TCM Boxing Talk

[AMERICAN BONES]

TCMs official boxing thread, discuss anything boxing related in here.

[gumby]

The Midnight Stalker Michael Walker FTW

[AMERICAN BONES]

allan green vs andre ward is this weekend, i have to DVR it as i will be at a show in chicago where one of my best friends is making his pro debut, hopefully ill make it to the bar in time to catch this fight cus i think its gonna be good. im going with ward to win a UD, using his movement and speed, but im not counting allan green out, hes got fight changing power and a huge chip on his shoulder, i expect a war

[AMERICAN BONES]

The Midnight Stalker Michael Walker FTW

:roflnut:

[AMERICAN BONES]

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[AMERICAN BONES]

stories are swirling about pacquiao vs mayweather being all set and everything agreed to, just waiting on the paperwork

[HendoStu]

stories are swirling about pacquiao vs mayweather being all set and everything agreed to, just waiting on the paperwork

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Saska]

Too many decisions in boxing.

[AMERICAN BONES]

I'll believe it when I see it.

agreed, mayweather seems to hint at the fight being made already at around the 50sec mark of this vid

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/528745/50-cent-and-floyd-mayweather-talk-music.jhtml

[MEHT TRALER FAGIT]

finally

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

stories are swirling about pacquiao vs mayweather being all set and everything agreed to, just waiting on the paperwork

i dont know either of those guys, whens tyson fighting again?

[Bobby Curls]

robbie lawler punches hard...like a boxer

[AMERICAN BONES]

i dont know either of those guys, whens tyson fighting again?

depends whether or not he takes a tune up fight before holyfield :evil2:

[Vlad]

Ward vs Green fucking boring lame ass fight.

I also watched Rodel Mayol (philipines) vs Omar Niño (Mexico), now that is real boxing match.

Next Saturday, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. vs John Duddy, I got Chavez on the 10th by Duddy not being able to continue, you watch.

Also the come back of Barrera, that will be fun to watch.

[Vlad]

So who of you is picking Jhon "they think i have a chance" Duddy?

[AMERICAN BONES]

chavez is with roach now, and on the juice, but if duddy doesnt fight like a faggot or take a dive he should win

[Vlad]

I heard he was tranning with Roach, but is Roach going ot be in Chavez corner for this fight?

And Chavez is not on the juice.

I have Chavez in the early rounds, Duddy is going to come out trowing punches like a maniac and Chavez is going to catch him early.

[AMERICAN BONES]

im pretty sure roach is his full time trainer now, hes spent his whole camp at wildcard

[Vlad]

Yeah, you are right I just read that, never saw that comming.

Oh well, Chavez did need it a change, his uncles where not going to take him to far.

[AMERICAN BONES]

he already looks bigger and in better shape

[Vlad]

Good for him, lets see if this will show in the ring on saturday.

[Vlad]

chavez is with roach now, and on the juice, but if duddy doesnt fight like a faggot or take a dive he should win

So did he fought like a faggot, took a dive or Chavez Jr. is legit on yours eyes now?

[AMERICAN BONES]

i didnt see the fight, but from what i read he looked great and is at least more legit than he was before, still unproven at the top level but we will see

[Vlad]

After the fight, his promoters where talking Cotto for Dec. I know you are going to say I’m crazy but I think Chavez can be competitive vs Cotto.

Especially if he is going to fully trained with Roach now.

Props for Duddy for not going down, he took a good beating and didn’t went down.

[Elk Penis]

Chavez Jr has to be one of the most protected fighters ever. It will be interesting to see if he's finally ready to step up in competition. Cotto, even though not the same fighter he was before the Margarito fight, is still a big leap up in competition.

[super hot]

Chavez Jr needs more fights before he can contend with the big boys of boxing. A couple more fights should help.

[Vlad]

Chavez jr. had zero amateur fights, he jumped right into pro fighting, its only fair he fought some none champion material right?

But I do think they should wait a little more before facing him to the top level fighters, he can fight for some plastic world belt IMO.

[Muscle Faggot]

ESPN is saying mayweather is scared to fight manny,LOL at burt sugar "I'm not saying he is ducking mayweather but he does not want to fight him " what kind of crack is burt on ?

[AMERICAN BONES]

so i just listened to bob arums midnight conference call about the may/pac fight, he wouldnt talk contract terms that were offered, he says they had no direct contact with anyone from the mayweather camp throughout the entire "negotiation", and when i say no contact i mean neither side once spoke to the other side directly, all the talks were going through ross greenburg the pres of HBO sports.

arum also said the fight is not dead, negotiations are still open, but he will now be pursuing fights with cotto and margarito as well as mayweather. arum also said that he is not surprised in the least that mayweather hasnt accepted the fight yet, and he doesnt blame him for not making a decision due to his uncle/trainers upcoming trial. arum said he is positive mayweather wants to fight pacquiao, and he is sure it will happen, if not in november then sometime next year. arum mentioned it multiple times that he doesnt blame mayweather for not making a decision and that the media shouldnt either, which i found strange.

arum was full of shit plenty of times during the conference, he claimed they did not look into any other fights but the mayweather fight, then later said they have been looking into venues for a fight with marg or cotto. when people asked if marg deserved a fight like this since he is suspended in the US after he got caught loading his gloves against mosely and arum got pissed and cut those people off. he also said that guys like timothy bradley and paul williams were not options for pacquiao becasue they arent promoted correctly and dont have big enough followings, yet hes lets manny fight guys from top rank like david diaz and joshua clottey with even smaller fan bases than the other guys, arum basically said no to anyone outside of his top rank stable of fighters

[HHJ]

they will fight in 2015

[American Born Jr]

their children will fight one day

[AMERICAN BONES]

lol at floyd sr

JENNA: Now Floyd, taking things back to your son and his potential fight with Pacquiao. If you could speak to Pacquiao right now face to face what would you say to him?

MAYWEATHER SR: I’d tell him he’s a fagg*t. You know what I’d tell him. Go stick your head up under your dress. That’s what I would tell him. I’m being real with you. I’d tell him he ain’t nothing but a sissy and a little girl. They got, as a matter of fact I’ve seen a thing in one of these books. Hold on just a second. Hey Lloyd! Where’s that book at about all of those athletes? That book about all of the athletes? You know the one, it had Pacquiao in there and Kobe in there? Well you know what, I’ll tell you just like the book says it. Hold on one second here. Here it is right here, here’s the book. It has nothing to do with no sissy. Just hold on just a second. I got something right here. I’m trying to find something right here. This is exactly what I would tell him. It’s in this book here. It’s “The Twenty Biggest Bitches in the Sport”. That’s what it says, “The Twenty Biggest Bitches in the Sport”. Guess who’s right here? Manny Pacquiao. It says “Biggest Bitches in the Sport” and that’s what he is, a bitch.

[Boxhead]

blah blah blah fuck both of their greedy camps

[Vlad]

Margarito is the big winner of all of this shit.

[AMERICAN BONES]

Best card of the year this weekend, rematch of last years fight of the year Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz and a GREAT UNDERCARD for once.

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Major League Baseball blacked out in Las Vegas the three-game series between the San Diego Padres and the Pittsburgh Pirates that was held at Pittsburgh’s PNC Park over the weekend. The rule, in which Vegas is blacked out as San Diego’s “home market,” is zany, makes zero sense and it misses a significant marketing opportunity: “Hey, fans, look, not only do you get every major league game when you buy the ‘Extra Innings’ package, but we’ll throw in the games of a Triple-A team at no extra cost when you pay in full!”

It was frustrating, though, to not be able to watch, especially for the handful of us Pirates fans out there who are interested in seeing the development of rookies like Pedro Alvarez and Jose Tabata.

