Who did you have winning Forrest vs. Rampage?

[nvmeplz]

I had the fight tied at 2 rounds a piece going into the 5th. With Rampage winning 1 and 4 and Griffin winning 2 and 3.

5th round was the fight for either fighter and Forrest won the 5th.

Why is there any controversy? WTF?

[SexeCute]

I had Quinton taking rounds 1, 3, and 4, and Forrest winning round 2 10-8.

[Teedoh74]

10-9 Page
10-8 Forrest
10-9 Page
10-9 Page
10-9 Forrest

Draw

[SexeCute]

10-9 Page
10-8 Forrest
10-9 Page
10-9 Page
10-9 Forrest

Draw

That's exactly what I had. Sure Forrest is the aggressor in most of the fight, but he was getting tagged more than Page was.

I also loved how Forrest would land one punch to Quinton's three punch combination, and Joe Rogan would say stuff like "Oh wow! Forrest with a huge right hand!!!!"

[nvmeplz]

I had Quinton taking rounds 1, 3, and 4, and Forrest winning round 2 10-8.

I just thought the way the fight went after Forrest hurt Page's leg....anytime Forrest worked the leg and had decent combination's the round went to him
Because Page was not that aggressive.

Like I said in another post the fight was tied going into the 5th IMO. Whoever won that round took the fight.

[Iwannafightu2]

10-9 yo momma

[Gedanke]

I scored it just the same as you (Nvmeplz) did, actually. I've seen arguments made that would lend the second round as being 10-8 in favour of Griffin, which is certainly reasonable. I, however, would be hesitant to do so because even though Forrest "dominated" that round virtually entirely, even with full mount the only significant damage he was able to inflict were the leg-kicks prior to the fight actually ending up on the ground. A better example of 10-8 round in a similar situation would have been a la Lytle-Koscheck, where Koscheck effectively controlled positioning as well as did a fair degree of physical damage to Lytle.

The only controversy is created because of overly biased fans who, because of said bias as well as a seeming emotional attachment to fighters, thereby lack the ability to look at it objectively and rationally.

It was a close fight. All this nonsense of "robbery" is just a bunch of butthurt losers that are far too emotionally invested in a particular fighter, which, in this situation, happens to be Quinton Jackson.

[Iwannafightu2]

rampage looked soft like he didnt train hard

[nvmeplz]

rampage looked soft like he didnt train hard

Agreed. He was a fucking beast when he went into the Liddell fight.
Not this one.

[Teedoh74]

Rogans nuthugging was blatant, even Goldy was disagreeing, Rogan commented on giving the third rd to Forrest for the triangle and omaplata attempts.

[PJ III]

page or maybe possibly a draw

[Teedoh74]

rampage looked soft like he didnt train hard

He looked like he was fighting with one leg.

[SexeCute]

Rogans nuthugging was blatant, even Goldy was disagreeing, Rogan commented on giving the third rd to Forrest for the triangle and omaplata attempts.

I guess I am retarded, but I don't favor giving points for submission attempts unless it does some real damage.

[PJ III]

Agreed. He was a fucking beast when he went into the Liddell fight.
Not this one.

you are retarded. the liddell fight was not indicatory of anything besides the fact that chuck got caught early.

[nvmeplz]

Unfortunately I didn't hear alot if any commentating since the guys I was with were high and drunk so they were loud as fuck. :)
As far as I'm concerned it is alot easier to watch a fight when not hearing alot of commentating cause then you can just have your own thoughts about the fight.

[SexeCute]

Unfortunately I didn't hear alot if any commentating since the guys I was with were high and drunk so they were loud as fuck. :)
As far as I'm concerned it is alot easier to watch a fight when not hearing alot of commentating cause then you can just have your own thoughts about the fight.

Joe Rogan gets worse with each event, and his nuthuggery is noticeable from a mile away.

[Bobby Curls]

There's controversy 'cause it was an upset. Forrest won that fight.

[Gedanke]

I guess I am retarded, but I don't favor giving points for submission attempts unless it does some real damage.

I tend to disagree with that. Based on the scoring system - striking, grappling, aggression and control - a (relatively) close submission attempt does fall under two of those categories (obviously, grappling and aggression).

I don't see why you wouldn't score points for something like that when effective takedowns also seem to count as well. Now, if you are of the opinion that takedowns shouldn't count either, disregard that point.

[nvmeplz]

you are retarded. the liddell fight was not indicatory of anything besides the fact that chuck got caught early.

Yeah I know Chuck made a mistake and got caught, but even Rampage said that he will never take that many months off again.

Page was a different fighter in the Liddell fight regardless.

Yay for being retarted.

[Buckner1986]

Unfortunately I didn't hear alot if any commentating since the guys I was with were high and drunk so they were loud as fuck. :)
As far as I'm concerned it is alot easier to watch a fight when not hearing alot of commentating cause then you can just have your own thoughts about the fight.
I went back and watched rounds 3, 4, and 5 on mute this morning because I like to watch close fights like that without the announcers.

And because of my splitting fucking headache.

I had it 48-47 Forrest.

[nvmeplz]

Joe Rogan gets worse with each event, and his nuthuggery is noticeable from a mile away.

He is just one of us though....a fan. It wouldn't be easy for you not to root for The Pitbull.

[Buckner1986]

He is just one of us though....a fan. It wouldn't be easy for you not to root for The Pitbull.

And you have to give him props for the "goat's vagina" line.

[nvmeplz]

And you have to give him props for the "goat's vagina" line.

Exactly, we were all dying of laughing after that shit.

[SexeCute]

He is just one of us though....a fan. It wouldn't be easy for you not to root for The Pitbull.

That's why I don't do professional commentary though.

