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WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 10:52 AM
lol, liddell wins 10 out of 10 times

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 10:58 AM
Winner gets a fight with Mark Coleman or Randy.

b_
12-06-2009, 10:59 AM
i was hoping he was going to tell us the coach was wanderlei, not ortiz

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:00 AM
Honestly I don't care about this one either.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:00 AM
Wand just got to 185 and might do something there, I doubt the UFC would make him go back to 205.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:01 AM
Honestly I don't care about this one either.

Nor do I. But I'll watch because I think they will both be good coaches and entertaining to watch.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:02 AM
Thank God I don't have to watch a season of GSP/Hardy subtitles.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:02 AM
i forgot he's scheduled for bisping to. either way anyone but ortiz would have been great. now we're going to have a whole season of him talking shit.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:04 AM
i forgot he's scheduled for bisping to. either way anyone but ortiz would have been great. now we're going to have a whole season of him talking shit.

Anything has to be better than this last season of TUF. I actually stopped watching about 4 episodes in, and I watch everything MMA related. I even watched Bully Beatdown. :um:

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:04 AM
A WEC TUF would be a fun time, I don't know why they haven't done this yet.

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:10 AM
Anything has to be better than this last season of TUF. I actually stopped watching about 4 episodes in, and I watch everything MMA related. I even watched Bully Beatdown. :um:

I havent watched anything but the fights for 3 seasons now

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:11 AM
A WEC TUF would be a fun time, I don't know why they haven't done this yet.

hell yes, 135ers and 145ers.

Now there are some dudes who would put on some barn burners and make TUF worth watching.

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Anything has to be better than this last season of TUF. I actually stopped watching about 4 episodes in, and I watch everything MMA related. I even watched Bully Beatdown. :um:

Are you kidding? This was probably the second best season. It was a lot better than the last few.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:13 AM
chuck is gonna beat tito's ass again and retire with a win

:cheers:

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:14 AM
A WEC TUF would be a fun time, I don't know why they haven't done this yet.

A good idea, but I'm guessing the reason is lack of depth at those weight classes and that the WEC is on Versus, while the UFC is on Spike.

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:14 AM
chuck is gonna beat tito's ass again and retire with a win

:cheers:

Hopefully retire both of them. I never ever ever ever ever want to see Tito fight again after that last disaster.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:15 AM
Are you kidding? This was probably the second best season. It was a lot better than the last few.

-The skill sets of the participants were shit

-The farce that was the Rampage/Rashad smack talk was pointless

-The fact that the fighters on 'Team Rashad' were actually being coached by Greg Jackson and the fighters on 'Team Rampage' were being coached by someone who doesn't even like to train himself was enough of a putoff by itself.

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:15 AM
-The skill sets of the participants were shit

-The farce that was the Rampage/Rashad smack talk was pointless

-The fact that the fighters on 'Team Rashad' were actually being coached by Greg Jackson and the fighters on 'Team Rampage' were being coached by someone who doesn't even like to train himself was enough of a putoff by itself.

I agree with every point

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:17 AM
wtf is up with marcus jones

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:21 AM
wtf is up with marcus jones

Dude is so disappointing. He's another guy with the physical gifts and no chin. Real bummer.

He'd easily be one of my favorites (well he will be anyway whenever he fights) if he could manage to stick around with a win or two.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:21 AM
marcus should try k1 dynamite. he can be their bob sapp.

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:22 AM
-The skill sets of the participants were shit

-The farce that was the Rampage/Rashad smack talk was pointless

-The fact that the fighters on 'Team Rashad' were actually being coached by Greg Jackson and the fighters on 'Team Rampage' were being coached by someone who doesn't even like to train himself was enough of a putoff by itself.


-The skill sets of the participants were shit

Yes, but it's the best set of participants skill-wise or talent-wise since season 2 (with maybe the comeback one being better, too).


-The farce that was the Rampage/Rashad smack talk was pointless

Yeah - Rampage quit, but maybe he'll be back to get KO'd by Rashad this year

-The fact that the fighters on 'Team Rashad' were actually being coached by Greg Jackson and the fighters on 'Team Rampage' were being coached by someone who doesn't even like to train himself was enough of a putoff by itself.

It wasn't Greg Jackson - it was that other white guy, whose name I forgot, but same thing. I was really disappointed in Rampage this season, so I'll agree with this point.

P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-06-2009, 11:22 AM
cant believe buckner just dissed one of the greaters mma trainers of all time

tiki ghosn

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Dude is so disappointing. He's another guy with the physical gifts and no chin. Real bummer.

He'd easily be one of my favorites (well he will be anyway whenever he fights) if he could manage to stick around with a win or two.