This frustration is nothing, though, compared to what it is like to be a boxing fan. Boxing fans are the most patient people on earth. We deal with zero free fights on network television. Not only do we have to buy cable to see the fights, we have to buy premium cable to see the stars fight.

And even after paying the $300 or so a year to add HBO and Showtime to your satellite or cable bill, you have to pay more if you want to see the really good fights. Let me introduce you to the wonderful world of pay-per-view.

For a minimum of $50 (or another $10 if you are living in the 21st century and have an HDTV), you can buy the biggest fights. Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Shane Mosley? Pay-per-view.

The upcoming Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito? Yep, pay-per-view.

And that’s only the major fights on pay-per-view. You can buy a card just about every weekend if you want to reach into your wallet. This year, I’ve paid $14.95 to watch Wladimir Klitschko sleepwalk to a win over Eddie Chambers (who was even sleepier). I’ve paid $24.95 to watch a Wilfredo Vazquez fight and, gulp, another $50 to watch Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., among many others.

Most of the time, there is just one fight worth seeing. Occasionally, there is a second. Surprisingly, the cheaper the price of the broadcast, often the more compelling the fights are on paper. Top Rank’s “Latin Fury” series frequently has quality bouts up and down the card and is usually cheaper by at least $10 than the HBO Pay-Per-View offerings.

That, though, is an anomaly in the business and particularly so for Top Rank. The company’s septuagenarian promoter, Bob Arum, has contended for years that no matter how many bouts there are on a pay-per-view card, only one matters when it comes to sales: the main event. The buying decision, Arum insists, is determined almost solely by whether fans are interested in the main event.

If they want to see Mayweather or Pacquiao fight (of course, not against each other; that would make too much sense), they’ll buy no matter the dreck that all too frequently fills the two-and-a-half hours on the broadcast before the stars enter the ring.

Most other boxing promoters have adopted that stance, though Top Rank and Golden Boy are the only ones who regularly stage major pay-per-view events. The result, though, is an outlay of $50 or $60 for a card filled with one-sided bouts. Promoters far too often use the undercard to show their most promising prospects in set-up matches, in which the opponent has little ability, or incentive, to win. The sole purpose of those kinds of fights is to build up the prospect’s record, though true fans would far rather see those prospects in fights that actually test their abilities.

On Saturday, Golden Boy Promotions is going to try something that, among its peers, must be considered radical: Its pay-per-view card will feature fights that seem worth watching. The main event of Golden Boy’s card features a rematch between Juan Manuel Marquez and Juan Diaz, a bout that was chosen as the 2009 Fight of the Year by the Boxing Writers Association of America.


The show will air on HBO Pay-Per-View and will set you back $50 or $60, depending upon if you opt for the high-definition broadcast. This, though, isn’t one of those cards where you’re safe if you barbecue and chat with your friends until moments before the main event. This is one of those rare pay-per-view offerings that has, you know, intriguing fights on it other than the main event.

“I really wanted to put together an undercard that would be meaningful from top to bottom and have one compelling fight after the other,” Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer said.

That’s a great start, but here comes the kicker:

“I read all of these blogs and I sometimes hear fans complain about the undercards,” Schaefer said. “So I decided to invest the money on the undercard and see if doing that would help us push the pay-per-view needle.”

None of the undercard fights figures to be the 2010 Fight of the Year, but there are three attractive bouts. Danny Jacobs, a top Golden Boy prospect who in his young career has been fed more cupcakes than a fat kid on a picnic, will meet Dmitry Pirog for a vacant middleweight title. Robert Guerrero will move up to super lightweight to take on Joel Casamayor in a battle not only of former world champions, but also of former sparring partners. And one-time super hot prospect Jorge Linares will meet Rocky Juarez.

None of them, at least going in, will make you forget Hagler-Hearns or Corrales-Castillo, but they’re good, solid matches. They’re far better than the awful bouts you got beneath the Mayweather-Mosley fight on May 1 or the Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey fight on March 13.

Schaefer is going to use the card’s showing as a barometer of whether it’s worth the expense to beef up the undercard. It costs more to put on Guerrero-Casamayor and Linares-Juarez than it does Daniel Ponce de Leon-Cornelius Lock and Said Ouali-Hector Saldivia, which was underneath Mayweather-Mosley.

It’s not fair, in a way, because the paying customer has been conditioned to expect less-than-stellar undercards for years. That, though, is business.

On most pay-per-view undercards, the promoters could act like Major League Baseball and black the fights out, and probably 2 percent of the paying customers would notice. This time, there are fights that actually have intrigue.

Whether the trend continues is open to a great debate. Just don’t expect the deep pay-per-view undercards to continue unless Saturday’s show does far better than expected at the box office.

[super hot]

I'm not paying to watch that fight. I think the first fight was free so this one should be as well.

[AMERICAN BONES]

agreed it would be nice if it was free, especially since marquez is coming in off of a loss, but it is for the lightweight title and was the fight of they year last year, and there is a middleweight title fight as well as some other great fights, i have no problem paying for it

[super hot]

the last fight was good. i agree with that. i'll probably already be out partying somewhere. so i'll catch the replay on hbo or what ever channel a week later.

[Vlad]

Great fight, JMM was close to ko'ing the little bull guy, anothe boxing clinic by JMM.

I was watching Teviseso Arce's fight that same night andf he looked pretty sharp under the Cuchulito's father regime.

[Vlad]

It was also mention that Margo vs Pacman it’s official, if Las Vegas turn’s down Margarito's license; they will be fighting here in Monterrey.

[Gay]

It was also mention that Margo vs Pacman it’s official, if Las Vegas turn’s down Margarito's license; they will be fighting here in Monterrey.

I hope Margacheato gets knocked the fuck out, what a piece of shit.

[Vlad]

Yeah he fucked it up by loading his gloves for God knows how long.

But the guy has potential and could give us all Boxing fans a good show vs Pacman, he deserves a second chance, why not.

[Gay]

Yeah he fucked it up by loading his gloves for God knows how long.

But the guy has potential and could give us all Boxing fans a good show vs Pacman, he deserves a second chance, why not.

He's definitely a great fighter, which is why it's upsetting that he would cheat. It's so dangerous, he could've fucking killed somebody doing that. I'm glad a 38 year old Shane Mosley taught him a lesson.

[Vlad]

Pretty low indeed, something in my heart tells me he used loaded gloves vs Cotto and that just kill any respect I had for the guy, I’m Mexican and all but can't applaud something like that. I like Cotto, (even though he is from Puerto Rico, no offense Mante) he is a very cool simple guy, a shame if Margo loaded his gloves.

Still is going to ve a very exiting fight vs Pacman, a lot of people think Margo has an edge over Pacman, we will see.

[AMERICAN BONES]

margorito is a fucking bum, hes a mummy with no defense that wouldnt have done shit without his loaded gloves, pacquiao is a bitch too, they are fighting for a 154lbs title and pac makes it at a catchweight of 150lbs, his second straight world title hes gonna win at a fucking catchweight

[AMERICAN BONES]

margo should never be licensed, he should have gone to prison

[AMERICAN BONES]

that russian guy Pirog that beat Jacobs on Saturday looks awesome and seems real fun to watch, i was amazed at the way he walked through jacobs

[super hot]

I'm not puerto rican, vlad

[AMERICAN BONES]

that av really fucked with your rep mante, sorry bout that

[California Giant]

hes a cuban

[Vlad]

margo should never be licensed, he should have gone to prison

He will never be licensed in the Us I think, that is why he will be fighting in beautiful sunny Mexico. But yeah perhaps he should have been banned for good in every country.

