Kongo Vs Mir

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

lol

come to think of it, i might just take kongo over mir. mir has been talking about every opponent except the one he's scheduled to fight

[stulecanem]

who do you think makes it the finals of tuf, i think it's gonna be marcus and schaub

fo sho.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I hope it's marcus and schaub just because I'm sick of having to see nelson's disgusting stomach jiggling around

[CensoredToezFlava]

lol, kenny florian left him after ufc 101, i heard

now he trains with gsp in montreal

Where is Kenny training now? If it's just with his brother, Guida is going to decision hump the shit out of him.

[Capn]

take 5 knees to the body to land one glancing hook to the face, not a good trade off imo

he must have trained with Franklin for that fight.

[stulecanem]

come to think of it, i might just take kongo over mir. mir has been talking about every opponent except the one he's scheduled to fight

Good call.

Here's what we know.

1. Mir has shit takedowns
2. Kongo has developed a very nice sprawl
3. Mir quits the moment he gets hit
4. Kong will most assuredly hit Mir

Mir loses this one getting exposed badly for a huge can

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Where is Kenny training now? If it's just with his brother, Guida is going to decision hump the shit out of him.

i think he's training with firas zahabi

[stulecanem]

Where is Kenny training now? If it's just with his brother, Guida is going to decision hump the shit out of him.

I think it's just with his brother. I think Kenny's going to be in for a tough night against Guida unless he put on another 10 lbs of muscle.

[CensoredToezFlava]

Mir seems to think he's an elite striker now... May not bode well.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Good call.

Here's what we know.

1. Mir has shit takedowns
2. Kongo has developed a very nice sprawl
3. Mir quits the moment he gets hit
4. Kong will most assuredly hit Mir

Mir loses this one getting exposed badly for a huge can

and mir might be cocky and just stand with him getting ktfo

[TONY BONES]

whatever

kennys gonna kill that leg humping beaner

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

I think it's just with his brother. I think Kenny's going to be in for a tough night against Guida unless he put on another 10 lbs of muscle.

how the fuck do you go from picking kenny over bj to saying he's gonna lose to guida?

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

whatever

kennys gonna kill that leg humping beaner

fuck yeah

kenny by rnc rd 2

[stulecanem]

whatever

kennys gonna kill that leg humping beaner

I hope so. That said is Guida mexican? I don;t think so.

[stulecanem]

how the fuck do you go from picking kenny over bj to saying he's gonna lose to guida?

unbridled and obfuscating hatred for BJ

[stulecanem]

and mir might be cocky and just stand with him getting ktfo

I fucking hope so. He's dumb enough to believe that a staph infected, flu ridden Nog was really a test for his striking so he just might try to stand.

[stulecanem]

There we go, now we are in the right section.

[vegemot]

Oh look it was stoolcannon. What a bell-end.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

frank mir by toe hold ala tank abbott from UFC 47: TANK'S BACK

[vegemot]

If congo had even slightly better ground game, I'd agree that Mir might get exposed, but I think he's just too one dimensional. Mir's wrestling isn't great, but even if he can't get congo down (which isn't especially hard with them big dangly legs), congo's the kind of guy he could pull guard on, and submit effortlessly.

[Chucxone]

come to think of it, i might just take kongo over mir. mir has been talking about every opponent except the one he's scheduled to fight

hes preparing his excuse for losing in advance...i can hear it now "I looked past Kongo thinking about Brock and totally lost focus"

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

lol

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

mir will hit a double leg probably against the cage, pass to side control, boom mount and armbar

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Kongo just hasn't got any fucking wrestling at all, Mir's is not that good but he has a little at least he took tank abbott down in his prime

[RyanMCGTX24]

Mir is going to take Kongo down and submit him in the first round setting up an interim title match up between the winner of velasquez nog.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

rogerio will double for big nog who has been dead since the last Mir fight in the interim title fight and knock Mir the fuck out in 9 seconds in the 1st round

[RyanMCGTX24]

rogerio will double for big nog who has been dead since the last Mir fight in the interim title fight and knock Mir the fuck out in 9 seconds in the 1st round

Yeah I guess a logical MMA debate is impossible now.

