K1 GP >> TUF by a mile

[stulecanem]

I just finally finished watching the K1 fights for the first time. I was inspired by some highlights people have posted and Satnaz's thread about starting.

Anyway.........those fights were 1000% better than last night's TUF.

A couple of observations.


Overeem has given up all of his speed and flexibility for muscle. Not working out for him imo
Semmy is part Ogre. After killing his training partner and almost murdering Hari with a jab I'm not sure if he should be allowed to fight humans.

[b_]

I just finally finished watching the K1 fights for the first time. I was inspired by some highlights people have posted and Satnaz's thread about starting.

Anyway.........those fights were 1000% better than last night's TUF.

A couple of observations.


Overeem has given up all of his speed and flexibility for muscle. Not working out for him imo
Semmy is part Ogre. After killing his training partner and almost murdering Hari with a jab I'm not sure if he should be allowed to fight humans.


well well welcome home friend! satnaz too!

[Buckner1986]

I already know who's won, but I haven't watched the fights. Should I watch them?

[Buckner1986]

And fuck TUF.

[b_]

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[stulecanem]

I figured I can start trying to appreciate it even though they don't allow ground fighting. It's nothing near as good as MMA when MMA is at its best but it's still entertaining

[stulecanem]

I already know who's won, but I haven't watched the fights. Should I watch them?

Yes

[stulecanem]

You can get through the lot of them in under an hour

[Buckner1986]

You can get through the lot of them in under an hour

I saw that they were all quick. I watched the first leg of the K-1 GP and was kind of turned off because I think they all went to a decision except one fight.

[stulecanem]

I saw that they were all quick. I watched the first leg of the K-1 GP and was kind of turned off because I think they all went to a decision except one fight.

These were pretty good.

I am learning the rules on the fly though. I guess 2 knockdowns in 1 round = victory and in the final it's 3?

[Buckner1986]

These were pretty good.

I am learning the rules on the fly though. I guess 2 knockdowns in 1 round = victory and in the final it's 3?

I have no idea.

[stulecanem]

b_ help us out here

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

tuf finale was a letdown overall. kimbo houston fight failed to live up to the hype, jones/hamill had a shitty ending and marcus got ko'ed

only thing good about it was roy nelson, he saved the fuckin show

from the entrance, to the kung fu fighter introduction, to knocking out that faggot schaub and rashad's reaction was fucking priceless

[b_]

b_ help us out here

yes that is correct

[b_]

it gets hazy too because sometimes a trip/throw from the clinch counts as a knockdown and (mostly) other times it doesn't.

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

the only thing good about that k-i show was the fact that hari has lost in the finals twice in a row.

[b_]

Rules

Each match is three or five rounds in duration, with each round lasting three minutes.
The match can end by Knockout, Technical Knockout, Decision, Disqualification, Draw or No Contest.
Both the referee and the ring doctor have full authority to stop the fight.
The fight is scored by three judges on a ten-point must system (The winner of each round receives ten points, and the loser receives nine or less. If the round is even, both competitors receive ten points).
If there is a draw after three rounds, the judges' scores are thrown out and one or two extra three-minute rounds are contested. The judges' decision will then come from the scoring of each extra round only. If, after the extra round(s), there is still a draw, the judges will decide a winner based on the flow of the entire match, considering even the slightest difference. A fight can only end in a draw if both fighters go down at the same time and cannot get up, or in the case of accidental injury in the late stages of the contest.
The three-knockdown rule is in effect (three knockdowns in a round results in a technical knockout).
The mandatory eight count is in effect (the referee must count to at least "eight" on all knockdowns).
The standing eight count is in effect (the referee has the right to declare a knockdown on a fighter who appears to be in a dangerous condition to continue in the match).
A fighter can be saved by the bell only in the last round.
In K-1 single elimination tournament matches:
Each match is three rounds in duration.
The three-knockdown rule becomes a two-knockdown rule for all matches except the final.
One or two reserve fights are held prior to the single elimination matches. If for any reason a fighter who wins and advances through the brackets is unable to continue, a reserve match competitor, or the fighter's opponent from the most recent match, takes his place. There are certain exceptions to this rule (i.e. a fighter who lost a match by knockout might not be eligible to replace another fighter).

[stulecanem]

the only thing good about that k-i show was the fact that hari has lost in the finals twice in a row.

Why do you hate him? Is he a bad dude or something?

[b_]

they use cards like in pride as well

[b_]

Why do you hate him? Is he a bad dude or something?

because he's not dutch :snob:

[stulecanem]

Is hari the dude that stomped Bonjasky?

[Buckner1986]

tuf finale was a letdown overall. kimbo houston fight failed to live up to the hype, jones/hamill had a shitty ending and marcus got ko'ed

only thing good about it was roy nelson, he saved the fuckin show

from the entrance, to the kung fu fighter introduction, to knocking out that faggot schaub and rashad's reaction was fucking priceless

I don't think the Houston/Kimbo fight was a complete loss, or even a loss at all. It showed up what we already knew (Kimbo has no cardio and a weight cut is going to be tough) and what some of us hoped (including me), that Kimbo has improved during his stay at ATT.