It's not really about his chin - it's about his lack of head movement and his robotic stand-up. Anybody would have gotten dropped with those shots. Yes, I still believe his chin is sub-par, but he shouldn't have been hit with those in the first place.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Dude is so disappointing. He's another guy with the physical gifts and no chin. Real bummer.

He'd easily be one of my favorites (well he will be anyway whenever he fights) if he could manage to stick around with a win or two.

i think if they matched him up with someone like madsen or wren, he woulda won

mitrione was a bad matchup for him

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:24 AM
i think if they matched him up with someone like madsen or wren, he woulda won

mitrione was a bad matchup for him

Yeah I agree. They need to ease him in and build him up a bit. He's only had like 6 fights and he's 35 or 36 years old.

P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-06-2009, 11:25 AM
yeah mitriones chin really helped him out in that fight

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:26 AM
-The skill sets of the participants were shit

Yes, but it's the best set of participants skill-wise or talent-wise since season 2 (with maybe the comeback one being better, too).


-The farce that was the Rampage/Rashad smack talk was pointless

Yeah - Rampage quit, but maybe he'll be back to get KO'd by Rashad this year

-The fact that the fighters on 'Team Rashad' were actually being coached by Greg Jackson and the fighters on 'Team Rampage' were being coached by someone who doesn't even like to train himself was enough of a putoff by itself.

It wasn't Greg Jackson - it was that other white guy, whose name I forgot, but same thing. I was really disappointed in Rampage this season, so I'll agree with this point.

you don't know shit about MMA

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:27 AM
yeah mitriones chin really helped him out in that fight

mitrione is actually a pretty good fighter, he beats mcsweeney in a rematch no doubt

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:27 AM
yeah mitriones chin really helped him out in that fight

I havent seen it is it worth watching?

b_
12-06-2009, 11:27 AM
-The skill sets of the participants were shit

Yes, but it's the best set of participants skill-wise or talent-wise since season 2 (with maybe the comeback one being better, too).


-The farce that was the Rampage/Rashad smack talk was pointless

Yeah - Rampage quit, but maybe he'll be back to get KO'd by Rashad this year

-The fact that the fighters on 'Team Rashad' were actually being coached by Greg Jackson and the fighters on 'Team Rampage' were being coached by someone who doesn't even like to train himself was enough of a putoff by itself.

It wasn't Greg Jackson - it was that other white guy, whose name I forgot, but same thing. I was really disappointed in Rampage this season, so I'll agree with this point.
van arsdale?

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:28 AM
you don't know shit about MMA

LOL - look at little Solid being butthurt when somebody talks about one of his fighters.

Let's make a 6 month AV bet on it, when the fight happens.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:28 AM
he looks like that egyptian olympic wrestler who failed in k-1

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:29 AM
I havent seen it is it worth watching?

it's okay

marcus took him down but matt was able to get back to his feet. his ground game looked improved. both guys were gassed at the end of the 1st. matt ko's marcus with an overhand right like 10 seconds into the 2nd round

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:29 AM
LOL - look at little Solid being butthurt when somebody talks about one of his fighters.

Let's make a 6 month AV bet on it, when the fight happens.

you're fucking on

P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-06-2009, 11:31 AM
I havent seen it is it worth watching?

not if your a big baby fan. i felt pretty shitty watching him lose like that again

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:33 AM
i didn't like them making the jones mitrione fight in the first place. i liked both guys

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:33 AM
van arsdale?

I thought I saw Greg Jackson on one of the first couple of episodes (I quit after episode 4 or so) but I could be wrong.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:33 AM
i hope mitrione gets to rematch that fag mcsweeney

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:33 AM
van arsdale?

Trevor Wittman. I can't find a good picture of him, but he was the small white guy on Team Rashad.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/flocasts-user-videos-images/24913_trevorwittman_1231976328055_m.jpg

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:33 AM
marcus will win so long as he's put up against fellow grapplers or wrestlers

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:34 AM
solid's not going to see his av for a long time.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:34 AM
you guys are fuckin brainwashed

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:34 AM
i hope mitrione gets to rematch that fag mcsweeney

McSweeney will surely drop to 205.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:35 AM
i missed the mcsweeney titties fight, was it any good?

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:36 AM
you guys are fuckin brainwashed

You think that Rampage is going to come back from not training for a year and beat someone who trains at the best camp in the world? Rampage is going to come back looking like Uncle Phil from the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:36 AM
i missed the mcsweeney titties fight, was it any good?

horrible imo

P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-06-2009, 11:36 AM
i missed the mcsweeney titties fight, was it any good?

what do you think?