Mir who outside of nog posesses some of the best BJJ in the division and is going against a one dimensional striker. The only way Kongo beats him is if he catches him early, otherwise Kongo will be either put to sleep or pounded out,

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Big Nog would ruin Mir if they fought again

[RyanMCGTX24]

Big Nog would ruin Mir if they fought again

I love both fighters, and I won't contest that.

It'll be an interesting ground war, but I got nog taking that one standing and on the ground if he comes in looking like he did against handy.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Nog will rock him with a left right combination that dazes Mir then trip takedown into an anaconda choke over and out

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

randy couture would beat the crap outta frank mir

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Igor Vovchanchyn > Frank Mir

[Chucxone]

randy couture would beat the crap outta frank mir


not sure if you're trolling or not but I disagree. Mir looked good against Nog standing and Randy has no stand up and his ground game is waning. Sadly I think Mir could take him and Randys last fight should be with Coleman, who ironically enough should have his last fight with Randy.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

too bad vovchanchyn wasnt in the UFC would have loved to see him knock that big dumbass sylvia the fuck out

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

not sure if you're trolling or not but I disagree. Mir looked good against Nog standing and Randy has no stand up and his ground game is waning. Sadly I think Mir could take him and Randys last fight should be with Coleman, who ironically enough should have his last fight with Randy.

randy would pound the shit outta him, mir only looked good against nog cuz nog had staph

[stulecanem]

randy couture would beat the crap outta frank mir

Most people would beat mir. Just because he caught an inexperienced brock and beat up a nog who was 1 puke shy of being hospitalized people are on his bandwagon.

His legacy includes subbing a horrendously exposed Tim Sylvia and getting obliterated badly by Brandon Vera.

Mir is one of the worst, most overrated fighters in the HW division and he will be exposed and out of the UFC inside of 1 year.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

he was definitely half dead in the Mir fight and it was the largest part of why Mir won, Mir's striking looked like he learned it from a retarded bum in a kung fu costume

[stulecanem]

he was definitely half dead in the Mir fight and was the largest part of why Mir won, his striking looked like he learned it from a retarded bum in a kung fu costume

Mir's striking is absolutely terrible. He was just beating Nog to the punch but he looked awkward and shitty the entire fight.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i'm taking kongo over mir now

[stulecanem]

i'm taking kongo over mir now

as am I.

Fuck I could be wrong because Kongo isn't exactly a good fighter but he has more heart than Mir.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i recently saw an interview on ufc.com with kongo and he says he wants to shut up big mouth mir

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

and mir woulda probably just quit and fold against cain, kongo actually made it to the final bell

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I hope Kongo KO's Mir with a grounded backfist just as Mir sinks in an omoplata then immediately taps to the hold as Mir comes to and is declared the victor recreating the magic of hughes vs newton

[stulecanem]

and mir woulda probably just quit and fold against cain, kongo actually made it to the final bell

Cain would destroy Mir

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

qft

[AO!]

mir armbar rnd 1

[vincent_vega]

I have Mir Rd1 Sub at the mo but Kongo is sharp on the feet and Mir's wrestling sucks cock.

[Bones of Satan]

If congo had even slightly better ground game, I'd agree that Mir might get exposed, but I think he's just too one dimensional. Mir's wrestling isn't great, but even if he can't get congo down (which isn't especially hard with them big dangly legs), congo's the kind of guy he could pull guard on, and submit effortlessly.

kongo is also dumb enough to go for a takedown

[AO!]

kongo is also dumb enough to go for a takedown

no chance.

[Bones of Satan]

no chance.

he seems to go for the td in every fight... i think it's when he's getting gassed and needs a breather, he even tried to outwrestle cain

[AO!]

he seems to go for the td in every fight... i think it's when he's getting gassed and needs a breather, he even tried to outwrestle cain

not one person had a decent sub game. i will not believe he and his camp are so fucking dumb.

[Bones of Satan]

not one person had a decent sub game. i will not believe he and his camp are so fucking dumb.

might happen... it will be a funny fight

mir is dumb enough to stand with him....... will prolly be rocked.... kongo will then go for a td and some gnp.... get submitted lol...... prolly be a 2 minute fight

[AO!]

might happen... it will be a funny fight

mir is dumb enough to stand with him....... will prolly be rocked.... kongo will then go for a td and some gnp.... get submitted lol...... prolly be a 2 minute fight

mir will try to strike his way inside and drag kongo's ass down. if he eats enough shit on the way in kongo could win, otherwise you're probably right. sub in the first 3 mins.