Marcus is too old and too new at the sport to make a run at the top HWs in the UFC even if he won.

Jones/Hammil was the letdown of the night.

If Roy Nelson can play the heel without causing a legit uproar in the mainstream media and/or with Dana White, then I think he can be good for the UFC. Do I see him beating anyone in title contention right now? Probably not.

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

Why do you hate him? Is he a bad dude or something?

shit like this

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/9064/full08lw3.gif

[b_]

Is hari the dude that stomped Bonjasky?

schilt stopped bonjasky

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

the only thing good about that k-i show was the fact that hari has lost in the finals twice in a row.

fuck yeah

[stulecanem]

I don't think the Houston/Kimbo fight was a complete loss, or even a loss at all. It showed up what we already knew (Kimbo has no cardio and a weight cut is going to be tough) and what some of us hoped (including me), that Kimbo has improved during his stay at ATT.

Marcus is too old and too new at the sport to make a run at the top HWs in the UFC even if he won.

Jones/Hammil was the letdown of the night.

If Roy Nelson can play the heel without causing a legit uproar in the mainstream media and/or with Dana White, then I think he can be good for the UFC. Do I see him beating anyone in title contention right now? Probably not.

I think Roy is going to be a real problem for Dana because he's too good and Dana can't just throw someone at him who is a bad matchup to beat him because he matches up well with most guys. He's gonna have to risk someone of his marquee guys if he wants to see Nelson lose.

I also don't think Jones/Hamil was that big of a letdown. Despite how it ended it was pretty apparent to everyone who won the fight and it was a total domination. It doesn't matter to anyone except Jones's bank account where teh W went.

Agreed with Marcus but I stand by my point that I just want to see good fights so if they can match marcus up with people that will make for good fights then I'm all for it.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Why do you hate him? Is he a bad dude or something?

badr hari is a faggot

[stulecanem]

schilt stopped bonjasky

No I mean like last year or something someone stomped his face after a trip.

[b_]

oh stopped and stomped. nevermind.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

roy is awesome, he's a legit top 10 HW

[stulecanem]

shit like this

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/9064/full08lw3.gif

Ok that's what I was asking b_ if that was him.

Thanks PJ

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

I think Roy is going to be a real problem for Dana because he's too good and Dana can't just throw someone at him who is a bad matchup to beat him because he matches up well with most guys. He's gonna have to risk someone of his marquee guys if he wants to see Nelson lose.

I also don't think Jones/Hamil was that big of a letdown. Despite how it ended it was pretty apparent to everyone who won the fight and it was a total domination. It doesn't matter to anyone except Jones's bank account where teh W went.

Agreed with Marcus but I stand by my point that I just want to see good fights so if they can match marcus up with people that will make for good fights then I'm all for it.

lol except that's prolly what matters most to him

[b_]

No I mean like last year or something someone stomped his face after a trip.

see pj's gif
When his quarterfinal opponent, Jerome Lebanner had to retire from the fight due to his arm injury from 2002 he went on to knock out Gokhan Saki in the semi-final. He then won his 3rd K-1 title after Badr Hari was disqualified for an unsportsmanlike foot stomp on Bonjasky while he was down in the second round. Hari was originally issued a yellow card but was eventually disqualified after the doctor said Remy had double vision, and could not continue.

[Buckner1986]

No I mean like last year or something someone stomped his face after a trip.

Badr Hari got DQ'd for a strikes to a downed opponent lat year.

[Buckner1986]

Oh nevermind.

[flashNsmash]

BS stoppage in the Overeem fight IMO. Also, Mattholio, I don't think Overeem's loss of speed is the root cause of his downfall; he just looks to counter too much and resultantly runs the risk of being swarmed by faster opponents.

[heathenos]

kimboplex > k1 gp

[___]

tuf finale was a letdown overall. kimbo houston fight failed to live up to the hype, jones/hamill had a shitty ending and marcus got ko'ed

only thing good about it was roy nelson, he saved the fuckin show

from the entrance, to the kung fu fighter introduction, to knocking out that faggot schaub and rashad's reaction was fucking priceless

Show last night was great. You're just pissed because your boys got worked. The ending to Jones/Hamill was great, I don't care whose hand was raised.

[___]

Has there been a better nights for throws and slams? The Veach slams were fucking powerful, Kimbo obviously, and Jones' slam, awesome.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

they should feed jon jones to lil nog or shogun

[___]

They aren't going to 'feed' him to anyone. He's a legit prospect and embarrassed the shit out of your sandwich loving faget.

[California Giant]

that kimbo slam was OMG.

[Ravishing "Rick" Tater]

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I am no overeem homer , but that was a pretty piss poor stoppage. Hari probably would have still won but shitty stoppage none the less:boobs:

[California Giant]

they should feed jon jones to lil nog or shogun

Lol you cant call it feeding. He has been OVERLY dominant in his three victories. He has no holes that we have seen and you cannot outright think anyone would destroy him

[Ravishing "Rick" Tater]

Why do you hate him? Is he a bad dude or something?PJ is a sunni ,Badr is a Shiite it is ages long blood feud.

