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SexeCute
04-18-2010, 12:28 PM
Who else is loving this? This guy was considered a top p4p fighter by some of you who lack intelligence and then he decides to go and get dominated by some wrestler.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/11266-StrikeforceKingMo-263.jpg

ArtardFiesta
04-18-2010, 12:39 PM
He's the money weight champ

Buckner1986
04-18-2010, 12:49 PM
King Mo is a little more than 'some wrestler', but yeah, Mousasi even looked outmatched standing up.

stretcharmstrong
04-18-2010, 01:03 PM
Mousasi had that fight one one a few different occasions and just choked. fuck King Mo, he looked terrible. he was getting beat the fuck up from the bottom. after round 2 i though Mousasi had it in the bag, then he went out there and flopped on his back like a fish. at one point, i swear he was trying to go to sleep.

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:12 PM
I think Mo should get some credit, rather than just shitting on Mousasi. Racist fucks.

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:22 PM
I think Mo should get some credit, rather than just shitting on Mousasi. Racist fucks.

Yeah, because Mo was just destroying top ranked fighters before this. :pomlnut:

Buckner1986
04-18-2010, 01:23 PM
I thought the fight was over after Mo got his eye damn near closed up in the 1st. And then I realized Mousasi was completely gassed in the 2nd round.

Very biased commentating by the Strikeforce guys. All they were talking about in the 2nd round was how tired Mo was going to be from having top position and punching Mousasi.

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:25 PM
Yeah, because Mo was just destroying top ranked fighters before this. :pomlnut:

He has been in mma less than 2 years. Mousasi is legit and he just beat him.

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:29 PM
He has been in mma less than 2 years. Mousasi is legit and he just beat him.

King Mo wouldn't last against UFC fighters. :potogold:

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:32 PM
King Mo wouldn't last against UFC fighters. :potogold:

He could out wrestle anyone in the division. He would have at least a chance against most.

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:34 PM
Just like how you thought Hendo would beat Shields? ZING

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:35 PM
Quit with the tangents, faggot.

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:39 PM
I still love you, even though you like mediocre fighters. Out of everyone on this forum, I know what it's like to like a fighter that will never be relevant.

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:40 PM
I would punch the cheeseburger out of your mouth.

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:42 PM
I would punch the cheeseburger out of your mouth.

I don't even eat that many cheeseburgers. I did have one at the Brewers/Cardinals game, but other than that I avoid that. Give me some steak or chicken any day, son.

Buckner1986
04-18-2010, 01:45 PM
You are supposed to eat hot dogs at baseball games, faget.

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:46 PM
Hot dogs are disgusting, homo.

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 01:46 PM
Hot Dogs have many essential vitamins and nutrients

SexeCute
04-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Hot Dogs have many essential vitamins and nutrients

Name one. You can't can you?

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Brats, soft pretzels, and nachos.

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 01:48 PM
Name one. You can't can you?

meat

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 01:49 PM
or something meat like anyway

Buckner1986
04-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Name one. You can't can you?

Hot dogs are packed with 700% of your suggested daily intake of sodium.

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:50 PM
I only eat hotdogs that have chili and cheese on them.

Buckner1986
04-18-2010, 01:51 PM
I only eat hot dogs that are boiled in dirty water.

CensoredToezFlava
04-18-2010, 01:52 PM
Buckner makes hotdogs for his kids in their bathwater.

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 01:54 PM
lol @ cozy for thinking buckner would cook for his kids

Buckner1986
04-18-2010, 01:55 PM
The microwave is cooking, right?

Gasmasker
04-18-2010, 02:11 PM
Buckner makes hotdogs for his kids in their bathwater.

it's okay, they're pre-cooked

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 02:12 PM
Buckner dumps cereal in the tub with his kids and hands them a spoon

Gasmasker
04-18-2010, 02:13 PM
didn't really care who won this fight but as it went on I couldn't help but start pulling for Mo, eye swollen shut, exhausted, but he kept coming

Gasmasker
04-18-2010, 02:14 PM
Buckner dumps cereal in the tub with his kids and hands them a spoon

the fuck they need a spoon for?

ArtardFiesta
04-18-2010, 02:17 PM
He has been in mma less than 2 years. Mousasi is legit and he just beat him.

Mousasi is like Fedor and has a good record but all he has done his entire career is beat a bunch of cans.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 04:05 PM
well it's about time

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:16 PM
Mousasi had that fight one one a few different occasions and just choked. fuck King Mo, he looked terrible. he was getting beat the fuck up from the bottom. after round 2 i though Mousasi had it in the bag, then he went out there and flopped on his back like a fish. at one point, i swear he was trying to go to sleep.

yeah, I thought he was looking to wait for him to gas and then attack. He forgot about the second part for four rounds.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:19 PM
Mousasi is way fucking overrated and has been for awhile

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:20 PM
I thought the fight was over after Mo got his eye damn near closed up in the 1st. And then I realized Mousasi was completely gassed in the 2nd round.