[Vlad]

I'm not puerto rican, vlad

That is what I thought but then you flash that PR flag in your av and I thought you might be half Mex half Rican.

[Vlad]

By the way, the Soto ducking by everyone in his division is getting out of hand.

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

margorito is a fucking bum, hes a mummy with no defense that wouldnt have done shit without his loaded gloves, pacquiao is a bitch too, they are fighting for a 154lbs title and pac makes it at a catchweight of 150lbs, his second straight world title hes gonna win at a fucking catchweight

we all know he should be fighting mayweather but hes a scared little faggot who needs hi felon uncle in the ring with him :roflnut:

[AMERICAN BONES]

or pacquiao is a scared little faggot that wont take a drug test and would rather fight in house bums like clottey and margo

[super hot]

lol, mayweather was the faggot dodging the fight this time. wait until the irs comes knocking again.

[AMERICAN BONES]

the first time it seemed clear pacquiao didnt want the fight, this time is not so clear, but floyd has been meeting with don king, who arum said he would rather work with and that he knows he could make mayweather v pac with king rather than golden boy, so maybe golden boy was the problem

[super hot]

golden boy is a faggot

[AMERICAN BONES]

agreed

there was also a story out of puerto rico, where mayweather was seen with cotto, about mayweather, cotto and Don King forming a new promotions company together, which would explain why floyd was also seen with king, and why he would want to delay the fight so that his new company could promote it

[AMERICAN BONES]

either way my guess is golden boy is out of negotiating and promoting mayweathers side for the fight

[super hot]

promoters fuck up boxing. i wish they didn't exist.

[Vlad]

Rafael Marquez vs Juan Manuel Lopez is going to be sweet:

Marquez (39-5, 35 KOs), of México City

Lopez (29-0, 26 KOs), from Caguas, Puerto Rico

“I am looking forward to showing my skills against a great champion like Rafael Marquez, one of the all-time greats and a future hall of famer,” said Lopez. “It will be the biggest fight of my career.”rquez vs Juan Manuel Lopez is going to be a great fight.

“This has become the most important fight of my career and I will train for it as if I were fighting for my life.”said Marquez.

[AMERICAN BONES]

that fight is gonna be fucking awesome

[super hot]

fuck that puerto rican

[Vlad]

Same night of the Mosley vs Mora right? with Saul Canelo vs Boldomir on the undercard.

Both cards are free in Mexico but I think the Mosley vs Mora is PPV and the Lopez vs Marquez will be free in the Us right?

[AMERICAN BONES]

correct

[super hot]

mosely vs mora ppv? no one is buying that.

[AMERICAN BONES]

they are promoting it with shit like "can mora be the first mexican to defeat mosley?" they are playing up to mexican independence day, throwing some mexican guys on the card, buts its stupid to put it as a PPV when there is another fight for mexicans to watch that is prolly a better draw on TV for free

[AMERICAN BONES]

lol i just realized Mora was born in america, hes no more mexican than de la hoya, or victor ortiz who they are also promoting for this card

[super hot]

fuck mora too. he sucks

[super hot]

no fucking power at all

[Vlad]

So you guys are not buying the Mora vs Mosley fight? It seems like the general choice, no one is buying that shit lol

[AMERICAN BONES]

ill prolly stream it

[super hot]

I'll probably not care about these two cans

[super hot]

mosely turned beating a giant shit in margarito into the most over hyped fight of the year with mayweather.

[Vlad]

Canelo will have hi hands full I think.

[Vlad]

mosely turned beating a giant shit in margarito into the most over hyped fight of the year with mayweather.

Mayweather can turn any fight into a sleeping fest. fucking pussy ass boxing style.

[AMERICAN BONES]

i wanna see mosley beat moras ass, i like mosley and a dominate performance by him will make mayweathers win better if he proves hes not shot

[super hot]

the latin snake has to be one of the dumbest nick names ever. I rather not have one than have that shitty name.

[AMERICAN BONES]

Canelo will have hi hands full I think.

baldomir is done, anything but a dominate preformance from canelo will be a let down IMO

[Vlad]

La vivora mexicana? o El vivora mexicano? lol

[Vlad]

baldomir is done, anything but a dominate preformance from canelo will be a let down IMO

thing is Baldomir is a very experienced fighter and Canelo is only 19yrs old, he had big problems with Cotto in the early rounds and attribute that to cottos experience over Canelo.

Baldomir knows this and he is going to throw every little dirty trick on Canelo, therefore I can see some fire in there.

[AMERICAN BONES]

thing is Baldomir is a very experienced fighter and Canelo is only 19yrs old, he had big problems with Cotto in the early rounds and attribute that to cottos experience over Canelo.

Baldomir knows this and he is going to throw every little dirty trick on Canelo, therefore I can see some fire in there.

maybe, i dont think baldomir has the pop to hurt saul, and i think baldomir is a bit chinny these days, will be interesting

[AMERICAN BONES]

from floyds twitter, this has to be from don king, floyd is supposed to be special guest of King tomorrow night for his card on HBO

http://c0013444.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_233211e

[California Giant]

HBO has some decent fights coming up

[Vlad]

HBO has some decent fights coming up

What are those?

[California Giant]

What are those?

Jean Pascal vs Chad Dawson and Kotelnik vs Devon alexander

[AMERICAN BONES]

Jean Pascal vs Chad Dawson and Kotelnik vs Devon alexander

the dawson fight will be good, devon is gonna shutout kotelnik tomorrow IMO, im excited to see if glen dawson can pull out another upset and win another title before he hangs them up

[AMERICAN BONES]

glen johnson again put up a great fight, gotta love that guy

i see dawson beating pascal via UD this weekend. its nice to see dawson in against some good fighters in their prime, if he beats pascal hes got Bute down at 168, or cloud, he keeps talking about getting a fight with calzaghe too

[Vlad]

Great Saturday night fight at Puerto Rico (Mantes homeland) Giovanni Segura smashed the shit out off by the undefeated Ivan Calderon.

After 3 years of hiding and avoiding Segura, Calderon finally accepted the fight, Segura knew he had to accept every single crazy demands those Puertorican fags where going to put on the table, he agreed to everything they ask for; bigger ring, bigger gloves, the fight to be made in Puerto Rico etc etc etc....

As usual when a Puertorican faces a Mexican warrior Ivan got on his byicle and ran the whole fight, Giovanni chased him all over hitting him on the midsection for the of the entire 8 rounds. Just like Cotto vs Margo, Ivan went to his knees and wanted no more of Segura and didn’t got up. It was as if I was watching Margo vs Cotto all over again. Great night.


http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24909&more=1

[AMERICAN BONES]

that was an awesome fight, but i think puerto rico is gonna take the next two, juanma is gonna beat marquez, and cotto is gonna beat chavez jr

[AMERICAN BONES]

Here’s what the boxing landscape is looking like for the fourth quarter of 2010. Not all of these fights are finalized, dates can change, more big fights will be added, but it’s looking like an exciting October-December.