[heathenos]

Lol you cant call it feeding. He has been OVERLY dominant in his three victories. He has no holes that we have seen and you cannot outright think anyone would destroy him

agreed. stop being a troll Sorrid.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

They aren't going to 'feed' him to anyone. He's a legit prospect and embarrassed the shit out of your sandwich loving faget.

they're gonna feed him to lil nog, who's gonna KO him worse than luiz cane

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Lol you cant call it feeding. He has been OVERLY dominant in his three victories. He has no holes that we have seen and you cannot outright think anyone would destroy him

shogun would retire that overhyped can

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

this is why u cant take solid seriously ever

[___]

But if I give legit points, he comes back with something that makes even less since, which is always fun.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

But if I give legit points, he comes back with something that makes even less since, which is always fun.

i make more since than you

PWNT

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

wig has a sixth since for being gay

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

that tuf finale wasn't terrible but it wasn't amazing either

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

schaub getting schooled was the best part

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

it really was that and the kimboplex

[___]

Solid you're an idiot.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

fuckin marcus jones should fight AA to see who has the worser chin

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

Solid you're an idiot.

gotten to

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9416/shoop.jpg

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/tsuifuku/turk.jpg

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/tsuifuku/turk.jpg

HAAHHAHAAHHA

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5926/lolfish.png

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

hahaha

[Ravishing "Rick" Tater]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/tsuifuku/turk.jpg

:roflnut:

[Tsar]

But if I give legit points, he comes back with something that makes even less since, which is always fun.

lol. yeah, that's pretty much usually the case.

[Tsar]

I think Roy is going to be a real problem for Dana because he's too good and Dana can't just throw someone at him who is a bad matchup to beat him because he matches up well with most guys. He's gonna have to risk someone of his marquee guys if he wants to see Nelson lose.

I also don't think Jones/Hamil was that big of a letdown. Despite how it ended it was pretty apparent to everyone who won the fight and it was a total domination. It doesn't matter to anyone except Jones's bank account where teh W went.

Agreed with Marcus but I stand by my point that I just want to see good fights so if they can match marcus up with people that will make for good fights then I'm all for it.

if i were dana, i'd put him against herring straight away; then bring sylvia back with a one-fight contract. after that, bring in arlovski (one fight contract). i wouldn't make it easy for him, because he's fat and hard to watch.

[Twincest]

I just finally finished watching the K1 fights for the first time. I was inspired by some highlights people have posted and Satnaz's thread about starting.

Anyway.........those fights were 1000% better than last night's TUF.

A couple of observations.


Overeem has given up all of his speed and flexibility for muscle. Not working out for him imo
Semmy is part Ogre. After killing his training partner and almost murdering Hari with a jab I'm not sure if he should be allowed to fight humans.



post of the decade right here. couldn't agree more.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

semmy schilt really is some kind of monster

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

if overeem ended up fighting schilt I have no doubt he would have gotten brutally beaten the fuck out of

[b_]

herring would butcher roy

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

herring would butcher roy

no

[b_]

semmy schilt really is some kind of monster
too bad he sucked so badly in pride

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

too bad he sucked so badly in pride

too bad pride is dead

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

roy nelson gets herring down locks him in the crucifat and it's over in the 1st

[Twincest]

some excellent gifs in this thread.

[snipe]

badr hari is a complete faggot

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i47.tinypic.com/i3tpc9.jpg

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

http://i47.tinypic.com/i3tpc9.jpg

ahahahahah

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i49.tinypic.com/2vns0sk.jpg

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i45.tinypic.com/b8k3t5.jpg

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

awesome

[snipe]

have any gifs of hari owning overeem? haris a faggot but he destroyed overeem

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i48.tinypic.com/315hd13.jpg

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i45.tinypic.com/nfmnb.jpg

[stretcharmstrong]

Hari could have done better. he needs to learn to pick his shots a little better instead of just blazing guns. dude has some serious talent though.

Schilt shouldnt be able to fight in the same weight class as those guys. 6+' taller, and over 50lbs heavier. but i guess thats the deal.

killer jab he dropped Hari with. it was kind of a jab/lead hook hybrid.

[flashNsmash]

PJ is a sunni ,Badr is a Shiite it is ages long blood feud.

anyone with any knowledge of islam knows that the persians are the shiites, bud

[stulecanem]

have any gifs of hari owning overeem? haris a faggot but he destroyed overeem

Overeem has zero speed now with all that bulk. He can barely even throw a punch anymore.

[flashNsmash]

I love how Solid is picking two of the top LHWs on the planet for the past five years to beat a black rando, and everyone is calling him a troll. You guys need to grow up.

[flashNsmash]

Overeem has zero speed now with all that bulk. He can barely even throw a punch anymore.

way to ignore my rebuttal that actually had some insightful commentary, bud

[eatafetus]

way to ignore my rebuttal that actually had some insightful commentary, bud

that's the way it goes around these parts bud

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

lol

[AMERICAN BONES]

K1 is for cans with sloppy striking and glass chins

[___]

AB gets to himself with no effort.

[HOODS]

K1 is for cans with sloppy striking and glass chins

yeah real strikers retire and fight in the main event of a wwe ppv.

PWNED.