Very biased commentating by the Strikeforce guys. All they were talking about in the 2nd round was how tired Mo was going to be from having top position and punching Mousasi.

he had me fooled too. I thought it was a matter of time before he began his attack. I'm still not sure he was gassed to be honest. Injured maybe. I didn't notice him heavy breathing. Of course after not too long I was completely disinterested.

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:22 PM
yeah, I thought he was looking to wait for him to gas and then attack. He forgot about the second part for four rounds.

it was a good gameplan,i just think mousasi understimated how much heart mo had,the motherfucker KEPT coming even tho he was tired,he didnt count on that

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:23 PM
Mo was winning the striking exchanges later too

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:24 PM
he was the agressor,i think mousasi was a better striker but he didnt let go of his hands,spent most of the time defending,and in the later rds when he got tired,he actually took some big shots.The guys got a chin

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:25 PM
I think he coasted way too much. Waving Mo in, wasting energy needlessly striking from the bottom. By the time Mo began to get tired Mousasi was tired too

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:25 PM
it was a good gameplan,i just think mousasi understimated how much heart mo had,the motherfucker KEPT coming even tho he was tired,he didnt count on that

Yeah, Mo has heart for sure. He feeling worse today than Gay with that growth where his eye supposed to be.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:26 PM
he immediately flew to california to pop bottles with jimmy ambriz and mante brought him some buffalo wings on the house

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:26 PM
he looked like he was going to keel over when they were interviewing him

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:26 PM
mo proved himself

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:27 PM
he immediately flew to california to pop bottles with jimmy ambriz and mante brought him some buffalo wings on the house

ahahah we need the pics of this event

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I think he coasted way too much. Waving Mo in, wasting energy needlessly striking from the bottom. By the time Mo began to get tired Mousasi was tired too

i thought the strikes from the bottom were really good,he shoulda done that alot more,get both eyes shut

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:28 PM
they were effective from the bottom. more so than most peoples.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:29 PM
was I the only one that noticed Shields' striking is about as good as Aoki's

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:29 PM
i thought the strikes from the bottom were really good,he shoulda done that alot more,get both eyes shut

no doubt he landed some good shots but I think he spent too much time doing it and losing rounds being content to just do that

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:32 PM
was I the only one that noticed Shields' striking is about as good as Aoki's

yeah he has baby punches,but he still couldve finished hendo cos hendo couldnt defend,there were moments in the 2nd rd where the ref couldve stopped it

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:32 PM
if you looked at the stats after the fight, Mousasi landed far more strikes and threw far more. I think that confirms lay and pray on the part of the king.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:33 PM
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Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:33 PM
yeah he has baby punches,but he still couldve finished hendo cos hendo couldnt defend,there were moments in the 2nd rd where the ref couldve stopped it

stopping a fight for fear of slight bruising on the fighters arms the next day will hopefully never become a trend.

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:34 PM
yeah but hendo was just flopping around not bothering to block like 80 punches,the ref has to do something

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:37 PM
I was impressed with how Shields was able to maintain control but I don't think the ref actually has to do anything. I think Shields should have upped his aggression. Or actually commit to a sub.

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:38 PM
thought it would be kind of cool to hear someone's corner screaming "FLOP AROUND, FLOP AROUND NOW!! NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE FLOP!! NICE!!"

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:38 PM
unfortunatley thats what shield won t do,hes shown that he will just grind out a decision like arona and jon fitch before him

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:39 PM
thought it would be kind of cool to hear someone's corner screaming "FLOP AROUND, FLOP AROUND NOW!! NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE FLOP!! NICE!!"

:pomlnut:

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:39 PM
he is slightly more exciting than those two. I'll give him that.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Jacare would beat Shields' ass imo

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:40 PM
this fight reminded me of nate vs teh sonnen

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Jacare would beat Shields' ass imo

indeed he would constantly threaten where shields likes to work

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:41 PM
I'd say Jacare has a striking advantage and grappling advantage, I don't see how Shields wins

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:42 PM
I think Jacare should be next. He's done enough to warrant a SF title fight. He'd take it too.

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:43 PM
indeed,im a huge fan and would like to see it

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-18-2010, 05:44 PM
people will tune in to see Shields lose, nobody fucking likes that guy and who can blame them

HHJ
04-18-2010, 05:44 PM
also they need to bring in zelg galesic to make things interesting

Scorpipede
04-18-2010, 05:47 PM
that's why I watch Shields fight at all.