[vincent_vega]

I'm changing to Kongo by KO. Mir's wrestling is not good enough and Kongo will rape him on the feet.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

kongo 2nd rd tko

[vincent_vega]

Hey solid.

[stulecanem]

kongo 2nd rd tko

this

[___]

Anyone thinking Kongo has a snowball's chance is fucking insane.

[___]

And lol @ Kongo having developed a nice sprawl. I still don't think he's defended a TD.

And even if he does, he'll probably try and take Mir down, for no reason at all.

[stulecanem]

Anyone thinking Kongo has a snowball's chance is fucking insane.

1 week sig bet?

[___]

Definitely.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Hey solid.

herro

[___]

Y'all get too involved in interviews.

[stulecanem]

Definitely.

aight, shit be on yo.

Maybe my Mir hate is clouding my vision, I know Kongo is a turd.

[stulecanem]

Y'all get too involved in interviews.

I havent watched any interviews.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Y'all get too involved in interviews.

i kongo, i shut up big mouth

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

go to ufc.com

[___]

You have the worst TD defense, with little subs against the 2nd best JJ HW in the world with solid TD's.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i no care, i go shut up big mouth with pube haircut, stupid cocky talkshitter

[stulecanem]

You have the worst TD defense, with little subs against the 2nd best JJ HW in the world with solid TD's.

No way Mir is the 2nd best JJ HW in the world and Mir has terrible TD's. His wrestling is awful and he himself has admitted it.

[___]

Well he's been able to take most everyone down.

Name someone not named Nog at HW with better jits.

[stulecanem]

Well he's been able to take most everyone down.

Name someone not named Nog at HW with better jits.

Gonzaga or Werdum both have better Jits.

[___]

Both have better credentials than Nog, that means dick in regards to MMA.

[___]

The best guy Gonzaga has submitted is Justin McCully lol

[Bones of Satan]

gonzaga sucks

[stulecanem]

I'm not arguing that Gonzaga doesn't suck, I just think Mir sucks much worse.

[Bones of Satan]

mir is definitely top 5.

i'd say after werdum, fedor, and nog he's the biggest threat of submitting someone

[___]

Mir has submitted Sylvia, Brock, and Roberto Traven 2 years after he won the Mundials when Mir was a purple belt. hard to say he's a can on the ground.

[stulecanem]

Someone tell me again why Mir is considered a dangerous opponent?


<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="4" frame="void" rules="none"> <colgroup><col width="86"><col width="353"><col width="86"><col width="86"></colgroup> <tbody> <tr> <td align="left" height="32" width="86"> Loss </td> <td align="left" width="353">Brock Lesnar (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522) </td> <td align="left" width="86">TKO (Punches) </td> <td align="left" width="86">destroyed</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Win </td> <td align="left">Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Antonio-Rodrigo-Nogueira-1440) </td> <td align="left">TKO (Punches) </td> <td align="left">Nog rcently hospitalized for Staph</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Win </td> <td align="left">Brock Lesnar (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522) </td> <td align="left">Submission (Kneebar) </td> <td align="left">Getting destroyed pulls off submission after TERRIBLE ref standup</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Win </td> <td align="left">Antoni Hardonk (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Antoni-Hardonk-1518) </td> <td align="left">Submission (Kimura) </td> <td align="left">can</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Loss </td> <td align="left">Brandon Vera (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brandon-Vera-4886) </td> <td align="left">TKO (Punches) </td> <td align="left">Obliterated by a B level fighter</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Win </td> <td align="left">Dan Christison (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dan-Christison-2646) </td> <td align="left">Decision (Unanimous) </td> <td align="left">can</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="47"> Loss </td> <td align="left">Marcio Cruz (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Marcio-Cruz-13976) </td> <td align="left">TKO (Punches and Elbows) </td> <td align="left">LOL</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="47"> Win </td> <td align="left">Tim Sylvia (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Sylvia-1061) </td> <td align="left">Technical Submission (Armbar) </td> <td align="left">horrible can with no sub defense</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17"> Win </td> <td align="left">Wes Sims (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Wes-Sims-2713) </td> <td align="left">KO (Punches) </td> <td align="left">can</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="47"> Win </td> <td align="left">Wes Sims (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Wes-Sims-2713) </td> <td align="left">DQ (Kicking a Downed Opponent) </td> <td align="left">can</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Win </td> <td align="left">David Abbott (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/David-Abbott-110) </td> <td align="left">Submission (Toe Hold) </td> <td align="left">can</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Loss </td> <td align="left">Ian Freeman (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ian-Freeman-242) </td> <td align="left">TKO (Punches) </td> <td align="left">LOL? Yes LOL</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="47"> Win </td> <td align="left">Pete Williams (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Pete-Williams-201) </td> <td align="left">Submission (Shoulder Lock) </td> <td align="left">can</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="32"> Win </td> <td align="left">Roberto Traven (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Roberto-Traven-142) </td> <td align="left">Submission (Armbar) </td> <td align="left">Who?</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="47"> Win </td> <td align="left">Dan Quinn (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dan-Quinn-2583) </td> <td align="left">Submission (Triangle Choke) </td> <td align="left">Stevia?</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" height="17"> Win </td> <td align="left">Jerome Smith (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jerome-Smith-2075) </td> <td align="left">Decision </td> <td align="left">Who?</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