October 2: Arthur Abraham vs Carl Froch
October 2: Zab Judah vs Michael Clark
October 15: Antonio Tarver vs Nagy Aguilera
October 15: Lucian Bute vs Jesse Brinkley
October 16: Vitali Klitschko vs Shannon Briggs
October 16: Wilfredo Vazquez vs TBA
October 24: Toshiaki Nishioka vs Rendall Munroe
October 24: Jorge Linares vs Jesus Chavez
October 30: Sebastian Sylvester vs Mahir Oral
October 30: Alexander Povetkin vs TBA
November 5: Evander Holyfield vs Sherman Williams
November 6: Juan Manuel Lopez vs Rafael Marquez
November 6: Robert Guerrero vs TBA
November 6: James Kirkland vs TBA
November 13: Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito
November 13: Guillermo Rigondeaux vs TBA
November 13: Mike Jones vs TBA
November 13: Kelly Pavlik vs TBA
November 13: David Haye vs TBA (Audley Harrison?)
November 27: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Michael Katsidis
December 4: Miguel Cotto vs Julio Cesar Chavez
December 4: Vic Darchinyan vs Abner Mares
December 4: Yohnny Perez vs Joseph Agbeko
December 11: Amir Khan vs Marcos Maidana
December 11: Alexander Povetkin vs TBA
December 18: Jean Pascal vs Bernard Hopkins

[AMERICAN BONES]

its been a shit year for boxing, but hopefully these fights happen and we can end on a good note

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

oh god i hope chavez does well, but this is too big of a step up IMO

[super hot]

AB, is Saul "Canelo" Alvarez any good? I haven't seen him fight yet

[AMERICAN BONES]

its yet to be seen, but hes a huge draw and one of the most popular fighters in mexico. i saw him fight against cottos brother on the mayweather mosley undercard, he got dropped early, but came back strong and looked really good, in his last fight he destroyed a guy that went the distance in a tough fight with JCC jr. saul is def a top prospect and after he beats baldomir this weekend we should see a step up in competition, but he is only 20 so who knows

[California Giant]

Canelo trains with the Kamedas.

[California Giant]

http://www.notifight.com/artman2/uploads/3/KokiKamedaSaulAlvarezSumio410NF01.jpg

[Vlad]

its yet to be seen, but hes a huge draw and one of the most popular fighters in mexico. i saw him fight against cottos brother on the mayweather mosley undercard, he got dropped early, but came back strong and looked really good, in his last fight he destroyed a guy that went the distance in a tough fight with JCC jr. saul is def a top prospect and after he beats baldomir this weekend we should see a step up in competition, but he is only 20 so who knows

Just to clear something, Canelo didn’t got dropped by Cotto, he got rocked but didn’t went down at all.

He showed great skills again this past Saturday, he show composure and patience, as soon as he saw Baldomir hut he went for the kill, great left hook to Baldomir's chin; he went down like a cow, face to the floor.

Then came the boring gay ass fight of Mora vs Mosley, fucking queers.

Omar Chavez fought and won by TKO, Zorrita Soto defeated his opponent with an exelent boxing lesson. Travieso Arce also fought and won but some stupid judge fucked up when adding points and give the victory to the other guy, the result if going to be appealed and Travieso will be awarded with the victory.

All and all a great nigh for Mexico’s boxing

[AMERICAN BONES]

Just to clear something, Canelo didn’t got dropped by Cotto, he got rocked but didn’t went down at all.

He showed great skills again this past Saturday, he show composure and patience, as soon as he saw Baldomir hut he went for the kill, great left hook to Baldomir's chin; he went down like a cow, face to the floor.

Then came the boring gay ass fight of Mora vs Mosley, fucking queers.

Omar Chavez fought and won by TKO, Zorrita Soto defeated his opponent with an exelent boxing lesson. Travieso Arce also fought and won but some stupid judge fucked up when adding points and give the victory to the other guy, the result if going to be appealed and Travieso will be awarded with the victory.

All and all a great nigh for Mexico’s boxing

youre right my bad, he didnt go down, but the fact that an undersized opponent was able to hurt him is really the only cause for concern thus far in his career. his KO of baldomir who has a good chin was spectacular and awesome

[Vlad]

youre right my bad, he didnt go down, but the fact that an undersized opponent was able to hurt him is really the only cause for concern thus far in his career. his KO of baldomir who has a good chin was spectacular and awesome

Cotto looked fat and bigger than Canelo in that fight, but I don’t have the info on who actually weighted more came fight night.

After he fight he was ask about a championship fight, he said not yet, I think he is going to have 2 more fights before going for any of the top 4 in that division.

Im sure by the end of next year he will face Chavez Jr. which is going to paralyze Mexico, everyone and I mean everyone is going to watch that fight, not even soccer games will be as big as this event.

I hope Chavez can win a decision vs Cotto in Dec.

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

Cotto looked fat and bigger than Canelo in that fight, but I don’t have the info on who actually weighted more came fight night.

After he fight he was ask about a championship fight, he said not yet, I think he is going to have 2 more fights before going for any of the top 4 in that division.

Im sure by the end of next year he will face Chavez Jr. which is going to paralyze Mexico, everyone and I mean everyone is going to watch that fight, not even soccer games will be as big as this event.
I hope Chavez can win a decision vs Cotto in Dec.

hahahahahahahha bullshit

[MEHT TRALER FAGIT]

lol at anyone giving a shit about some boxing ppv that reads like an illegal employee list for wal-mart

[Vlad]

hahahahahahahha bullshit

National Soccer sucks, our National Team sucks, you witness how much they suck in the last World Cup.

Plus people support their soccer teams locally, there isn’t a team that everyone loves, in this case everyone is talking about that fight already, everyone knows who Canelo and Chavez Jr. are, boxing its pretty big in Mexico, remember Julio Cesar Chavez era? everyone watched his fights, when he fought in Mexico City and when he fought Macho Camacho the Tv ratings where epic.

Just wait until this fight happens, I’m going come here and show you the numbers.

[AMERICAN BONES]

Cotto looked fat and bigger than Canelo in that fight, but I don’t have the info on who actually weighted more came fight night.

After he fight he was ask about a championship fight, he said not yet, I think he is going to have 2 more fights before going for any of the top 4 in that division.

Im sure by the end of next year he will face Chavez Jr. which is going to paralyze Mexico, everyone and I mean everyone is going to watch that fight, not even soccer games will be as big as this event.

I hope Chavez can win a decision vs Cotto in Dec.

i dont know about fight night weights, but naturaly canelo is a HUGE welterweight, and cotto is probably a natural lightweight, if that, most of his fight are at leightweight and below, he fought canelo and junior middleweight

[AMERICAN BONES]

on a side note, my buddy won his second pro fight on friday by a pretty brutal KO, and i met and got to have a little convo with emanuel steward, he was a real nice guy, also shook hands with urlacher who was there for the fights

[Vlad]

i dont know about fight night weights, but naturaly canelo is a HUGE welterweight, and cotto is probably a natural lightweight, if that, most of his fight are at leightweight and below, he fought canelo and junior middleweight

I see, I wonder who is next for Canelo. De la Hoya said he will fight on December.

[super hot]

Canelo looked fucking good. He's going to be a monster.

[Vlad]

on a side note, my buddy won his second pro fight on friday by a pretty brutal KO, and i met and got to have a little convo with emanuel steward, he was a real nice guy, also shook hands with urlacher who was there for the fights

Who is your friend? any videos of his fights on the net?

[super hot]

my friend is a can.

[AMERICAN BONES]

lol mante, your bud might be a can but hes a tough mother fucker

no videos are up of my guys fights, but here he is on boxrec
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=534136&cat=boxer

[California Giant]

so your other buddy got worked in his last fight though huh?

[AMERICAN BONES]

ya he got destroyed pretty bad, one of the worst beatings ive ever seen, he has no memory of the fight or anything that happened in the 2 weeks after

[super hot]

lol mante, your bud might be a can but hes a tough mother fucker

no videos are up of my guys fights, but here he is on boxrec
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=534136&cat=boxer

they wouldn't license him for his last fight. he might be done.

[AMERICAN BONES]

hell ya

Junior middleweight contender James Kirkland was released from Bastrop Federal Prison outside of Austin, Texas, his hometown, on Thursday and planned to resume training immediately, co-manager Cameron Dunkin told ESPN.com.