HOODS
04-18-2010, 09:08 PM
mousasi just layed on his back that shit was fucking frustrating and boring to watch. Go for a fucking submission, even if he failed and mo got better position its not like he would have been able to do anything with it. Mo doesnt even know what a submission is. Watching that shit made no sense to me.

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 09:26 PM
mousasi just layed on his back that shit was fucking frustrating and boring to watch. Go for a fucking submission, even if he failed and mo got better position its not like he would have been able to do anything with it. Mo doesnt even know what a submission is. Watching that shit made no sense to me.

A couple of times it looked like he was going to threaten with one and then he decided that shitty hammerfists from the bottom were a better way to go

HendoStu
04-18-2010, 09:28 PM
They were as effective as strikes from the bottom will be but no one has ever won a fight due to hammerfists from the bottom. I'm not really sure why Mousasi felt that would suddenly change last night

snipe
04-18-2010, 09:30 PM
also they need to bring in zelg galesic to make things interesting

agreed

snipe
04-18-2010, 09:31 PM
outside of being a boring worthless faggot why else do people hate jake shields? im not familiar with him.

while im on topic, i probably wont even tune in to see him lose, because he is not interesting, at all

JihadMeAtHello
04-18-2010, 09:35 PM
outside of being a boring worthless faggot why else do people hate jake shields? im not familiar with him.

while im on topic, i probably wont even tune in to see him lose, because he is not interesting, at all

He's very cocky and proud of being boring

snipe
04-18-2010, 09:36 PM
what a faggot

JihadMeAtHello
04-18-2010, 09:48 PM
And he's covered in acne

Demon Cobras
04-19-2010, 05:27 PM
He could out wrestle anyone in the division. He would have at least a chance against most.

Rashad would out wrestle Mo all day. The UFC's bottom tier of LHW's would destroy Mo, especially after what I saw Saturday.

HendoStu
04-19-2010, 05:30 PM
Mo would outwrestle guys until his tank runs out, I don't know if he could keep it up against a decent wrestler after that. Also anyone with subs from the bottom should beat him easily

Bones of Satan
04-19-2010, 05:31 PM
Rashad would out wrestle Mo all day. The UFC's bottom tier of LHW's would destroy Mo, especially after what I saw Saturday.

LOL just lol

He is a former three-time U.S. Senior National Wrestling Champion, and a former NCAA National collegiate wrestling champion with Oklahoma State University.

Bones of Satan
04-19-2010, 05:31 PM
rashad and rampage are both afraid of fighting king mo.... the guy is basically a lhw version of lesner

stretcharmstrong
04-19-2010, 06:19 PM
Zelg Galesic is a fucking savage. if that dude keeps improving his TD defense and subs, he's going to be knocking some people's fucking teeth out.

they need to setup a fight between him and Manhoef.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 06:29 PM
plus his happy go lucky personality makes him impossible to dislike,hed go over real big here if he can rack up some wins

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-19-2010, 06:32 PM
his loss to makoto takimoto fills me with doubt concerning his future

HHJ
04-19-2010, 06:35 PM
mousasi was a noob and makato had a gi

thats aite dude thats aite
even lesnar lost to a can like frank mir many moons ago

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-19-2010, 06:40 PM
can you ever recover from having your leg broken 4 times by Sakuraba in the same fight though

stretcharmstrong
04-19-2010, 06:46 PM
he could benefit from proper matchmaking. i would rather see a guy like Zelg Galesic, who is a master of his craft beat up bums than Kimbo Slice. maybe Zelg can be that hat wearer in SF.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 06:50 PM
can you ever recover from having your leg broken 4 times by Sakuraba in the same fight though

its sakuraba,man the gracie hunter

god saw fit to create a miracle,did you not listen to the ICP?

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:14 PM
LOL just lol

He is a former three-time U.S. Senior National Wrestling Champion, and a former NCAA National collegiate wrestling champion with Oklahoma State University.

so?

Nothing i saw on saturday impressed me. His ground and pound was non-existent and couldn't pass guard. He is relatively new to mma, but to say he would beat rashad or any other top tier LHW is stupid. Mousasi just let mo lay on top of him, if mo gets on top of shogun or someone of that caliber hes going to get subbed or reversed quick.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:32 PM
so?

Nothing i saw on saturday impressed me. His ground and pound was non-existent and couldn't pass guard. He is relatively new to mma, but to say he would beat rashad or any other top tier LHW is stupid. Mousasi just let mo lay on top of him, if mo gets on top of shogun or someone of that caliber hes going to get subbed or reversed quick.

id say his heart and power is very impressive

hes basically a lhw lesnar

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:32 PM
altho lesnar has never been pushed as much as mo was in that fight

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:36 PM
hes basically a lhw lesnar

you just really insulted lesnar i hope u understand that.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:37 PM
hes only going to get better,trust me on that

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:37 PM
mousasis a lot better fighter than the guys lesnar fought too

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:38 PM
altho lesnar has never been pushed as much as mo was in that fight

yeah mo was pushed but he just went to his wrestling when he couldn't do anything else, it won him the fight but u cant say u were impressed. I mean he's been wrestling his whole life obviously that shit is like second nature, he couldnt gnp for shit.