[AO!]

ill take it if he doesnt.

[___]

You wasted a lot of time on what is either a trolling or just retarded post.

[___]

Putting 'who' next to a submission of a Mundials champion is my favorite part.

[stulecanem]

Putting 'who' next to a submission of a Mundials champion is my favorite part.

He's just some turd that no one has ever heard of.

[stulecanem]

I recently watched a video of a fat slob ass roy nelson easily defeating mir in a grappling match.

[stulecanem]

Let's just be clear about Roberto Traven

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr align="center"><td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd" height="30"> Loss </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd"> Elvis Sinosic (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Elvis-Sinosic-281) </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">KO (Punch) </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd"> WR 1 - Warriors Realm 1 (http://www.sherdog.com/events/WR-1-Warriors-Realm-1-2534) </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">9/3/2004 </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">2 </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">0:35 </td></tr></tbody></table>

/discussion

[___]

I thought we were talking about ground games? I don't see what a jits-only guy getting KO'd by a can has to do with Mir submitting a Mundials champ. Oh, nothing.

[___]

Honestly stool you doing this every time a fighter you hate fights is more annoying than anything mante does. Every time I tell you how stupid you are, and every time after the fight you say 'oh, I just hate him.'

Idiocy at its finest.

[stulecanem]

Honestly stool you doing this every time a fighter you hate fights is more annoying than anything mante does. Every time I tell you how stupid you are, and every time after the fight you say 'oh, I just hate him.'

Idiocy at its finest.

This is different because Mir is actually a piece of shit can. This isn't remotely close to me arguing about BJ who is the best in the world at his weight.

Mir absolutely sucks in every way possible.

[stulecanem]

You're using the example that he caught a mundials champ and I can turn right around and show fat roy nelson out grappling him.

[AO!]

what are you solid? fighters never improve? i hope mir beats kongo on the feet.

[___]

This is different because Mir is actually a piece of shit can.

ok

[stulecanem]

what are you solid? fighters never improve? i hope mir beats kongo on the feet.

What exactly besides one fight are you using as an example to show Mir's improvement?

In his last 3 fights he was being destroyed by lesnar when the ref made a bad standup. He managed to catch a very green lesnar in a nice leglock.

He then beat a half dead nog and then got destroyed by Lesnar again this time without a ref to save him.

Prior to that he beat a shit ass hardonk and was absolutely humiliated by Vera right before that.

He's shown nothing to indicate that he's any different than the B level can he's always been.

[AO!]

What exactly besides one fight are you using as an example to show Mir's improvement?

In his last 3 fights he was being destroyed by lesnar when the ref made a bad standup. He managed to catch a very green lesnar in a nice leglock.

He then beat a half dead nog and then got destroyed by Lesnar again this time without a ref to save him.

Prior to that he beat a shit ass hardonk and was absolutely humiliated by Vera right before that.

He's shown nothing to indicate that he's any different than the B level can he's always been.

his standup looked 9 times better the last few fights. his cardio looked a lot better also. i find it hilarious you think mir sucks because other people beat him. they factor into the equation too lol.

[stulecanem]

ok

It's true. I've admitted in the past that my hatred for BJ made me make stupid picks and I've since admitted that BJ is absolutely the best in the world at 155.

