College football chat anyone?

[Tupac Shakira]

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (54) 0-0 1491
2 Ohio State (3) 0-0 1400
3 Boise State (1) 0-0 1336
4 Florida 0-0 1237
5 Texas (1) 0-0 1223
6 TCU 0-0 1160
7 Oklahoma (1) 0-0 1104
8 Nebraska 0-0 1033
9 Iowa 0-0 1007
10 Virginia Tech 0-0 973
11 Oregon 0-0 870
12 Wisconsin 0-0 822
13 Miami (FL) 0-0 785
14 USC 0-0 590
15 Pittsburgh 0-0 516
16 Georgia Tech 0-0 511
17 Arkansas 0-0 496
18 North Carolina 0-0 397
19 Penn State 0-0 382
20 Florida State 0-0 379
21 LSU 0-0 300
22 Auburn 0-0 296
23 Georgia 0-0 206
24 Oregon State 0-0 198
25 West Virginia 0-0 184


USA Today Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (55) 0-0 1469
2 Ohio State (4) 0-0 1392
3 Florida 0-0 1245
4 Texas 0-0 1240
5 Boise State 0-0 1215
6 Virginia Tech 0-0 1052
7 TCU 0-0 1051
8 Oklahoma 0-0 1035
9 Nebraska 0-0 1001
10 Iowa 0-0 952
11 Oregon 0-0 940
12 Wisconsin 0-0 778
13 Miami (FL) 0-0 728
14 Penn State 0-0 508
15 Pittsburgh 0-0 492
16 LSU 0-0 476
17 Georgia Tech 0-0 455
18 North Carolina 0-0 445
19 Arkansas 0-0 438
20 Florida State 0-0 374
21 Georgia 0-0 312
22 Oregon State 0-0 263
23 Auburn 0-0 260
24 Utah 0-0 169
24 West Virginia 0-0 169

[Tupac Shakira]

VT always gets stuck with a top team in their first game. Last few years we played Alabama, LSU, USC and all these teams went on to win national championships. I'm not saying Boise State is gonna be national champs, but the loser of the September 6 VT/Boise State game is fucked for the season. Anyone see who is favored and what the line is? If we lose hopefully we will still win the ACC and go to a BCS bowl, but we've got a pretty young team. I don't care what anyone says we have the best backfield in the country.

[Tupac Shakira]

And why the hell is Nebraska ranked above us? We beat them last year and they lost a lot of their best players while we pretty much lost no one.

[Gasmasker]

College football chat?

well, okay then.

ROLL TIDE MOTHERFUCKERS!



Since there is really nothing more to be said on the subject, you mods can now feel free to lock this thread and move it to the TCM Museum of Glory.

[super hot]

acc, pac 10, and big east will all suck this year. except for miami

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Oregon has a pretty easy non-conference. Just hope they travel okay to TN.

[super hot]

Oregon will get destroyed in the Rose Bowl again. Big 10 is back

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The Duckies got caught up in the hype. Listening to every 'expert' say all week how they are going to smash Ohio State isn't a good thing for a team.

But we will miss Masoli this year.

[Gasmasker]

Oregon has a pretty easy non-conference. Just hope they travel okay to TN.

Ducks will destroy Tenn. Gonna be a few years until UT scares anybody.

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Yeah the only concern is the travel and new QB, but they should run wild on them.

[Tupac Shakira]

acc, pac 10, and big east will all suck this year. except for miami

We will kick the shit out of them again this year.

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[Tupac Shakira]

http://www.behindthenet.org/imgs/miamiFailure.jpg

[flashNsmash]

i watched some CIS highlights today, some surprisingly decent plays

[snipe]

UW national champs 2010

[Buckner1986]

I'm a Nebraska fan. That being said, I think they are a top 15 team and will play in (and probably lose) the Big XII Championship game this year.

[Tupac Shakira]

I'm a Nebraska fan. That being said, I think they are a top 15 team and will play in (and probably lose) the Big XII Championship game this year.

The VT/Nebraska game last year was a classic.

[scorchamatic]

http://caninemascots.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/uga.jpg

[Buckner1986]

The VT/Nebraska game last year was a classic.

True. I can't believe they are going to muck up the game on Monday night with those terrible looking uniforms.

[Tupac Shakira]

True. I can't believe they are going to muck up the game on Monday night with those terrible looking uniforms.

WAH?

[Tupac Shakira]

They look pretty sweet to me.

http://www.hokiesports.com/SIPhotos/images/procombat2010.jpg

[Tupac Shakira]

"The Nike Pro Combat System of Dress captures the essence of Virginia Tech while delivering significant performance benefits. The uniforms are 37 percent lighter than current designs, relieving players of extra weight in a game that demands top speed. Even when wet, these uniforms are lighter than their standard-issue counterparts when completely dry. Dual-density foam padding provides critical protection and greater mobility than traditional pads for unencumbered speed. The Nike Pro Combat base layer allows for specific pad placement to suit every position, providing a highly customized solution."