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:39 PM
hes only going to get better,trust me on that

he'll eventually run into another big strong wrestler and look lost. Him against rashad, rashad by tko or ko.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-19-2010, 07:41 PM
Mo was winning the striking exchanges in the later rounds as well

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:41 PM
i hate to pull a solid but seriously look at the stats, these are stats from when mosuasi was on his back for 90% of the fight.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/433943/2ymw29e_medium.jpg

Buckner1986
04-19-2010, 07:41 PM
yeah mo was pushed but he just went to his wrestling when he couldn't do anything else, it won him the fight but u cant say u were impressed. I mean he's been wrestling his whole life obviously that shit is like second nature, he couldnt gnp for shit.

You can't fault him for falling back on his base, especially in the last 3 rounds when Mousasi wasn't as active from his back. He might not have passed, but I think he was more comfortable in guard than at side control because he could have taken that quite a few times.

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:41 PM
if someone outstrikes you from his back then something is wrong.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:42 PM
mousasi was good at blocking and mo tried too hard to end it right there and gassed,but the sheer heart it took to keep plugging away for 5 rds took its toll on mousasi and fouled up his gameplan

his camp will get him in the gym,teach him to pace himself

what did you expect? mousais head movement is fantastic and blocking superb,so he couldnt do much damage till the end but he still won

going from mike whitehead to mousasi is a huge jump in competition,but i bet he learned alot from this fight

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-19-2010, 07:42 PM
mousasi lost hoods

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:43 PM
if someone outstrikes you from his back then something is wrong.

yeah but its quite unorthodox to threaten from there and mouasi obviously trained this,when mo was tired and tried to rest,mousasi really put it on him
he mightve gotten the fight stopped on that eye alone,plus all those upkicks

people might be dogging mousasi right now,but i think the only thing he did wrong was have the wrong gameplan

a plan that almost worked

Buckner1986
04-19-2010, 07:43 PM
i hate to pull a solid but seriously look at the stats, these are stats from when mosuasi was on his back for 90% of the fight.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/433943/2ymw29e_medium.jpg

Yeah, but if you look at it from the perspective that Mousasi's strikes were from the bottom and less effective than Lawal's strikes from the top, then I think it's a lot more even.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-19-2010, 07:43 PM
he never fought a wrestler like King Mo and his gameplan of striking from the back while effective for the first 2 rounds wasn't enough to win the fight and he wore himself out doing it imo

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:44 PM
mousasi lost hoods

im well aware, i just hate how wrestling has pretty much taken over mma, it leads to boring fights, i agree with baroni, bring back pride rules and yellow cards.

MEHT TRALER FAGIT
04-19-2010, 07:45 PM
PRIDE had it's fair share of boring ass fights as well

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:46 PM
but mo didnt stall
he was always working,even if mousasi blocked alot of them

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:46 PM
Yeah, but if you look at it from the perspective that Mousasi's strikes were from the bottom and less effective than Lawal's strikes from the top, then I think it's a lot more even.

at the end of the day mousasi made mistakes and never took any chances off his back so he deserved to lose, but nothing king mo did impressed me. Whenever he got in trouble on the feet he just went back to wrestling, mousasi couldnt stop it, thats that.

Buckner1986
04-19-2010, 07:46 PM
There's no need for yellow cards. If the refs wanted more action they could have stood it up, but the result would have been a double leg.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:46 PM
PRIDE had it's fair share of boring ass fights as well

no amount of yellow cards could save amar suloev vs dean lister

but thats an extreme case

HOODS
04-19-2010, 07:47 PM
if after the mosuasi 5 rounder someone told me there would be an ever more boring 5 round wrestlingfest on the card i would have laughed in their face, but i would have be oh so wrong.

Buckner1986
04-19-2010, 07:49 PM
at the end of the day mousasi made mistakes and never took any chances off his back so he deserved to lose, but nothing king mo did impressed me. Whenever he got in trouble on the feet he just went back to wrestling, mousasi couldnt stop it, thats that.

I agree. It comes down to a lack of gameplan from Mousasi's back and lack of cardio.

Buckner1986
04-19-2010, 07:50 PM
There was a couple of slick scrambles in the first half of the Hendo/Shields fight, and Jake's top control was very impressive. If that's what you're talking about, HOODS.

HHJ
04-19-2010, 07:56 PM
mo vs mousai way may more exciting than shields/hendo and gsp/hardy

Buckner1986
04-19-2010, 07:57 PM
Agreed.