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:36 AM
reading the pbp's it seems like they both gassed. same with the wren madsen fight. these guys still have no fuckin cardio

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:36 AM
i missed the mcsweeney titties fight, was it any good?

Didn't watch it. I skipped through via the DVR after the Nebraska/Texas game.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:37 AM
You think that Rampage is going to come back from not training for a year and beat someone who trains at the best camp in the world? Rampage is going to come back looking like Uncle Phil from the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

i didn't know rashad trained at black house

stulecanem
12-06-2009, 11:37 AM
most of the HW's they brought in were fat guys.

Titties is a LHW at best. He's what 6 foot 260? He could make 185 for real

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:37 AM
I did stop to watch the uneventful Penn/Sanchez interview. Diego looks like he's 13 years old.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:38 AM
you guys are fuckin brainwashed

oh rampage is going to win. no doubts there.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:38 AM
I did stop to watch the uneventful Penn/Sanchez interview. Diego looks like he's 13 years old.

diego is the man

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:39 AM
i didn't know rashad trained at black house

Black House isn't a training camp. It's a black shed behind Ed Soares' house that he locks all his fighters in.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:39 AM
oh rampage is going to win. no doubts there.

but but but he didn't get into the cage after his fighter lost. he's gonna lose :cumbeard:

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:39 AM
diego is the man

BJ is unbeatable at 155.

P 2 Tha Mofo J
12-06-2009, 11:39 AM
my girlfriend said diego was hot, i was like meh

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:39 AM
Black House isn't a training camp. It's a black shed behind Ed Soares' house that he locks all his fighters in.

gotten to by black house

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:40 AM
I thought I saw Greg Jackson on one of the first couple of episodes (I quit after episode 4 or so) but I could be wrong.

He showed up for McSweeney's and Shaub's fights, but that's about it (because they were already part of Jackson's camp). Mostly it was Trevor Wittman, Mike Van Arsdale, and Rashad doing the coaching. It's still vastly superior to what Rampage did, but it's not like they had Jackson and Winklejohn (the true gurus at that camp) there.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:40 AM
but but but he didn't get into the cage after his fighter lost. he's gonna lose :cumbeard:

all that aside i see quinton in a good position. he doesn't really have anything to lose so he won't be feeling any pressure. rashad is going to be fighting for face and riding on ego all the way to the cage. the over confidence will be his down fall.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:40 AM
BJ is unbeatable at 155.

this is his final test at 155, imo

after that it'll be cans like edgar and gaynard

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:41 AM
all that aside i see quinton in a good position. he doesn't really have anything to lose so he won't be feeling any pressure. rashad is going to be fighting for face and riding on ego all the way to the cage. the over confidence will be his down fall.

page by being a better fighter and not being a sniveling politician faggot

b_
12-06-2009, 11:41 AM
He showed up for McSweeney's and Shaub's fights, but that's about it (because they were already part of Jackson's camp). Mostly it was Trevor Wittman, Mike Van Arsdale, and Rashad doing the coaching. It's still vastly superior to what Rampage did, but it's not like they had Jackson and Winklejohn (the true gurus at that camp) there.

is trevor (lack of)wittman that douche bag that was making up the proverbs?

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:41 AM
He showed up for McSweeney's and Shaub's fights, but that's about it (because they were already part of Jackson's camp). Mostly it was Trevor Wittman, Mike Van Arsdale, and Rashad doing the coaching. It's still vastly superior to what Rampage did, but it's not like they had Jackson and Winklejohn (the true gurus at that camp) there.

It was probably before the McSweeny fight that I saw him since that was the first one.

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:42 AM
you're fucking on

Done - it's in the official bet thread. Don't chicken out when the fight rolls around.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:42 AM
lol, if big country was on rampage's team, there would be the same outcome. the main thing rashad did right was choose the better fighters, you can't turn someone's career around in 6 weeks

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:43 AM
this is his final test at 155, imo

after that it'll be cans like edgar and gaynard

I think he'll fight Maynard and if they can't get anyone else at 155, move back up to 170. But this time fight a contender before he gets GSP.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:43 AM
is trevor (lack of)wittman that douche bag that was making up the proverbs?

that guy comes off as a fuckin tool. he was the one asking roy if he wanted to get knocked out again. roy should punched that little fag right in the face

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:44 AM
I think he'll fight Maynard and if they can't get anyone else at 155, move back up to 170. But this time fight a contender before he gets GSP.

bj isn't beating shit at 170 unless they give him old man hughes

Elk Penis
12-06-2009, 11:44 AM
is trevor (lack of)wittman that douche bag that was making up the proverbs?

