroyed franklin at 195. belfort didn't even do very well against terry martin, considering it was terry martin.

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:39 PM
Yeah the Couture fight would be quicker than the Forrest fight. If Mir lost to Anderson he'd probably kill himself.

lol, yeah mir is such a douche. Go to ufc.com and watch his interview about kongo, he talks like hes some educated professor when hes just a fucking douche who probably dropped out of high school.

And the kongo interview was equally as funny, he basically was like "i am shut his big mouth"

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:39 PM
before rampage retired that would have been huge, rashad could be big, shogun obviously, and you and i know couture ain't top comp, bu the general public still thinks so.


the belfort fight would be big, but maybe he doesn't even want 185 anymore. i just don't think he's ducking belfort. he may not think belfort is worthy of one of his last 3 fights or whatever, too. it's kind of lame of him, but he's even said something like that in an interview. belfort lost to hendo (yeah at 205, but still, anderson crushed him), one punches old man glass jaw then destroyed franklin at 195. belfort didn't even do very well against terry martin, considering it was terry martin.

i know this is pretty irrelevent, because it was a while ago, but it's kind of indicitive of his skills.

HOODS
11-29-2009, 01:42 PM
before rampage retired that would have been huge, rashad could be big, shogun obviously, and you and i know couture ain't top comp, bu the general public still thinks so.


the belfort fight would be big, but maybe he doesn't even want 185 anymore. i just don't think he's ducking belfort. he may not think belfort is worthy of one of his last 3 fights or whatever, too. it's kind of lame of him, but he's even said something like that in an interview. belfort lost to hendo (yeah at 205, but still, anderson crushed him), one punches old man glass jaw then destroyed franklin at 195. belfort didn't even do very well against terry martin, considering it was terry martin.

i guess, no point in beating a dead horse we just disagree. I personally think silva is somewhat afraid to fight a striker that could pose a threat to him. This would be validated if he takes a fight with couture, or rashad, or even rampage (i know rampage is a striker but i just think his style would play right into the hands of anderson). If he fights shogun, which would be like a long time from now, that would be him showing hes not afraid to fight a competent striker.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 01:44 PM
rampage would be funny. worlds worst knee defense vs arguably the best thai clinch in mma

Meaty Portion
11-29-2009, 01:45 PM
Silva vs the re-animated corpse of Evan Tanner. Dana make it happen.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 01:55 PM
lol, yeah mir is such a douche. Go to ufc.com and watch his interview about kongo, he talks like hes some educated professor when hes just a fucking douche who probably dropped out of high school.

And the kongo interview was equally as funny, he basically was like "i am shut his big mouth"

If Nog was truly injured before and during the Mir fight (which I believe he was) I hope they fight again so that Nog can beat him.

flashNsmash
11-29-2009, 01:56 PM
No way in fuck Nog loses the rematch.

flashNsmash
11-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Even though Mir is 10-15x the athlete he is.

HOODS
11-29-2009, 02:06 PM
Even though Mir is 10-15x the athlete he is.

lulz.

American Born Jr
11-29-2009, 02:55 PM
ed soares is a shifty lil fuck....

flashNsmash
11-29-2009, 02:57 PM
Rampage dominates 205-lb. Anderson in UFC Undisputed, so that's probably how it would play out in real life IMO.

American Born Jr
11-29-2009, 03:23 PM
instead of canderson/oldtoure...they should just set up a live ppv of canderson fucking kim couture in an octagon.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 03:26 PM
First PPV solid ever buys, IMO.

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 03:26 PM
i'd buy that one.

ArtardFiesta
11-29-2009, 03:36 PM
Solid must be on the verge of suicide since his 3 favorite fighters are all ducking fights.

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 03:36 PM
Solid must be on the verge of suicide since his 3 favorite fighters are all ducking fights.

And he can't get into the MMA forum.

American Born Jr
11-29-2009, 03:40 PM
And he can't get into the MMA forum.

lol they banned him from it?

Buckner1986
11-29-2009, 03:44 PM
lol they banned him from it?

Somebody did. There's a thread about it somewhere.

Buckfutts
11-29-2009, 03:50 PM
Solid must be on the verge of suicide since his 3 favorite fighters are all ducking fights.

:roflnut:

Holic
11-29-2009, 03:51 PM
BRING BACK HEN-DO *clap clap clapclapclap*

Summer Berries
11-29-2009, 03:55 PM
BRING BACK HEN-DO *clap clap clapclapclap*

the crowd should chant this. it's good.

Octavian
11-29-2009, 04:00 PM
Marquardt/Belfort at 109. Fuck Sonnen.