Not only that, but even if it is one of my favorite fighters I know when they're losing. Joe Rogan on the other hand is paid to give legit commentary and he fails to do so. Instead he sits there talking like an idiot about world class BJJ and how his favorite fighter is probably winning.

[nvmeplz]

That's why I don't do professional commentary though.

Not only that, but even if it is one of my favorite fighters I know when they're losing. Joe Rogan on the other hand is paid to give legit commentary and he fails to do so. Instead he sits there talking like an idiot about world class BJJ and how his favorite fighter is probably winning.

Stop crying....haha....Forrest won 3 rounds, Page took 2. Page had his chance in the 5th to win.

[HHJ]

Forrest pretty much had 3 rounds in the bag imo

[SexeCute]

Stop crying....haha....Forrest won 3 rounds, Page took 2. Page had his chance in the 5th to win.

Wait, so we went from talking about Joe Rogan, to you accusing me of crying about the fight outcome? Are you fucking retarded, or severely idiotic?

[nvmeplz]

Wait, so we went from talking about Joe Rogan, to you accusing me of crying about the fight outcome? Are you fucking retarded, or severely idiotic?

Calm down. Joe Rogan's commentating did not decide the fight.

Fuck I am an idiot.

[El Duce]

Rampage won that fight, a draw at the very least.

[Saska]

I thought Forrest won although he didn't win by the margins that the judges had. Page just didn't do enough.

[California Giant]

Rampage lost that fight, a draw at the very best.*

agreed

[Nutstache]

I didn't see the fight.

Doesn't this thread (and all the similar threads at other offshoot boards) simply demonstate that the fight was razor close?

Isn't it always the case in razor close decisions that people accuse Dana of fixing the fights, the refs being crooked, and lots of butt-hurt nuthuggers weep away thier pain on sites lilke these?

Bottom line, in good, close fights, 50% of the people will be unhappy.

[The Deadman]

That's exactly what I had. Sure Forrest is the aggressor in most of the fight, but he was getting tagged more than Page was.

I also loved how Forrest would land one punch to Quinton's three punch combination, and Joe Rogan would say stuff like "Oh wow! Forrest with a huge right hand!!!!"

He also said Forrest was winning the fight during the 3rd round. LAWL

[The Deadman]

I had it

10-9 Page
10-9 Forrest
10-9 Page
10-9 Page
10-9 Forrest

Even with the 10-8 that fight was a draw

[California Giant]

He also said Forrest was winning the fight during the 3rd round. LAWL
10-9
8-10
------
18-19 (he was winning the fight during the third)

[Polish Strong Man Can]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=13575

Fucking crybaby

[gumby]

He believes Jackson won the third and fourth rounds on 10-9 scores, though he said Griffin deserved a 10-8 second round and a 10-9 fifth. That comes out to a 47-46 win for Jackson.

[Elk Penis]

It was a draw. I had it the same as Teedoh:

10-9 Page
10-8 Forrest
10-9 Page
10-9 Page
10-9 Forrest

So did Fight Metric, who breaks it down punch by punch, kick by kick, takedown by takedown, and submission attempt (and escape) by submission attempt:

http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Griffin-Rampage.html

[4fifteen]

UFC 86: Jackson v. Griffin
Forrest Griffin W 5 Quinton Jackson
CompuStrike Round-by-Round Stats

Inside the Numbers: Griffin was clearly the busier fighter overall, throwing 268 more total strikes than Jackson. Jackson was more efficient (and landed the harder shots), landing 49% of his total strikes to 33% for Griffin. Jackson had a 67-48 edge in arm strikes landed, 64 of which were power strikes to 47 for Griffin.

Griffin had the advantage in the ground game. He had a 46-14 edge in ground strikes landed, bolstered by a 44-0 edge in round two. In fact, Jackson did not land a single strike the entire five minutes after absorbing a numbing leg kick two minutes into the round. Griffin also had four submission attempts and registered two dominant positions.

Griffin’s huge round two was the difference in the fight.

Final Stats


Griffin Jackson
145/441 Total Strikes Landed/Thrown 84/173
33% Percentage 49%

48/247 Total Arm Strikes Landed/Thrown 67/141
19% Percentage 48%

[4fifteen]

I picked Rampage on MMAPG, btw.

10-9 Rampage
10-8 Forrest
10-9 Forrest
10-9 Rampage
10-9 Forrest

[Lubaolong]

I thought it might be a draw (the best case scenario for Rampage), but I can totally see giving it to Forrest.

[Richard720]

Anywhere from 48-46 Forrest to 48-47 Rampage is reasonable in my opinion, but the way I saw it was 48-46 Forrest with Forrest winning rounds 2, 3 and 5 and winning round 2 by a score of 10-8.

[Bang Bang]

first time I saw it I went against everything rogan said so I had rampage winning it


on the return viewin he didnt do enough, it was close but I give the CLOSE victory to forrest

[Albertan]

I have rampage via the first, third and 4th. I have no problem with him losing a tight decision however the judges did not do their fucking job Page could not win this fight by decision via dirty judges.

[bobby boucher]

Forrest has a lot of scar tissue over both eyes. ~ JR

[Bones of Satan]

the fight was rigged imo, 2 of the judges gave forrest round 1 for fucksakes

[Raymundo]

I thought it was a draw or spilt for Page. I cant beleave they gave Forrest 10-9 in the first. WTF??

[kakashi]

I have Rampage winning

Forrest "outmoved" him though, he created an illusion with his monkey style

[Forklift]

I honestly had Forrest winning the fight by a very slim margin, but don't have a problem with those who feel that Rampage won. What I don't understand is people throwing a fit who feel that Rampage somehow obviously won the fight, and that there is no legitimate argument for Forrest.

Hell of a fight, though.