He's the small white guy on Rashad's team, the one in this picture:

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0311/4806/tskos_feature.jpg

I can't find many pictures on this guy.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:44 AM
Done - it's in the official bet thread. Don't chicken out when the fight rolls around.

i never do

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 11:46 AM
bj isn't beating shit at 170 unless they give him old man hughes

If he made a conscious effort to gain the 15 lbs. the right way then he would beat most at 170. Eating burritos for 2 weeks straight is not the proper weight gain strategy.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:46 AM
He's the small white guy on Rashad's team, the one in this picture:

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0311/4806/tskos_feature.jpg

I can't find many pictures on this guy.
ya that's him.

"you're the king of the ring. ultimate fighting makes you bling. let your jock string protect your ding ding."

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:49 AM
If he made a conscious effort to gain the 15 lbs. the right way then he would beat most at 170. Eating burritos for 2 weeks straight is not the proper weight gain strategy.

jesus christ

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:49 AM
ya that's him.

"you're the king of the ring. ultimate fighting makes you bling. let your jock string protect your ding ding."

:lmao:

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:50 AM
that fuckin fag was cornering schaub last night and during the intros he spouted some shit too

b_
12-06-2009, 11:51 AM
ya yesterday doesn't matter and don't fear tomorrow. appreciate the present. that's why they call it the present cause it's a gift.

b_
12-06-2009, 11:51 AM
fucking asshat

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 11:55 AM
ahhahahhahahaha

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:13 PM
jesus christ

How can you say that BJ's skill set in a proper 170 lb. body isn't better than most at 170? They're some matchups that probably aren't good for him (Alves, Kos) but the rest aren't anything that would give BJ trouble.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:13 PM
ya yesterday doesn't matter and don't fear tomorrow. appreciate the present. that's why they call it the present cause it's a gift.

LOL. I'm going to use that.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:14 PM
I'm going to tell solid that the next time I see him for the Big Brothers program

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:15 PM
How can you say that BJ's skill set in a proper 170 lb. body isn't better than most at 170? They're some matchups that probably aren't good for him (Alves, Kos) but the rest aren't anything that would give BJ trouble.

woulda coulda shoulda

what if urijah faber was the same size as gsp?

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:15 PM
what if andrei arlovski didn't have a glass chin?

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:18 PM
woulda coulda shoulda

what if urijah faber was the same size as gsp?

what if andrei arlovski didn't have a glass chin?

It's not past tense, bud. I'm saying that if he moved up right now.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:18 PM
if he moved up right now, he'd be destroyed by any top 10 WW

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:19 PM
gsp: lol just lol
kos: would destroy him
alves: destroyed
fitch: lay and pray destruction
hardy: owned
daley: owned by a nig nog

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:20 PM
if he moved up right now, he'd be destroyed by any top 10 WW

You're telling me that Mike Swick would beat BJ? That's laughable.

lol just lol

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:20 PM
the only guys that bj can beat at 170 are old man hughes, midget serra and maybe trigg or baroni or someone like that

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:20 PM
You're telling me that Mike Swick would beat BJ? That's laughable.

lol just lol

where did i say swick was a top 10 WW?

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:21 PM
I think he could defend the takedowns from Fitch, and beat Hardy and Daley on the ground. He'd finish Daley in the 1st.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:21 PM
where did i say swick was a top 10 WW?

Swick is a top 10 welterweight, bud.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:21 PM
lol @ him defending fitch's takedowns

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:22 PM
Swick is a top 10 welterweight, bud.

:lmao:

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:22 PM
even anthony the can johnson would prolly beat bj

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:29 PM
:lmao:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/18/1161355/usat-sbn-november-mma-consensus

<table style="text-align: center;" align="right" border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><th>Rank </th><th> Fighter </th><th> % </th><th> Promotion </th><th> Last Rank </th> </tr> <tr> <td>1</td> <td>Georges St. Pierre</td> <td>100</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2</td> <td>Jon Fitch</td> <td>95</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>2</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3</td> <td>Thiago Alves</td> <td>92</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>3</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4</td> <td>Josh Koscheck</td> <td>83</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>4</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5</td> <td>Mike Swick</td> <td>78</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>5</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6</td> <td>Matt Hughes</td> <td>75</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>6</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7</td> <td>Paulo Thiago</td> <td>54</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>9</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8</td> <td>Carlos Condit</td> <td>50</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9</td> <td>Jake Shields</td> <td>45</td> <td>Strikeforce</td> <td>7</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>Paul Daley</td> <td>42</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>11</td></tr></tbody></table>

ArtardFiesta
12-06-2009, 12:35 PM
the only guys that bj can beat at 170 are old man hughes, midget serra and maybe trigg or baroni or someone like that

Holy shit you are retarded.