I hate Sonnen... and all he'd do is try to shoot a double leg against Vitor the whole time - sadly, he'd probably get it sooner or later and we'd see him lay on Vitor and the Brazilian would naturally gas as he always does.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-29-2009, 09:56 PM
HATE ANDERSON NOW!

ArtardFiesta
11-30-2009, 09:04 AM
No ones hating on Anderson we are just discussing how he is scared to fight a Elite striker such as Vitor.

Bones of Satan
11-30-2009, 10:54 AM
anderson silva is a pedophile

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 01:48 PM
No ones hating on Anderson we are just discussing how he is scared to fight a Elite striker such as Vitor.
oh, so just talking nonsense. cool.

P 2 Tha Mofo J
11-30-2009, 01:53 PM
anderson silva hasnt had a good showing since the chris leben fight

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 01:56 PM
anderson silva hasnt had a good showing since the chris leben fight

i think chris had the flu for that fight imo

Chucxone
11-30-2009, 02:22 PM
anderson silva hasnt had a good showing since the chris leben fight


Franklin I and II, Irvine, Forrest, Fitch.....I think he has but at times I thought he was going to lose too. Hendo had me thinking he was going to beat Silva at one point

*edit...I meant Cote not Fitch

super hot
11-30-2009, 02:23 PM
Canderson is a fighting ducking faggot. His elbow surgery wasn't even a big deal. It's like they were doing tommy john surgery or some shit like that.

babyboneswordsman
11-30-2009, 02:27 PM
remember when pride fighters would fight anybody anytime? UFC fighters are pussy

Chucxone
11-30-2009, 02:28 PM
"they are also breaking one of the golden rules of fight promotion by making it look like the challenger didn't earn his shot..."

this is fucking priceless...he gets a title shot after one fight yet he thinks no one else should.

HOODS
11-30-2009, 02:29 PM
"they are also breaking one of the golden rules of fight promotion by making it look like the challenger didn't earn his shot..."

this is fucking priceless...he gets a title shot after one fight yet he thinks no one else should.

thats what fight ducking faggots do, its inevitable that they selfpwn themselves and stumble over there words repeatedly.

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 03:25 PM
anderson's one fight in the ufc was a 49 second destruction of an unbeaten ufc prospect that was one win from a title fight (sure leben sucks and everyone knew it, but thats beside the point). vitors one win is over a guy who has been destroyed by the champion and lost another fight, and it wasn't even at middleweight.

kayfuNk
11-30-2009, 03:34 PM
Silva has already beaten these chumps, why the fuck is he going to waste his time with someone who is no challenge. Now i can see him fighting Hendo again because THAT was a great match up. You have the remember, this guys on his way out, ready to retire. The last thing he wants is to waste his time on a low money, low competition fight.

HHJ
11-30-2009, 03:53 PM
Marquardt/Belfort at 109. Fuck Sonnen.

qft

HHJ
11-30-2009, 03:53 PM
marquardt/hendo wouldve been sweet too :(

P 2 Tha Mofo J
11-30-2009, 04:08 PM
Franklin I and II, Irvine, Forrest, Fitch.....I think he has but at times I thought he was going to lose too. Hendo had me thinking he was going to beat Silva at one point

when did anderson silva fight fitch?

HHJ
11-30-2009, 04:08 PM
never did happen stolecannom

Chucxone
11-30-2009, 05:51 PM
when did anderson silva fight fitch?


my bad....I meant Cote.

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 09:28 PM
how the hell do you mix up fitch and cote haha?

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:29 PM
seriously

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 09:31 PM
and as far as im concerned, all of his performances have been impressive performances. not soooo much the leites fight, but he still dominated a talented contender to the point that he had nothing left. unfortunately he didn't just bum rush and kill him at some point.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:33 PM
anderson silva haters are the same as brock lesnar haters, they pick against him every time and when they win, the haters just discredit their opponents saying they were just cans

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:34 PM
I rarely pick against Anderson

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:34 PM
before:
forrest griffin is gonna beat anderson silva, he's beaten shogun and rampage, anderson's never fought someone of his size

after:
forrest is just a can, he was never good, plus it was a work anyway

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:35 PM
I'll pick Vitor over him whenever they end up fighting

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:35 PM
I rarely pick against Anderson

you're picking belfort over him and then after he loses, you're just gonna say belfort sucks, he's still mentally broken from his sister dying 10 years ago

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:35 PM
before:
forrest griffin is gonna beat anderson silva, he's beaten shogun and rampage, anderson's never fought someone of his size

after:
forrest is just a can, he was never good, plus it was a work anyway

This was all a ruse to get to you. It worked, btw. Many tears and a SD thread followed.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:35 PM
so you picked anderson over hendo?