Kirkland (25-0, 22 KOs) will spend the next few months at a halfway house in Austin, but will be allowed to train. Dunkin said he would also look for a part-time job.

"He's out. He's very happy and had a chance to see his two kids," Dunkin said. "He'll be in a halfway house in Austin. He's already checked in there. He'll go through the weeklong orientation process. He's going to look for a job to start earning a check. But he'll be able to go and train as long as he's back by the curfew. He's going to start training immediately.

He's unbelievably happy to be out [of prison], as you can imagine. He doesn't want to go back there ever again."

Kirkland, 26, was one of the most fearsome rising 154-pound contenders in the world when he was incarcerated in April 2009 after pleading guilty to gun possession by a convicted felon.

He was supposed to be released on Sept. 17, but it was delayed because there was a lack of beds at the halfway house.

"I've never seen him this happy, this jovial, this talkative," said co-manager Michael Miller, who met with Kirkland a couple of hours after his release. "I'm telling you, he's saying all the right things. He said, 'Michael, I understand my past and my mistakes. I can't wait to get back in the gym. I missed it and I can't wait.'"

Kirkland's return to the ring was expected to take place Nov. 6 in Newark, N.J., on the untelevised portion of Zab Judah's HBO fight against Lucas Matthysse. However, with the release coming two weeks later than expected, Dunkin said Kirkland won't return on that card. Instead, Golden Boy Promotions will put him on a December card to give him more time to train and adjust to life out of prison.

"We're not going to push him," Dunkin said. "There's no reason to push it. We'll go ahead and have him fight in December and make sure he's right. There's no reason to rush it."

One of the biggest questions surrounding his comeback is whether Ann Wolfe will continue training him. It doesn't look like it. Kirkland's arrest was a big issue between them.

"When I saw James, I told him, 'You two need to work this out, whatever your issues are," Miller said. "I don't know exactly what the issues are and I'm glad I don't know. But he knows needs to visit with her and they need to get things cleared up one way or the other. I'd like nothing more than to hear, 'We've settled our differences and we're going forward.' But I don't know."

If she doesn't return to the corner, Wolfe will still be paid her 7.5 percent interest in his management contract, Dunkin said.

"James is going to find a gym in Austin and I'm sending him equipment," Dunkin said. "The trainer stuff, we have to talk about that. We don't know who it's going to be."

Miller said Kirkland weighed 172 pounds when he was released and "looked like he could fight tomorrow."

He has not fought since stopping Joel "Love Child" Julio in the sixth round on HBO in March 2009. He was scheduled to fight on the pay-per-view undercard of the Manny Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton fight in May 2009, but was arrested shortly before the fight.

Kirkland was on probation for a 2003 armed robbery conviction when he was arrested after buying a firearm, using his own identification, at a gun show near Austin. The weapon was discovered during a traffic stop. Because Kirkland was a convicted felon, he was barred from possessing a gun, making the offense more serious and resulting in the jail time.

[AMERICAN BONES]

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not to mention we got rafael marquez vs juan manuel lopez on nov 6th, plus abner mares vs vic darchinyan and yonnhy perez vs joseph agbeko on dec 11th for the first round of showtimes bantamweight tourney, been a shit year for boxing fans, looks like it will end really strong though

[Buckfutts]

Shite bag maynever fight again

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6893/yamamoto.jpg


MANILA, Philippines – Boxing historian Bert Sugar thinks boxing fans may never see Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight Philippine pride Manny Pacquiao because of the American boxer’s legal troubles.

“He’s been called Floyd ‘Maynever’. He may never fight again,” the well known boxing figure said in a slideshow report posted by writer Chris Robinson on Examiner.com.

Sugar said the unbeaten boxer from Michigan has never shown any real intention to fight Pacquiao, despite several posturings on the internet, including his infamous video diatribe against the Filipino boxing star. (Click here for related story)

“He didn’t seem to want to fight Pacquiao and he may never fight again depending on the charges,” said Sugar.

The boxing historian said that aside from Mayweather’s problems with the law, the American boxer may also have other “problems.”

“I can’t comment on [his legal issue], I’m not a psychiatrist. But he does seem to have problems,” Sugar said.

Mayweather is facing charges for allegedly beating up his former girlfriend Josie Harris. If convicted of all the charges, the unbeaten boxer could face more than 30 years in jail.

Pacquiao’s promoter, Top Rank’s Bob Arum, had aggressively negotiated to arrange a multi-million dollar fight between the Filipino and Mayweather.

The first round of talks saw the American demanding that both he and Pacquiao undergo blood testing close to fight night, which was rejected by the Filipino champion.

However, when Pacquiao acceded to this demand during the second round of talks, Mayweather’s camp denied that they were negotiating for the fight.

Pacquiao, now a congressman representing Sarangani province, eventually decided to face Antonio Margarito of Mexico on November 13.

[AMERICAN BONES]

fucking pussies wont fight cus they're friends, what a bitch these guys are, i hope abraham KTFO of all of them

Andre Ward will have a new opponent on November 27 after Andre Dirrell pulled out with an alleged undisclosed injury. Ward and Dirrell (former Olympic teammates) were originally scheduled to meet September 25, but no agreement could be reached between the respective camps and the bout was rescheduled for November 27. Ken Hershman, Executive Vice President and General Manager of SHOWTIME Sports, said today that Ward’s fight will go on as scheduled against an opponent to be named and a decision wil be made whether that fight will be a part of the tournament or not. Win or lose, Ward will advance to the semifinal win or lose based on tournament points he has already earned. Dirrell’s departure makes the November 6 Super Six bout between Allan Green and newcomer Glen Johnson even more significant as the winner will likely advance to the semifinal.

[scorchamatic]

It sounds vaguely racist, but I'd rather watch mexicans fight at featherweight than anybody else. The wars between Morales, Barrerra, Marquez etc. were to me of the best in boxing. Those little bastards are warriors. Other than the Ward/Gotti trilogy, Morales/Barrera trilogy is probably my favorite in history.

[AMERICAN BONES]

those fights were all epic, throw pacqiuao in the mix who had as much of a mexican style as any of them and those were some fucking wars. mexican fighter like morales, barrerra and marquez were and are some of the most exciting fighters to watch, they arent afraid to get hit and sometimes even invite it, but they arent just brawlers either, they are technicians and counter punchers that can crack and take a shot with the best of them, rafael marquez vs juan manuel lopez is gonna be a fight like this im hoping, and juan manuel marquez vs katsidas is 100% gonna be a war

one of the more modern day great trilogies at HW was bowe vs holyfield, those fights were fucking amazing

[scorchamatic]

yup, good stuff

[super hot]

It sounds vaguely racist, but I'd rather watch mexicans fight at featherweight than anybody else. The wars between Morales, Barrerra, Marquez etc. were to me of the best in boxing. Those little bastards are warriors. Other than the Ward/Gotti trilogy, Morales/Barrera trilogy is probably my favorite in history.

yes

[super hot]

mexican lw's are the best.

[scorchamatic]

lol and I absolutely agree

[super hot]

mexican hw's are cans

[scorchamatic]

Cain could change all that, in mma anyway. First heavyweight champ in history, that would be a pretty huge accomplishment

[super hot]

Oh yeah. Cain is a beast. I meant mexican heavy weight boxers.

[AMERICAN BONES]

Cain is a Mexican-American it doesn't count, de la Hoya wasn't the first Mexican to win a title in 4 weight classes cus he's not a real Mexican either

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJ

[Buckfutts]

Mexicans only have good light weights because most folk in mexico are not taller than 5ft 5

[scorchamatic]

I believe that. It's kind of how you don't see any English competitive eating champions because their teeth are so fucked up.