Log off immediately before you make yourself look any dumber

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:37 PM
He's just trolling, Artard. Dont' get gotten to.

___
12-06-2009, 12:42 PM
Wand just got to 185 and might do something there, I doubt the UFC would make him go back to 205.

lol


And I like who they picked for a couple reasons. The biggest one being its not going to tie up a fighter or a fight that is important or relevant. After that, Liddell was dead set on having another fight, here's one he can win. Tito getting KO'd is always fun.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:44 PM
lol


And I like who they picked for a couple reasons. The biggest one being its not going to tie up a fighter or a fight that is important or relevant. After that, Liddell was dead set on having another fight, here's one he can win. Tito getting KO'd is always fun.

I didn't necessarily mean that Wand was going to compete for a title, just get a couple of wins and create some good fights.

And any TUF were there isn't a title being held up is good in my eyes.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:46 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/18/1161355/usat-sbn-november-mma-consensus

<table style="text-align: center;" align="right" border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5"><tbody><tr><th>Rank </th><th> Fighter </th><th> % </th><th> Promotion </th><th> Last Rank </th> </tr> <tr> <td>1</td> <td>Georges St. Pierre</td> <td>100</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2</td> <td>Jon Fitch</td> <td>95</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>2</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3</td> <td>Thiago Alves</td> <td>92</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>3</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4</td> <td>Josh Koscheck</td> <td>83</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>4</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5</td> <td>Mike Swick</td> <td>78</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>5</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6</td> <td>Matt Hughes</td> <td>75</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>6</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7</td> <td>Paulo Thiago</td> <td>54</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>9</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8</td> <td>Carlos Condit</td> <td>50</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9</td> <td>Jake Shields</td> <td>45</td> <td>Strikeforce</td> <td>7</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>Paul Daley</td> <td>42</td> <td>UFC</td> <td>11</td></tr></tbody></table>

http://mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/topten.asp?articleid=13&zoneid=15

WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170-pound limit)

#1 Welterweight Fighter in the World: Georges St. Pierre

2. Jon Fitch

3. Thiago Alves

4. Josh Koscheck

5. Matt Hughes

6. Paul Daley

7. Dan Hardy

8. Paulo Thiago

9. Martin Kampmann

10. Carlos Condit

MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings last updated on November 25, 2009

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Holy shit you are retarded.

Log off immediately before you make yourself look any dumber

says the guy who said kenny was gonna beat bj. now apparently, he's a world beater at 170, lol

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:48 PM
wig and me are gonna be talking shit now when bisping beats the shit outta candy

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 12:51 PM
Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings.

Bloody Elbow rankings are a composite of all the top websites (including MMAWeekly) and MMAWeekly is just their staff of writers.

Your source sucks.

ArtardFiesta
12-06-2009, 12:53 PM
says the guy who said kenny was gonna beat bj. now apparently, he's a world beater at 170, lol

I never said hes a world beater, outside of the top 3-4 guys in the division i could see BJ running through everyone else

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:58 PM
I never said hes a world beater, outside of the top 3-4 guys in the division i could see BJ running through everyone else

:lmao:

___
12-06-2009, 12:59 PM
Bend and I were discussing how we wish BJ would move up to 170, title holder or not. So many good fights for him. Only problem is that he won't get paid without a belt.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 12:59 PM
Bloody Elbow rankings are a composite of all the top websites (including MMAWeekly) and MMAWeekly is just their staff of writers.

Your source sucks.

the bloodyelbow rankings are outdated

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 01:01 PM
the bloodyelbow rankings are outdated

He still won't drop out of the top 10.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Bend and I were discussing how we wish BJ would move up to 170, title holder or not. So many good fights for him. Only problem is that he won't get paid without a belt.

gsp would retire him for good
kos would rape him so bad he'd wanna drop down to 145
alves knees him into a living death
dan hardy breaks him mentally and physically
paul daley knocks his ass back to hawaii
fitch will fuck him on the ground until he loves him
crumble johnson rapes him with his 12 inch johnson

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 01:02 PM
He still won't drop out of the top 10.

woulda coulda shoulda

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 01:03 PM
nick diaz would shit all over bj as well

___
12-06-2009, 01:08 PM
The only person that definitely beats him is GSP. He would ABUSE Fitch.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 01:18 PM
The only person that definitely beats him is GSP. He would ABUSE Fitch.

lol just lol

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 01:52 PM
woulda coulda shoulda

won't ----> not past tense

Engrish is not your best subject, IMO.

Shogun Marcus
12-06-2009, 02:20 PM
lol just lol

Not that crazy of an idea. BJ has better hands and would sprawl out of Fitch's TD's more times than not.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Not that crazy of an idea. BJ has better hands and would sprawl out of Fitch's TD's more times than not.

based on what?