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:35 PM
Nope I'd never say that about Belfort

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:36 PM
you're picking belfort over him and then after he loses, you're just gonna say belfort sucks, he's still mentally broken from his sister dying 10 years ago

They're not ever going to fight, bud. I tried telling you that about 3 weeks ago.

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:36 PM
solid's boy Rosholt got booted from the UFC today. Nice pick.

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:37 PM
I wasn't on mmapg when Anderson fought Hendo but I probably would have picked Hendo

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:37 PM
solid's boy Rosholt got booted from the UFC today. Nice pick.

why the fuck is leben still in the ufc?

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:37 PM
solid's boy Rosholt got booted from the UFC today. Nice pick.

good that can has no business in the UFC

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 09:37 PM
the only person i see with a legit shot at beating andy is hendo. and maybe moo moo, but i'd pick anderson by first round knockout against gaygard

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:37 PM
why the fuck is leben still in the ufc?

cause he was on TUF

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:38 PM
I wasn't on mmapg when Anderson fought Hendo but I probably would have picked Hendo

terrible pick, imo

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:38 PM
why the fuck is leben still in the ufc?

So you can pick against him on an undercard and lose.

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:38 PM
that's the only way I can explain it, Leben was on TUF and he always has exciting fights win or lose that's the only reasons I can think of why he's still there

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:38 PM
So you can pick against him on an undercard and lose.

he is gonna lose his next fight

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:39 PM
that's the only way I can explain it, Leben was on TUF and he always has exciting fights win or lose that's the only reasons I can think of why he's still there

they should put him up against candle

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:39 PM
and make it a loser leaves town match

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:39 PM
terrible pick, imo
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http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/39.jpg</td> <td class="AC Brb">http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/vs.gif</td> <td class="Small AC VA Brb" style="width: 95px;">James Irvin
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/177.jpg</td> <td class="AC PlPr Brb WasRight">Anderson Silva
Fight ends in round 1
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC PlPr Wbg Brb">Anderson Silva
Fight ends in round 1
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC Wbg BlBr">11</td></tr></tbody></table>

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:39 PM
Exciting fights get you more fights. Like Clay Guida.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:40 PM
<table style="margin-top: 10px;" id="MPT" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="AC Small VA Brb" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223); width: 95px;">Anderson Silva
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/39.jpg</td> <td class="AC Brb">http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/vs.gif</td> <td class="Small AC VA Brb" style="width: 95px;">James Irvin
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/177.jpg</td> <td class="AC PlPr Brb WasRight">Anderson Silva
Fight ends in round 1
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC PlPr Wbg Brb">Anderson Silva
Fight ends in round 1
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC Wbg BlBr">11</td></tr></tbody></table>

nice

Summer Berries
11-30-2009, 09:40 PM
that's the only way I can explain it, Leben was on TUF and he always has exciting fights win or lose that's the only reasons I can think of why he's still there

lebens got the style the ufc wants. hillbilly brawl style whatever. they like guys like him to put on the undercard to try to make for an okay show.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:40 PM
Exciting fights get you more fights. Like Clay Guida.

kenny florian rd 2 REAR NAKED CHOKE

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:41 PM
TALK SHIT NOW
<table style="margin-top: 10px;" id="MPT" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="AC Small VA Brb" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223); width: 95px;">James Giboo
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/nopic.gif</td> <td class="AC Brb">http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/vs_hot.gif</td> <td class="Small AC VA Brb" style="width: 95px;">Brad Blackburn
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/315.jpg</td> <td class="AC PlPr Brb WasRight">Brad Blackburn
Fight ends in round 2
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC PlPr Wbg Brb">Brad Blackburn
Fight ends in round 2
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC Wbg BlBr">22</td></tr></tbody></table>
lol james giboo

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:41 PM
kenny florian rd 2 REAR NAKED CHOKE

Gray Maynard rd 1 Verbal submission via hammer fists

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:41 PM
TALK SHIT NOW
<table style="margin-top: 10px;" id="MPT" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="AC Small VA Brb" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223); width: 95px;">James Giboo
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/nopic.gif</td> <td class="AC Brb">http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/vs_hot.gif</td> <td class="Small AC VA Brb" style="width: 95px;">Brad Blackburn
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/315.jpg</td> <td class="AC PlPr Brb WasRight">Brad Blackburn
Fight ends in round 2
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC PlPr Wbg Brb">Brad Blackburn
Fight ends in round 2
KO / TKO</td> <td class="AC Wbg BlBr">22</td></tr></tbody></table>
lol james gibboo

who in the hell

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:41 PM
The ever popular James Giboo