Mir is nowhere near that class of fighter.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

what are you solid? fighters never improve? i hope mir beats kongo on the feet.

lol just fucking lol

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

his standup looked 9 times better the last few fights. his cardio looked a lot better also. i find it hilarious you think mir sucks because other people beat him. they factor into the equation too lol.

tito's standup would've looked good against nog that night

[stulecanem]

his standup looked 9 times better the last few fights. his cardio looked a lot better also. i find it hilarious you think mir sucks because other people beat him. they factor into the equation too lol.

I think Mir sucks because he sucks.

His cardio looked improved against who? Lesnar? Yeah great cardio.

It looked good against a half dead nog who came right from the hospital to the arena.

[___]

It's true. I've admitted in the past that my hatred for BJ made me make stupid picks and I've since admitted that BJ is absolutely the best in the world at 155.

Mir is nowhere near that class of fighter.

BJ is obviously better than Mir, but the same principle applies.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i don't see mir beating gabriel gonzaga

[AO!]

I think Mir sucks because he sucks.

His cardio looked improved against who? Lesnar? Yeah great cardio.

It looked good against a half dead nog who came right from the hospital to the arena.

nog didnt look that bad. anyway thanks for the trolling. i guess we'll see after the fight. im sure if mir wins it'll be "kongo is a shitty can anyway"

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

nog didnt look that bad. anyway thanks for the trolling. i guess we'll see after the fight. im sure if mir wins it'll be "kongo is a shitty can anyway"

:lmao:

[stulecanem]

BJ is obviously better than Mir, but the same principle applies.

Except then I knew deep down that I was being retarded. This time I'm not, Mir is a can.

He's never won a significant fight against someone who really brought it except Lesnar and that fight should have ended and instead got stood up.

Every other win he has has been against someone who was either a can at the time or has since been exposed as a can.

Nog doesn't count because he was half dead in their fight. The nog who fought Randy was not the same guy who showed up against Mir

[stulecanem]

nog didnt look that bad. anyway thanks for the trolling. i guess we'll see after the fight. im sure if mir wins it'll be "kongo is a shitty can anyway"

lol nog came in on a stretcher.

Kong IS a can. Let's make sure we are 100% clear on that. He is absolutely a 1 dimentional can and beating him proves absolutely nothing.

Mir has nothing to gain and a lot to lose in this fight.

[AO!]

yea thats good.

[___]

Except then I knew deep down that I was being retarded. This time I'm not, Mir is a can.

He's never won a significant fight against someone who really brought it except Lesnar and that fight should have ended and instead got stood up.

Every other win he has has been against someone who was either a can at the time or has since been exposed as a can.

Nog doesn't count because he was half dead in their fight. The nog who fought Randy was not the same guy who showed up against Mir

ok

[stulecanem]

ok

[HOODS]

wig got fucking destroyed in here.

[___]

The same people who claim I get destroyed are the same people I crush at MMAPlayground.

[HOODS]

ive never had an mmaplayground account, not into the whole fantasy sports thing just never appealed to me, just another thing to waste time on that i dont need or want to do.

[___]

Well, I'll start making a log of your shitty picks so I can pwn you ala solid

[Susan]

i say murr.

[HHJ]

i think mur has the advantage but he can still lose

i hope so

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Well, I'll start making a log of your shitty picks so I can pwn you ala solid

asshole

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI0N4FZfhHw

frank mir is a horrible human being

[HOODS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI0N4FZfhHw

frank mir is a horrible human being

sometimes his interviews seem like a heel wrestler promo from the wwe.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

lol, the best part of today's press conference was kongo saying "he's a former HW champ, he did good, i respect him as a fighter but as a person, no. i will not let someone treat me like a piece of shit"

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I hope Kongo forces him to relive that motorcycle crash with his fists saturday night

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i can actually see kongo doing some damage with gnp if he gets on top and manages to avoid getting submitted

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i bet mir would fold the first time he gets punched in the face

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

he usually does

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

after Kongo knocks him out wes sims should come out and finish him off with stomps

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i hope kongo gets all up in his face after the fight too

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

after Kongo knocks him out wes sims should come out and finish him off with stomps

hahaha

[bobby boucher]

i can actually see kongo doing some damage with gnp if he gets on top and manages to *avoid getting submitted

This is the key. Probably not going to happen though.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

kongo is actually a pretty tough guy to finish. the longer the fight goes, the more it favors kongo, imo. i can't see mir lasting 3 rounds against cain, he'd just give up

[bobby boucher]

kongo is actually a pretty tough guy to finish. the longer the fight goes, the more it favors kongo, imo. i can't see mir lasting 3 rounds against cain, he'd just give up

Nobody can doubt Chech's heart after the Valasquez fight. The difference here is that Frank will go for the sub early and often, whereas Cain was going straight GnP against Chech, who has a rock for a head.