[AMERICAN BONES]

finally november, finally gonna get some sick ass fights, this weekend we got some good prospects and guys looking to step up to contender status on friday night on showtime, then on saturday on showtime we have Juan Manuel Lopez vs Rafael Marquez, and the co-main is Glen johnson vs allan green in the replacement round of the Super Six.

also saturday night on HBO zab judah continues his comeback in a title eliminator looking to earn another title shot when he faces undefeated KO artist lucas matthysse, with robert guerrero facing vicente escobedo in the co-main.

[super hot]

Pacman fights next week too

[AMERICAN BONES]

thats in two weeks, that card is stacked, Haye defends his HW title on the 13th too, then the week after that is sergio martinez vs paul williams 2, THEN the week after that is juan manuel marquez vs michael katsidis, andre berto vs freddy hernandez, celestino caballero vs jason litzau, andre ward vs sakio bika, and arthur abraham vs carl froch.....fuck november is stacked

[AMERICAN BONES]

fuckin hell, spoke too soon, pavlik just pulled out of his fight on the pac margarito undercard

[AMERICAN BONES]

god damn, just listen to the punch, for anyone that missed martinez vs williams 2 last night
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[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

KO of the year right there

[AMERICAN BONES]

no question, and my choice for fight of the year, juan manuel marquez vs michael katsidis is this weekend

[AMERICAN BONES]

my best friend had a brutal KO on friday night too BTW
Michael Jimenez vs Jessie Lewis

The crowd waited around twenty minutes for action to resume after a medical emergency in the locker rooms of the UIC Pavilionfor Chicago native Michael Jimenez(3-0, 3 KOs) and Jessie Lewis (0-2) to fight. The result was a highly entertaining 53 second knockout by the hands of Michael Jimenez. Jimenez, 167, landed an absolutely crushing right hand that put out Lewis on his feet. Instead of it being stopped immediately, Jimenez was able to land three or four more devastating right hands that put Lewis out on the canvas.

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

no one gives a shit about that can

[super hot]

is he mexican?

[super hot]

anybody have another video of the martinez ko?

[SuperNatural]

He is Argentinian
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[super hot]

i was talking about ab's friend. if he was mexican

[SuperNatural]

sorry Mante

[AMERICAN BONES]

i was talking about ab's friend. if he was mexican

a little bit, his dad is full blown colombian but there is some mexican on his moms side

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

WORD. consider me a fan

[AMERICAN BONES]

lol PJ flip flopping worse than solid

[super hot]

at least he's not a cerrote

[AMERICAN BONES]

froch vs abraham just started if anyone wants to watch it live

http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4cea7afba5a77

[Bacon of Hope]

WHO U GOT WINNING SO FAR AB

[AMERICAN BONES]

its on showtime later tonight, im not gonna spoil it

[INS_tha_rebel]

Seen the fight yet?

[SuperNatural]

Im glad I saw the JMM/Katsidis fight instead

[INS_tha_rebel]

Im glad I saw the JMM/Katsidis fight instead

The Froch/Abraham bout was supposed to be an all out war. It never happened due to Froch being the superior boxer and Abraham being an overrated, heartless bum.

I wasn't that interested in JMM-Katsidis because I never gave Katsidis a chance at winning. I'll download it later in the week though.

[Bacon of Hope]

The Andre Ward Bika fight was the best of the night

[AMERICAN BONES]

The Froch/Abraham bout was supposed to be an all out war. It never happened due to Froch being the superior boxer and Abraham being an overrated, heartless bum.

I wasn't that interested in JMM-Katsidis because I never gave Katsidis a chance at winning. I'll download it later in the week though.

seriously, i was a fan of abraham when he was knocking out bums in germany, but the dude has zero versatility, i dont think he has no heart, he fought almost an entire fight against miranda with a broken jaw, hes just an idiot and not that good

the jmm katsidis fight was good, katsidis dropped marquez in i think the third and he was hurt, marquez was just too good though

http://fightnews.com/Boxing/Cozzone_Postfight_MarquezKatsidis0079.jpg

[super hot]

marquez needs a third fight with paquiao. he's the only fighter to give him a challenge in the past few years.

[AMERICAN BONES]

i agree, although it wouldnt surprise me if pacs people went after mosley instead

[AMERICAN BONES]

anyone watch the khan maidana fight on saturday, it was pretty damn good

[AMERICAN BONES]

how khan survived the 10th is beyond me
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[INS_tha_rebel]

I watched it. He seems to have developed a sturdy chin since working with Roach.

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

did khan win

are there ever any upsets in boxing

[INS_tha_rebel]

Khan won, which was an upset for some people.

[AMERICAN BONES]

him surviving the 10th was surely an upset

[AMERICAN BONES]

did khan win

are there ever any upsets in boxing

is this a serious question?

[AMERICAN BONES]

I watched it. He seems to have developed a sturdy chin since working with Roach.

ya he showed alot of heart too, gotta give him his props for this one, they are saying next might be judah in england, then the bradley/alexander winner back in the states

[INS_tha_rebel]

Judah's got nothing left. I don't want to see that fight.

I've heard Roach and Khan mention Mayweather as a future opponent. That won't end well for Khan.

[AMERICAN BONES]

nah khan doesnt have enough power to make mayweather respect him, and he was getting hit alot by a brawler like maidana, floyd takes him out imo

i dont mind the judah fight, its a name and hes still got a little left in the tank, good stay busy fight before the big one with the alexander/bradley winner, oits not like he has many options in the division and i dont see him fighting vic ortiz at this point, id rather see judah then a prescott rematch which has also been mentioned, that guy is a fucking bum

[AMERICAN BONES]

big bully
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[AMERICAN BONES]

boxing is coming back around with some fights, friday night fights is back, and tim bradley is fighting devon alexander this weekend

[AMERICAN BONES]

check this vid out if you got 15mins to spare, its pretty damn awesome
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[WAR OSCAR YEE]

if it ain't pacman vs. mayweather, who gives a fuck

[AMERICAN BONES]

negs

[AMERICAN BONES]

How rare is what we'll see Saturday night when Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley Jr. meet to unify their junior welterweight titles?

Rare.

In a fight that boxing fans have demanded for more than a year, Bradley and Alexander will become only the third pair of undefeated American fighters to face each other in a unification fight, and the first in 24 years.

The other two: Mike Tyson (then 30-0) against Tony Tucker (34-0) in a 1987 heavyweight championship unification bout, and Donald Curry (23-0) against Milton McCrory (27-0-1) in a 1985 welterweight unification clash.

"This is the biggest fight outside of [Manny] Pacquiao versus [Floyd] Mayweather," an excited Alexander said. "Everybody wants to see this fight. Two undefeated champions going at it toe-to-toe. It's going to be an amazing fight."

Said Bradley: "This fight has been building for about a year now, and I think fight fans are getting crazy about it, and boxing writers. Including myself. Regardless of what anybody said -- that I was running and that I was scared -- I knew exactly what I was doing, and now look at the magnitude of this fight. For me holding out, we are both going to get blessed after this fight. The winner is going to be a superstar."

ThE Alexander-Bradley winner will also stake his claim to being the best in a deep 140-pound weight class that also includes such notable fighters as titleholder Amir Khan, former titlist Zab Judah, Marcos Maidana and Victor Ortiz.

While Alexander-Bradley was difficult to put together, it is at least happening, much to the delight of boxing fans.