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:41 PM
Gray Maynard rd 1 Verbal submission via hammer fists

florian is fighting guida

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:42 PM
who in the hell

Real MMA knowledge knows James Gibbo, bud.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:42 PM
florian by fucking choke, don't let go

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:42 PM
florian is fighting guida

Yeah and Gray is going to make Nate Diaz cry.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:43 PM
Yeah and Gray is going to make Nate Diaz cry.

lol, diaz actually made him run outta the octagon when they fought

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:43 PM
lol, diaz actually made him run outta the octagon when they fought

Fighters never improve.

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:43 PM
if gay maynard tries standing with Diaz he'll get popped repeatedly, more than likely he'll eat a few punches and immediately start trying for the takedown

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 09:44 PM
Nate Diaz had like 8 fights and one in the WEC when he fought on TUF. Gray was straight outta Purdue.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:44 PM
if gay maynard tries standing with Diaz he'll get popped repeatedly, more than likely he'll eat a few punches and immediately start trying for the takedown

huerta was fuckin teeing off on him

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 09:48 PM
gay maynard is a fucking boring faggot and if he does fight Diaz I hope he gets pull guard guillotined in the 1st

Mr. Thick Dick
11-30-2009, 09:58 PM
Why does anyone even give a shit about CanderDuck or CanDuckson or whatever. He's been fed C-level fighters his entire UFC career and he does nothing but counter-punch. If he actually engaged I might enjoy watching him fight.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:58 PM
lol, that's actually how diaz won the first time

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 09:58 PM
Why does anyone even give a shit about CanderDuck or CanDuckson or whatever. He's been fed C-level fighters his entire UFC career and he does nothing but counter-punch. If he actually engaged I might enjoy watching him fight.

you know nothing about MMA. stop breathing

Chucxone
11-30-2009, 10:03 PM
Why does anyone even give a shit about CanderDuck or CanDuckson or whatever. He's been fed C-level fighters his entire UFC career and he does nothing but counter-punch. If he actually engaged I might enjoy watching him fight.


say what....? I suppose you make a good point, Rich, Hendo and the rest of the c-level cans never tested anyone. lol

Mr. Thick Dick
11-30-2009, 10:09 PM
say what....? I suppose you make a good point, Rich, Hendo and the rest of the c-level cans never tested anyone. lol
Rich is exactly the same, he made a name for himself by fighting guys like Ken Shamrock and Nate Quarry.

Hendo is way past his prime and if he would have fought CanderDuck in Pride he would have smashed him.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 10:09 PM
Rich is exactly the same, he made a name for himself by fighting guys like Frank Shamrock and Nate Quarry.

Hendo is way past his prime and if he would have fought CanderDuck in Pride he would have smashed him.

:lmao:

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 10:10 PM
lol, anderson would've beat up hendo even quicker cuz pride refs would've stood them up after 30 seconds

Mr. Thick Dick
11-30-2009, 10:12 PM
Hendo would have been a roided up monster and would have caved in CanderDuck's face with GnP.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 10:13 PM
lol just lol

Buckner1986
11-30-2009, 10:46 PM
I'm planning a trip to the city so that I can kidnap solid, blindfold him with dental floss, and carve 'lol just lol' in his forehead with a hot knife.

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 10:51 PM
someone's been gotten to

WAR RANDLEMAN!
11-30-2009, 10:52 PM
<table style="margin-top: 10px;" id="MPT" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="AC Small VA Brb" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223); width: 95px;">Kendall Grove
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/101.jpg</td> <td class="AC Brb">http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/vs_hot.gif</td> <td class="Small AC VA Brb" style="width: 95px;">Jake Rosholt
http://www.mmaplayground.com/i/fighters/374.jpg</td> <td class="AC PlPr Brb WasRight">Kendall Grove
Fight ends in round 2
Submission / Tapout</td> <td class="AC PlPr Wbg Brb">Kendall Grove
Fight ends in round 1
Submission / Tapout</td> <td class="AC Wbg BlBr">14</td></tr></tbody></table>

WAR OSCAR YEE
11-30-2009, 10:54 PM
lol

HHJ
12-01-2009, 02:15 PM
you're picking belfort over him and then after he loses, you're just gonna say belfort sucks, he's still mentally broken from his sister dying 10 years ago

war kendall grove sorridbaby