[HOODS]

you're spelling his name wrong you dumb shit.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Nobody can doubt Chech's heart after the Valasquez fight. The difference here is that Frank will go for the sub early and often, whereas Cain was going straight GnP against Chech, who has a rock for a head.

mir has been tko'ed due to gnp more times than kongo has been submitted, imo

[HOODS]

I think everyone's hatred for mir is clouding our judgement a bit, now i too am hoping kongo breaks mir's face in horrendously brutal fashion, but if kongo was fighting literally anyone else in the HW division we would be calling him the over-hyped can that he is. He got outpointed and outwrested by herring. Every single person he's beaten is a b or c level fighter. Lets just say if mir wins i wont be surprised, but that isnt saying much. If kongo wins, i will just say that i hope mir's family said their goodbye's because the dude is gonna off himself, legit.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I want Kongo to rock him badly and finish him like this
http://i11.tinypic.com/8a0vki9.gif

[INS_tha_rebel]

Why does everyone hate Murr?

[HOODS]

Why does everyone hate Murr?

r u serious

[INS_tha_rebel]

He shit talks? Who gives a fuck.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Why does everyone hate Murr?

you can't troll me

[INS_tha_rebel]

Not trying to troll. Just don't get why Murr is hated so much.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

:neutral:

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Not trying to troll. Just don't get why Murr is hated so much.

:mantetaco:

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

frank mir has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. at least bj penn is a talented fighter and rashad is a good coach. mir is the scum of the universe

[INS_tha_rebel]

He talks shit and thinks he's better than he is. Still, he's a former UFC HW champ who broke Sylvia's arm in two, tapped out Brock and became the first to KO Nog. And yes I know about Nog's condition going into that fight.

[stretcharmstrong]

if this fight didnt get Kongo pumped up and motivated to win a big fight at all costs, nothing will. i'm going to go ahead and pick him because he seems just smart enough to be willing to learn and evolve as a fighter.

not too mention he is fucking PISSED. and Cain had a hard time taking him down and keeping him there without getting tagged and GnPd. i dont see Mir being able to do better, unless he just pulls guard and scrambles for dear life like he did against Brock the first time.

[INS_tha_rebel]

Scum of the universe is a bit heavy mate. That's why I asked what the Murr hate was all about. To say he doesn't have talent when he has wins over Sylvia, Nog and Brock is a bit far fetched.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

He talks shit and thinks he's better than he is. Still, he's a former UFC HW champ who broke Sylvia's arm in two, tapped out Brock and became the first to KO Nog. And yes I know about Nog's condition going into that fight.

frank's whole career is a fluke and yet he talks like he's god's greatest gift to man

[stretcharmstrong]

Mir is almost as delusional about how good he is, as Diego is about being cool.

[INS_tha_rebel]

So it is the shit talking? Fair enough.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

So it is the shit talking? Fair enough.

i thinks it's the way he goes about it

he does it in the most annoying way possible

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

fuckin philosophical bullshit

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Mir is almost as delusional about how good he is, as Diego is about being cool.

i like diego

[INS_tha_rebel]

fuckin philosophical bullshit

Yeah I see your point there.

[INS_tha_rebel]

Diego may not be cool but he's a top notch fighter. That is unquestionable imo.

[stretcharmstrong]

the thing i think i hate about Frank Mir the most - he acts like he's this highly educated guy that knows everything, but he says "gots" and "nucular".

fagget.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

why isn't diego cool?

YESH

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

the thing i think i hate about Frank Mir the most - he acts like he's this highly educated guy that knows everything, but he says "gots" and "nucular".

fagget.

yeah everytime he opens his mouth, he just comes off as a complete tool

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

i hope kongo takes away his ability to speak

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

mir is going to be typing out his shit talking for future countdown shows on a stephen hawking translator

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

hahaah