"The people want to see Pacquiao and Mayweather and they can't get it. They want to see [Wladimir] Klitschko-[David] Haye and they can't get it," said Kevin Cunningham, Alexander's trainer and manager. "The next biggest one out there is Alexander versus Bradley. The winner of this fight will be the next American superstar in this sport."

They will meet at the Silverdome in Pontiac, Mich., in the first HBO fight of the year (10 p.m. ET).

It is the sort of high-stakes, big money fight -- each fighter will earn approximately $1.2 million -- that the 27-year-old Bradley (26-0, 11 KOs) and 23-year Alexander (21-0, 13 KOs) have wanted.

"I do think the state of boxing right now is at a low," Bradley said. "Until you have great fights like this in the 140 division -- I think it's going to bring it back. We are the most talented division in boxing and we are going to bring it back just like the old days. If it's an awesome fight like I think it's going to be we are going to do it again for the boxing fans and for the world. This is the best fight in boxing, because you are not going to see Manny and Floyd fight any time soon."

Bradley worked his way up through the club shows in Southern California and got a title shot in 2008. He went to England and dethroned hometown fighter Junior Witter with a decision victory.

Bradley, a native of Palm Springs, Calif., has made four defenses against quality opponents such as Kendall Holt, Nate Campbell and Lamont Peterson. He even unified two belts when he survived two knockdowns against Holt, but was later stripped of one of them because of boxing's brutal politics.

But throughout his title reign, Bradley has been climbing the pound-for-pound rankings. He knows how significant Saturday's fight is.

"I am excited about this fight. It's been a long journey," said Bradley, who, like Alexander, has been fighting professionally since 2004. "This is the biggest fight of my career, and I'm ready to seal the deal. I am going to seize the moment. It may be the biggest opportunity I may ever get in my whole entire life and I definitely want to be victorious in this fight."

Alexander has a bit less experience at the highest level of boxing than Bradley does, but the St. Louis native has also been on a strong recent run.

He met Witter for a vacant belt in August 2009 and utterly dominated him, beating him far worse than Bradley had. Alexander made Witter quit after eight lopsided rounds.

In his first defense, Alexander unified belts by scoring a sensational one-punch knockout of usually iron-chinned Juan Urango in the eighth round. In August, Alexander claimed a decision win against former titlist Andriy Kotelnik in a very difficult and close fight in St. Louis.

Like Bradley, Alexander was also stripped of one of his alphabet belts, but that has not stopped him from still wanting to fight the other titleholders.

"It is my time now and I'm going to seize the moment," Alexander said. "Most 23-year-olds don't get the opportunity to unify titles. This will be my [second] time unifying titles. I am Alexander 'The Great,' so that's why they call me that. I am seeking greatness, and why not do it early? Not when I'm 27, 28 or 29. Why not do it now? I have been bred to do this.

"This is the moment I have been waiting for. I don't let myself get all hyped. I don't let my emotions get involved. I show my emotions in the ring so I don't need to do it outside the ring."

Bradley and Alexander both said they have been keeping an eye on each other for years, figuring they might one day meet. They never fought as amateurs because Bradley was always in a bigger weight division.

So when did Bradley realize that someday they would fight?

"Early in my career, when I was 15-0 and watching him on TV," Bradley said. "He was [also] watching me on TV. We were moving up the ranks and in the same weight class and I knew that some day we were going to have to get it on."

Alexander said it was the same for him.

"I saw Tim on TV all the time when we were climbing up the ladder, and at one time he was ahead of me, and I knew I needed to catch up."

Alexander is there now, and one of the best. So too is Bradley.

[AMERICAN BONES]

about sums it up
Talk about a disappointment. Bradley-Alexander, the first unification fight between two undefeated American titleholders in 24 years and only the third ever, was supposed to launch the winner, and maybe even the loser, to stardom, if it had been a great fight. Instead, it was a giant dud.



The fight, fought before a crowd of 6,247 at the Silverdome, was competitive all the way with several very close, hard-to-score rounds. But the fight was not pleasing to watch. It was messy and never found a flow, and it ended in ugly fashion after yet another head-butt badly rattled Alexander. He had already been cut over the right eye (needed four stitches) by Bradley in the third round from a head clash. They banged and bumped heads throughout the fight, something that has become all too common in Bradley's fights because he is usually shorter than his opponents and has a tendency to lead with his skull. Then came another head collision in the 10th round, this one opening a cut over Alexander's left eye (two more stitches). Alexander did not react well to this one. He complained of a burning sensation as the ringside doctor examined him. Ultimately, he submitted, passively allowing referee Frank Garza and Dr. Peter Samet to end the fight.



St. Louis' Alexander is only 23 years old and maybe he will still mature, but the way the fight ended left a bad taste all around. As much hype as the fight received and as much hope as there was for a memorable battle, watching a fighter essentially quit in the biggest bout of his life is disappointing. Of course, Alexander was hurt by the head-butt. Nobody disputes that. However, the greatest boxers are the ones who find a way to overcome those difficult moments. Alexander didn't.

Bradley, meanwhile, continued to get the job done. He's a physical specimen who does not seem to do anything outstanding, but does everything well. The 27-year-old from Palm Springs, Calif., landed enough right hands and applied enough pressure to negate Alexander's right jab and outstanding uppercut to unify 140-pound titles for the second time in his career. The first time he unified a title, he was stripped. By beating Alexander, he regained that belt and solidified his hold on the No. 1 spot in the deep division. Since there is virtually zero chance that HBO will exercise its option for a rematch, Bradley will move on, perhaps to a July unification bout with England's Amir Khan. That's a big fight and the one that appears most likely, if Khan comes through an April 16 interim bout. There was some talk after the fight about Alexander facing Marcos Maidana, who lost to Khan in December, in a de facto consolation fight of the unofficial tournament going on in the division.



All in all, it was wonderful to see Bradley-Alexander get made, which was no easy task. HBO deserves credit for standing behind it. The fighters deserve credit for accepting such a tough opponent (even though they both made their first million-dollar paydays for it), and promoters Gary Shaw and Don King deserve credit for their willingness to work with each other. And how about a tip of the cap to the folks at the Silverdome, who are looking to re-establish their dormant building as a venue that can attract events of all kinds. They put up a site fee of about $600,000 to lure the fight, which obviously had no local nexus. But they busted their butts and put on a first-class event. It's just a shame it did not live up to the hype.

[HendoStu]

I like how they shit all over the guy who got headbutted multiple times

[AMERICAN BONES]

did you watch it? they were incidental, ya it sucks he got cut, but he was litterally whining to the ref saying his eye burned and he wouldnt open it when the ref asked him to. also the last butt that forced him almost to his knees landed on the left side of his face and he was complaining about his right eye burning to the doc. getting butted sucks and it openeiong a cut is even worse, but there is no reasonable explanation to it burning and not being able to keep it open. a few minutes after the fight was called he had it open. bradley has a problem with headbutts, but devon went out like a punk

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/montiel-ktfo.gif

not gonna pretend to know who these guys are but dayummmmm

[flashNsmash]

lol @ 6000 people in the silverdome

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

check this vid out if you got 15mins to spare, its pretty damn awesome
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that was awesome! makes me wish I saw some of those fights live

[AMERICAN BONES]

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/montiel-ktfo.gif

not gonna pretend to know who these guys are but dayummmmm

Donaire may be the heir apparent to the p4p crown, look at the dent he left in Montiels head...
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d0/fullj.18fdb6fa0d7a72b35b2ce70edb76b2d9/18fdb6fa0d7a72b35b2ce70edb76b2d9-getty-107958842em034_fernando_mon.jpg

[AMERICAN BONES]

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41783_105584362039_4628481_q.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/nonitodonaire)
Nonito Donaire Jr. (http://www.facebook.com/nonitodonaire)
I want to give up 2 things to God: my win last night and also
Montiels speedy recovery for his zygomatic bone fracture and reconstructive
surgery

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

I dont believe in p4p rankings that shit is just dumb

[AMERICAN BONES]

arguing p4p fantasy matchups is dumb, like manny pacquiao against wlad klitschko, but if you consider manny pacquiao one of the best boxers in the world, you essentially believe in p4p rankings

[super hot]

shut up ab

[super hot]

shut up ab

[AMERICAN BONES]

mantes upset cus of the mexican with the dent in his head from a little gook

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

arguing p4p fantasy matchups is dumb, like manny pacquiao against wlad klitschko, but if you consider manny pacquiao one of the best boxers in the world, you essentially believe in p4p rankings

you mean the politician who occasionally fights cans on the side? no I don't think he should be in the discussion.