Shogun Marcus
12-06-2009, 02:25 PM
based on what?

Because BJ has a good sprawl and it's not like Fitch's is known for his great stand up.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Because BJ has a good sprawl and it's not like Fitch's is known for his great stand up.

what makes you think bj would be able to defend fitch's takedowns?

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:27 PM
Because BJ has a good sprawl and it's not like Fitch's is known for his great stand up.

Please don't cloud this thread with facts. solid likes unfounded speculation and the random use of capitalization.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:27 PM
what makes you think bj would be able to defend fitch's takedowns?

Because BJ has a good sprawl.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:29 PM
Because BJ has a good sprawl.

fitch has good takedowns

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:29 PM
bj has a good sprawl at 155

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-06-2009, 02:29 PM
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2814/schaubnelsonrockinoutb.jpg

Shogun Marcus
12-06-2009, 02:29 PM
what makes you think bj would be able to defend fitch's takedowns?

Did you not read the words good sprawl in my post at all?

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:30 PM
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2814/schaubnelsonrockinoutb.jpg

awesome

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:30 PM
roy nelson schooling frank mir on the ground

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dj5xMeXybs

Shogun Marcus
12-06-2009, 02:31 PM
fitch has good takedowns

Fitch would need to establish some stand up to get BJ to open up. If Fitch is losing the stand up then all he has is takedowns, which BJ would be able to see coming.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:31 PM
fitch has good takedowns

But Fitch got 0 takedowns in 5 rounds vs. GSP while BJ got 1 in 4 rounds vs. GSP?

That's your own MMAth there, bud.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:31 PM
So BJ has better takedowns than Fitch apparently.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:33 PM
But Fitch got 0 takedowns in 5 rounds vs. GSP while BJ got 1 in 4 rounds vs. GSP?

That's your own MMAth there, bud.

lol, bj never took gsp down

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-06-2009, 02:35 PM
I bet roy nelson would KO frank mir standing

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:36 PM
lol, bj never took gsp down

Watch the fight.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:36 PM
I bet roy nelson would KO frank mir standing

fuck yeah

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Watch the fight.

he never took gsp down, you must be retarded

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:38 PM
he never took gsp down, you must be retarded

He did. Go watch the fight.

Shogun Marcus
12-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Watch the fight.

You mean their first fight.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:41 PM
You mean their first fight.

Hopefully he'll watch both. That will give us 35 minutes to post intelligent conversation without him here.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:41 PM
He did. Go watch the fight.

no he didn't

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:41 PM
god i love this smiley...

:iceman::iceman::iceman::iceman::iceman::iceman::i ceman::iceman::iceman::iceman::iceman::iceman::ice man::iceman:

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:41 PM
twincest is a fucking retard

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:42 PM
no he didn't

I don't think you've ever even watched the fight.

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:43 PM
:potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold: :potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold:


solid seems a little gotten to this morning.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:43 PM
I don't think you've ever even watched the fight.

yes i did, gsp dominated him and made him quit like a bitch

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:44 PM
:potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold: :potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold::potogold:


solid seems a little gotten to this morning.

tito decision
Twincest

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:44 PM
:jonjonesunleashingunimitigateddestruction.gif:

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:45 PM
jonjonesdisqualifiedforbeingacheatingnigger.gif

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-06-2009, 02:45 PM
I felt bad for matt hammill he got ruined in about 30 seconds once he got taken down

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-06-2009, 02:46 PM
you could tell jones knew he fucked up before mazzaggatti even comes over it's written on his face

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:46 PM
can't wait for machida to embarass jon jones

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:53 PM
can't wait for machida to embarass jon jones

we'll see, but yes, he should get a shot at the belt in the next year or so.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:53 PM
we'll see, but yes, he should get a shot at the belt in the next year or so.

shogun will rape him something fierce

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:54 PM
RAMPAGE knocks his ass back to the shittiest part of AFRICA

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:54 PM
lil nog puts on a clinic against can jones

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:54 PM
forrest griffin beats jon jones via tried and true

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 02:55 PM
yes i did, gsp dominated him and made him quit like a bitch

But BJ got a takedown during the early rounds.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:55 PM
But BJ got a takedown during the early rounds.

no he didn't

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:56 PM
Rampage would get destroyed by Jones. and i like Rampage (a disclosure that could cause issues around here) and am not trolling either.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Rampage would get destroyed by Jones. and i like Rampage (a disclosure that could cause issues around here) and am not trolling either.

you also think tito is gonna beat chuck

:lmao:

