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msubulldogfan1
07-21-2008, 11:26 PM
yes

no

strangelov
07-21-2008, 11:28 PM
Yes, because who else is there? No, because Big Nog has beat him enough times already. Let Mir have his crack.

msubulldogfan1
07-21-2008, 11:30 PM
Yes, because who else is there? No, because Big Nog has beat him enough times already. Let Mir have his crack.

see thread in kvol forums...dumbasses think he isnt. They are saying he is a gate keeper lols

strangelov
07-21-2008, 11:41 PM
see thread in kvol forums...dumbasses think he isnt. They are saying he is a gate keeper lols

Heath doesn't get the respect he deserves. Everyone knows him from his UFC debut against O'Brien. Heath is a solid fighter. If he could get a solid win streak under his belt he'd be in the top ten easily.

Mickey
07-21-2008, 11:52 PM
Heath doesn't get the respect he deserves. Everyone knows him from his UFC debut against O'Brien. Heath is a solid fighter. If he could get a solid win streak under his belt he'd be in the top ten easily.


I see what you are saying, but that is still a big if.
I see a huge gap between the top tier heavies and then the rest of the unpolished crowd.
Heath has the abilities, but has to beat some top level guys in order to shake the gatekeeper image.

strangelov
07-22-2008, 12:09 AM
I see what you are saying, but that is still a big if.
I see a huge gap between the top tier heavies and then the rest of the unpolished crowd.
Heath has the abilities, but has to beat some top level guys in order to shake the gatekeeper image.

No doubt that Heath needs improvement. Fedor, Big Nog, Josh, and Randy aren't even on the same level, right now. I think Heath has potential, but I also thought that 5 years ago.

Bobby Curls
07-22-2008, 12:21 AM
No, Heath is through.

msubulldogfan1
07-22-2008, 01:03 AM
No, Heath is through.

do what?

gumby
07-22-2008, 01:26 AM
No, I'm pretty sure Gonzaga would rape him.

He is 2 and 2 in the UFC with a loss to O'Brien and wins over Imes and Kongo.

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/fightfinder/Pictures/Fighter_13.jpg

InternetHero
07-22-2008, 01:28 AM
No.

Because he's not getting a title shot again anytime soon after 3 losing fights with Nog.

If someone beats Nog, then maybe.

Bobby Curls
07-22-2008, 01:32 AM
do what?

Whaaaaa'?

finnegan
07-22-2008, 02:43 AM
Yes. He damned near KO'd Nog, and has excellent GnP (evenit it is only knees to the body). He has to be up there.
(herring < Nog
Herring > Kongo
Kongo > Cro Cop
By MMAth, anyhow.


That being said, Cain Velasquez is very, very intriguing. I'd like to see him fight Herring for a contender slot.

scissors61
07-22-2008, 03:14 AM
I'd say he's past his prime. Then again, you never know. Nogueira could retire.

Bobby Curls
07-22-2008, 04:01 AM
I'd say he's past his prime. Then again, you never know. Nogueira could retire.


http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff30/rector28/emofag.gif

Don Hagliatelli
07-22-2008, 04:27 AM
I'm saying no.

I really like Heath but without the knees on the ground I don't think he can execute his best gameplan.

Mr. Dead Sexy
07-22-2008, 04:33 AM
Yes. He damned near KO'd Nog, and has excellent GnP (evenit it is only knees to the body). He has to be up there.
(herring < Nog
Herring > Kongo
Kongo > Cro Cop
By MMAth, anyhow.


That being said, Cain Velasquez is very, very intriguing. I'd like to see him fight Herring for a contender slot.

Herring > Kongo > CC > Wandy > Saku > Ken > Bas > TK > Fedor. :D

Mr. Dead Sexy
07-22-2008, 04:34 AM
But in all seriousness, yeah, he's tops in the UFC. On the world stage, no, but UFC, definitely.

JihadMeAtHello
07-22-2008, 04:56 AM
Yes, but that just goes to show how weak their HW division is.

Mr. Dead Sexy
07-22-2008, 05:24 AM
Right now, the HW picture is fucked in the UFC

Nog
Werdum
Mir
Cain (flame on)
Lesnar/Herring
Gonzaga
Kongo
Hardonk
Carwin

Mah UFC top 10 HWs. That order. Flame on.

Mr. Dead Sexy
07-22-2008, 05:25 AM
Soon, the HWs in the UFC will be as big a joke as they used to be. When Eilers was challenging for the title. Gawd help us.

SexeCute
07-22-2008, 07:15 AM
Contender, maybe. He needs to beat someone better than Kongo before I make that assumption.

Krazypoison
07-22-2008, 07:47 AM
Yes, but that just goes to show how weak their HW division is.


QFT!
But i'm sure heath will beat up Lesnar anyway.

ArtardFiesta
07-22-2008, 10:17 AM
I misunderstood the question, i was assuming it was top competition in the HW's like top 10 or something similar but now that i notice its a contender in the UFC i would have voted yes instead of no.

Nutstache
07-22-2008, 11:00 AM
Contender - yes.

Serious threat to take the belt - no.

Bang Bang
07-22-2008, 12:24 PM
sadly, yes

mr_yamamoto
07-22-2008, 12:29 PM
sadly, yes

verbatim what i was gonna say.

Jaggamista
07-22-2008, 12:58 PM
Take this shit back to Kvol....

Hektik
07-22-2008, 01:08 PM
Everyone is a contender in the uUFC HW so yes.

Hektik
07-22-2008, 01:08 PM
Ploos he will tool lesnar.

HHJ
07-22-2008, 03:33 PM
yes,but have you had a look at that division? i am also a top contender

Bang Bang
07-22-2008, 04:08 PM
yes,but have you had a look at that division? i am also a top contender

like rico rodriguez

pflo
07-22-2008, 08:28 PM
Hell yes he's a contender. In this crop of hwt fighters, its really not hard to do.

Top 4 imo

Nog
Mir
Werdum
Heath

Course, I'm a Herring fan since the old days.

gumby
07-22-2008, 08:32 PM
Too bad he wont be able to string together 3 wins.

pflo
07-22-2008, 08:35 PM
We'll see. And who can, besides Nog these days? Mir's getting his shot. I think another solid win and a werdum loss will put him in contention.

gumby
07-22-2008, 08:37 PM
He would have to beat Lesnar and then Werdum or Gonzaga to be in contention IMO.

pflo
07-22-2008, 08:43 PM
He would have to beat Lesnar and then Werdum or Gonzaga to be in contention IMO.

I'll buy that. I believe he WILL beat Lesnar too.

California Giant
07-22-2008, 08:44 PM
Hardonk.

Velasquez.

Carwin.

pflo
07-22-2008, 08:49 PM
Hardonk.

Velasquez.

Carwin.

Are?

gumby
07-22-2008, 08:55 PM
Are?

hot?

California Giant
07-22-2008, 09:04 PM
Are?

UFCs top 5= Nog, Werdum, Mir, Gonzaga,+ one of those 3