[INS_tha_rebel]

mantes upset cus of the mexican with the dent in his head from a little gook

Solid>Mante

[INS_tha_rebel]

Solid would overwhelm Mante with superior footwork and lightning fast hands.

[AMERICAN BONES]

what else is new

[AMERICAN BONES]

i give it a year and a half and mante will be working for solid

[flashNsmash]

just read an alternate history of pearl harbour written by newt gingrich

actually quite enjoyable to read, and an interesting contrast to harry turtledove's alternate history

[super hot]

i give it a year and a half and mante will be working for solid

lol, he would have never graduated without my help.

[super hot]

Solid would overwhelm Mante with superior footwork and lightning fast hands.

solid would break his little wrists if he tried to punch anyone.

[AMERICAN BONES]

lol, he would have never graduated without my help.

youve only got yourself to blame then!

[gumby]

just read an alternate history of pearl harbour written by newt gingrich

actually quite enjoyable to read, and an interesting contrast to harry turtledove's alternate history

lul wut?

[CivilServant]

you mean the politician who occasionally fights cans on the side? no I don't think he should be in the discussion.

vitiali's the politician

[flashNsmash]

lul wut?

thought it said 'tcm book talk', bud

[flashNsmash]

you mean the politician who occasionally fights cans on the side? no I don't think he should be in the discussion.

no bud we're talking about boxing, not cro-cop

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

pwn pwn pwn

[flashNsmash]

sugar shane is gonna send manny back to the dole plantation

[AMERICAN BONES]

vitiali's the politician

i think he was referring to pacquiao

[AMERICAN BONES]

sugar shane is gonna send manny back to the dole plantation

that would be hilarious, but it would suck cus then mayweather pacquiao would be completely dead, or not as big if it happened

[flashNsmash]

yeah mayweather/mosely II doesn't have quite the same allure

[flashNsmash]

and fuck off civil, that's what you get for spouting off about something you're utterly clueless about

[AMERICAN BONES]

civil will find any excuse to talk about the klits

[flashNsmash]

the only sweet science she should be discussing is baking imo

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

vitiali's the politician

what the fuck is your problem woman

[CivilServant]

the only sweet science she should be discussing is baking imo

ugh. bakings for fagets

[CivilServant]

civil will find any excuse to talk about the klits

:o

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

Baking is awesome, I like making m&m chocolate chip cookies covered in chocolate frosting.

[Kimo Therabones]

Baking is awesome, I like making m&m chocolate chip cookies covered in chocolate frosting.
dont foget to send 12 dozen to raimus

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

brandon rios and canelo winning!

[flashNsmash]

Baking is awesome, I like making m&m chocolate chip cookies covered in chocolate frosting.

:damn:

[INS_tha_rebel]

Alvarez shouldn't have been fighting Hatton.

[flashNsmash]

eddie?

[AMERICAN BONES]

Alvarez shouldn't have been fighting Hatton.

i dont mind the fight, the kids only 20, the WBC putting its belt on the line was the fucking joke

[AMERICAN BONES]

i wanna see canelo beat the shit out of chavez jr

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

canelo didnt look as good i thought, he needs to get better training or he'll never fight pac-man

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

fuck eddie alvarez not only is he a faggot puerto rican, hes also from philly i think

[flashNsmash]

fuck eddie alvarez not only is he a faggot puerto rican, hes also from philly i think

:mantetaco:

[SuperNatural]

canelo didnt look as good i thought, he needs to get better training or he'll never fight pac-man

needs to work on his head movement

[INS_tha_rebel]

Haye and Klitschko is finally happening.

http://www.boxingscene.com/klitschkos-manager-haye-fight-99-done-6-25-7-2--36680

[flashNsmash]

another brit can down the drain

[INS_tha_rebel]

Move on Canadian. This doesn't concern you.

[flashNsmash]

Move on Canadian. This doesn't concern you.

i come from the land of lennox lewis and george chuvalo bud

boxing is in my blood

[INS_tha_rebel]

Stop trying to claim Lennox Lewis. He's from the UK.

[super hot]

canelo fucked that fucking brit can up. stick to soccer faggots

[flashNsmash]

Stop trying to claim Lennox Lewis. He's from the UK.

http://media.olympic.ca/files/photos/5590-0524lewis2-v6_jpg_427x1200_upscale_q85.jpg

[flashNsmash]

MY gold medal, not yours

[INS_tha_rebel]

canelo fucked that fucking brit can up. stick to soccer faggots

lol

It was a joke of a fight. By the way, Ricky Hatton>Castillo.

[INS_tha_rebel]

I don't give a flying fuck about the Olympics.

Pro boxing>Olympic pish

[WAR OSCAR YEE]

playing fight night on the ipod touch. fun game IMO

[flashNsmash]

dunno if the ipod touch can convey the subtle intricacies of the control system bud

[AMERICAN BONES]

needs to work on his head movement

he needs work on his defense in general, but his offense is so smooth, his combos are off the chain hes gonna make for some good fights, might not win them all but his fights are gonna be all action all the time

[AMERICAN BONES]

Haye and Klitschko is finally happening.

http://www.boxingscene.com/klitschkos-manager-haye-fight-99-done-6-25-7-2--36680

lol chisora got screwed twice now but fuck it, i cant wait for this shit

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

cannot say i've ever seen a david haye fight, but im gonna go ahead and say klitcho is gonna beat him

[AMERICAN BONES]

cannot say i've ever seen a david haye fight, but im gonna go ahead and say klitcho is gonna beat him

wouldnt surprise me, but haye is gonna be more of a live dog than anyone wlad has fought in a long time, hes probably the fastest fighter wlad will have ever faced, id say of all Wlads opponents haye is most similar to corrie sanders, who bombed wlad out in 2 rounds

[AMERICAN BONES]

ever since this shit like 3 years ago i couldnt wait for this fight to be made
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[INS_tha_rebel]

lol chisora got screwed twice now but fuck it, i cant wait for this shit

Same.

Chisora was gonna get destroyed.

Haye-Wlad is a much better fight.

[INS_tha_rebel]

cannot say i've ever seen a david haye fight, but im gonna go ahead and say klitcho is gonna beat him

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[AMERICAN BONES]

hayes gonna have to keep his hands up against klitschko

[P 2 Tha Mofo J]

he seems tiny

[INS_tha_rebel]

He's 6 ft 3 in. Bigger than a lot of heavyweights.

[INS_tha_rebel]

*taller

[MEHT TRALER FAGIT]

good thing klitschko is a complete can otherwise Haye might have to worry

[AMERICAN BONES]

He's 6 ft 3 in. Bigger than a lot of heavyweights.

hes got a long reach too, hes a little smaller than corrie sanders, and a little taller/longer than sam peter and lamon brewster, the guys that gave wlad the most trouble in his career