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:57 PM
forrest griffin beats jon jones via tried and true

:roflnut::roflnut::roflnut::roflnut::roflnut:


ahhhh.. the comedic stylings of SAF

Twincest
12-06-2009, 02:58 PM
you also think tito is gonna beat chuck

:lmao:

not really, but it's fun to pull your chain

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 02:58 PM
:roflnut::roflnut::roflnut::roflnut::roflnut:


ahhhh.. the comedic stylings of SAF

forrest griffin choked out world class bjj artist in shogun rua, he's gonna tear jones apart limb to limb

Twincest
12-06-2009, 03:00 PM
forrest griffin choked out world class bjj artist in shogun rua, he's gonna tear jones apart limb to limb

i hope it's next, but doubt Dana would do that to his old pal (Griffin) after what he had to endure against Anderson. Forrest would die so fast it'd be frightening.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 03:02 PM
no he didn't

You might not been able to make it out on the grainy stream on your computer, but from my couch it was a single leg with an ankle pick. You never watched the fight, just admit it.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 03:03 PM
You might not been able to make it out on the grainy stream on your computer, but from my couch it was a single leg with an ankle pick. You never watched the fight, just admit it.

bj never took gsp down. you're delusional

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 03:04 PM
i hope it's next, but doubt Dana would do that to his old pal (Griffin) after what he had to endure against Anderson. Forrest would die so fast it'd be frightening.

lol, jones couldn't finish bonnar so what makes you think he'd finish the guy who beat bonnar twice?

Holic
12-06-2009, 03:08 PM
ufc legends division. its what the people want.

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 03:09 PM
bj never took gsp down. you're delusional

I'm not hearing anything from someone who has never watched the fight.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 03:10 PM
i watched the fight, gsp destroyed him

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 03:13 PM
i watched the fight, gsp destroyed him

No you didn't. Your opinion comes based on what WR said the morning after. Your bedtime is before 10 pm, bud.

snipe
12-06-2009, 03:16 PM
i will not be giving the UFC my rating for this piece of shit

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 03:16 PM
nope

b_
12-06-2009, 03:17 PM
??
http://i49.tinypic.com/2i1mgpt.jpg

b_
12-06-2009, 03:17 PM
other way around it looks

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 03:18 PM
lol at bj grabbing the fence

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-06-2009, 03:18 PM
bj "brendan schaub" penn

Buckner1986
12-06-2009, 03:32 PM
If I wanted WR's regurgitated opinions, solid, I'd ask for them myself. I'd rather hear them from him anyways because he has a much, much, greater MMA knowledge than you do.

Twincest
12-06-2009, 09:44 PM
lol, jones couldn't finish bonnar so what makes you think he'd finish the guy who beat bonnar twice?

Bonnar --despite being fucking ragdolled for 3 rounds-- can take a punch (never knocked unconscious in his entire career). Griffin is another story all together and wouldn't make it outta the 2nd round.

HOODS
12-06-2009, 11:06 PM
there seriously arent words to describe how much i dont care about chuck vs tito 3.

stretcharmstrong
12-07-2009, 01:27 AM
there seriously arent words to describe how much i dont care about chuck vs tito 3.

i'm right there with you.

but what bothers me even more than that, is Tito is about to get a shit-ton more airtime and we have to listen to more of his bullshit.

god i hate that fucking guy. he does not deserve to be in the UFC, much less coaching a season of TUF. i cant wait to see Chuck come back off a year long vacay and KO his giant beachball head. then listen to Tito make excuses about how he has glaucoma and couldnt see the punch coming.

Buckner1986
12-07-2009, 01:36 AM
I refuse to complain about these coaches. As long as they aren't holding a title hostage for the completion of TUF, it's all good.

monodc
12-07-2009, 02:25 AM
Chuck Liddell has a speech impediment. He can't coach anyone.

Tito by UD on the grounds that Tito looked decent against Rashad, Machida and Forrest but Liddell has looked like shit in his last five fights. I think he's shot.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:17 AM
Chuck Liddell has a speech impediment. He can't coach anyone.

Tito by UD on the grounds that Tito looked decent against Rashad, Machida and Forrest but Liddell has looked like shit in his last five fights. I think he's shot.

failure

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:17 AM
there are 4 retards on this forum

ArtardFiesta
12-07-2009, 10:18 AM
There are a lot more than 4.

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:20 AM
the poll suggests 4

Bones of Satan
12-07-2009, 10:30 AM
tito is a fag..... by the end of his contract he'll be fighting on the undercard..... lol he is the new ken shamrock

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:32 AM
tito is a fag..... by the end of his contract he'll be fighting on the undercard..... lol he is the new ken shamrock

liddell ortiz is the new ortiz shamrock, lol

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:32 AM
who the hell is that in your sig

Bones of Satan
12-07-2009, 10:33 AM
stefan sturve

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:39 AM
oh snap

i see him running over buentello

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:40 AM
lol, now there's 5 retards in this retard. 1 super retard if he thinks tito is ko'ing anything

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-07-2009, 10:41 AM
lol at mono trying to pretend he knows the first thing about mma, get back in the terlet you reclusive faggot

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:42 AM
lol

tito has no chance in this fight, he ain't takin chuck down and he ain't knockin him out

chuck all day with overhand rights. chuck will have better cardio as well

Bones of Satan
12-07-2009, 10:43 AM
i'm surprised that 7 years later ufc is still trying to milk this fight.......

now that all 3 are irrelevent and cans...... i see the ufc doing a triple threat with handy, tito and chuck to keep milking it

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-07-2009, 10:43 AM
tito will have a legitimate reason to say he has a cracked skull after this fight

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-07-2009, 10:44 AM
i'm surprised that 7 years later ufc is still trying to milk this fight.......

now that all 3 are irrelevent and cans...... i see the ufc doing a triple threat with handy, tito and chuck to keep milking it

lol

chuck all day

Bones of Satan
12-07-2009, 10:44 AM
tito gave up against a pillow fisted forrest... how pathetic is that

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-07-2009, 10:45 AM
Coleman is going to retire Randy for the final time

Bones of Satan
12-07-2009, 10:54 AM
Coleman is going to retire Randy for the final time

they'll never retire...... the triple thread will probably be handy's idea after coleman beats him

WAR RANDLEMAN!
12-07-2009, 10:57 AM
lol

Boo
12-07-2009, 05:05 PM
waiting for the "don't care" choice

Twincest
12-07-2009, 05:14 PM
i hope chuck wins this 'cause i'm afraid that if he doesn't he'll want to go best of 5.

Albertan
12-07-2009, 05:28 PM
Amazing fuck over Hendo to create the dream matchup I didn't want to see the second time.

Mr. Thick Dick
12-07-2009, 06:05 PM
Tito via KO after Chuck comes to the octagon drunk and starts performing one of his dance routines after the opening bell.

SatNav
12-07-2009, 06:41 PM
I honestly don't care at all aout this fight.

But I hope that Lidderr knocks him the fuck out.


I will not be shocked if Tito uses a brain tumor or some shit as an excuse for losing

Bones of Satan
12-08-2009, 10:51 AM
lol at saf ditching the tito bandwagon

before his fight with forest, saf had tito has the number 3 lhw behind (2. machida, 1. anderson)

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-08-2009, 06:03 PM
lol at saf ditching the tito bandwagon

before his fight with forest, saf had tito has the number 3 lhw behind (2. machida, 1. anderson)

BS

anderson
rampage
mashita

HHJ
12-08-2009, 06:43 PM
Tito cant finish anyone, chuck comes to fight, chuck ko rd 2

HHJ
12-08-2009, 06:44 PM
lol at saf ditching thye tito bandwagon

before his fight with forest, saf had tito has the number 3 lhw behind (2. machida, 1. anderson)

You cant troll ppl with a guy who cant win

Wilma Fingerdo
12-08-2009, 06:45 PM
tito couldn't finish jenna imo

Wilma Fingerdo
12-08-2009, 06:45 PM
Chuck sold his soul to dance with queers imo

Wilma Fingerdo
12-08-2009, 06:46 PM
not sure which is worse really, marrying a whore or dancing with faggots.

Holic
12-08-2009, 09:44 PM
Tito cant finish anyone, chuck comes to fight, chuck ko rd 2

chuck doesn't come to fight, he wins the decision

HHJ
12-09-2009, 03:14 PM
i want to see tito die this time

HHJ
12-09-2009, 03:15 PM
chuck doesn't come to fight, he wins the decision

????????

Holic
12-09-2009, 04:10 PM
????????

meaning he barely needs to train at all to take the decision. tito couldn't keep chuck down if chuck was drunk.

hell he me very well have BEEN drunk in the second fight. No other explanation for Tito doing better

HHJ
12-09-2009, 04:11 PM
nah tito really did work hard for the 2nd fight,i give him credit

godofdixie
12-09-2009, 06:45 PM
i'm personally hoping for a double death ko

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x124/godofdixie/apollocreed.jpg

WAR OSCAR YEE
12-09-2009, 07:24 PM
meaning he barely needs to train at all to take the decision. tito couldn't keep chuck down if chuck was drunk.

hell he me very well have BEEN drunk in the second fight. No other explanation for Tito doing better

lol