Sounds good and the shoes are nice.

[Tupac Shakira]

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Ninja is crying to some Gaga right now IMO

[California Giant]

ugly ass jerseys and ugly ass game. Getting squashed.

[California Giant]

The black irish can grenade just got a pick. ball was thrown floated to him

[Tupac Shakira]

This game is gonna put me into an early grave. I'm just glad we got the momentum now. When that guy came in untouched and blocked the punt, I took a basketball, threw it against the wall and had it come back and smack me in the face.

[stargazer]

http://caninemascots.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/uga.jpg
:beerbang:

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This game is gonna put me into an early grave. I'm just glad we got the momentum now. When that guy came in untouched and blocked the punt, I took a basketball, threw it against the wall and had it come back and smack me in the face.

:pomlnut:

[Tupac Shakira]

The black irish can grenade just got a pick. ball was thrown floated to him

Um, it was floated to him cause he is a wide receiver and it was a pass from our quarterback.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=381545

[California Giant]

floated to him

[Tupac Shakira]

I don't understand what you are saying leftcoast. Marcus Davis is a WR and the ball was "floated to him" because that is a good thing for our quarterback to do.

[California Giant]

floated right to his hands

[Tupac Shakira]

floated right to his hands

Well it's supposed to be. He is a WR. Oh and Hokies take the lead.

[flashNsmash]

fuckin floaters

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I hope MNS threw a golf ball that time

[Tupac Shakira]

Horseshit.

[Boxhead]

lol don't worry your probably win the acc and get in a bcs game

[Buckner1986]

Take that as a little bit of revenge from the Husker nation from last year, bud.

[Buckner1986]

lol don't worry your probably win the acc and get in a bcs game

QFT.

If you're gonna lose one, you want it to be the first game of the year.

[Boxhead]

boise can still lose to fresno state or oregon state maybe hawaii can pull the upset

[Buckner1986]

Boise plays Oregon and Utah I think.

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Oregon doesn't play them this year. They play Oregon State.

[Buckner1986]

The late hit penalty was a bunch of bullshit though. You can't throw that flag.

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And Oregon State has very little chance.

[Boxhead]

nah fresno and oregon state

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The late hit penalty was a bunch of bullshit though. You can't throw that flag.

For sure. And I was rooting for BSU.

[Buckner1986]

Oregon doesn't play them this year. They play Oregon State.

Oh. I thought that they played in Oregon this year to make up for Oregon going to Boise last year.

[Tupac Shakira]

The late hit penalty was a bunch of bullshit though. You can't throw that flag.

That's what I was saying horseshit about. Congrats to the refs, for ruining one of the best football games I've ever seen.

[Buckner1986]

Kellen Moore is going to win the Heisman IMO.

[Boxhead]

all those games are at home nevermind

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They came to Eugene the year before. Oregon lost to them then, too. That game started out as a massacre, like 28 point lead or something, and came back to within a TD and the ball back, but couldn't pull it out.

[Buckner1986]

Bunch of good games next week. Sucks Florida State/Oklahoma and Notre Dame/Michigan are on at the same time.

[Boxhead]

the ref blew the whistle when the wr stepped out of bounds vt guy still went for the tackle blame the crowd noise

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That's what I was saying horseshit about. Congrats to the refs, for ruining one of the best football games I've ever seen.

They already got the first down. I wouldn't consider an extra 15 on first down 'ruining' with plenty of time left.

all those games are at home nevermind

Yup.

Oregon State was destined to start 1-2 at best going on the road to TCU and BSU.

[Boxhead]

all I know is the ole miss fuckin sucks

[Buckner1986]

They came to Eugene the year before. Oregon lost to them then, too. That game started out as a massacre, like 28 point lead or something, and came back to within a TD and the ball back, but couldn't pull it out.

I remember now.

[Tupac Shakira]

the ref blew the whistle when the wr stepped out of bounds vt guy still went for the tackle blame the crowd noise

HE DIDN'T BLOW THE WHISTLE, THAT'S THE BS. I heard the whistle, when the guy hit him.

[Buckner1986]

all those games are at home nevermind

Boise has won 44 in a row at home.

[Tupac Shakira]

They already got the first down. I wouldn't consider an extra 15 on first down 'ruining' with plenty of time left.





I guess we'll never know then.

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I guess we'll never know then.

No, we already know. Boise won. It was a bad crappy call, but it happens.

[Tupac Shakira]

SHUT STOOL!

[super hot]

denard robinson is going to win the heisman

[super hot]

throwback uniforms for nd and michigan are sick

http://blog.eastbay.com/all/adidas-unveils-new-michigan-notre-dame-uniforms/

[California Giant]

I like asu's new jerseys

[Tupac Shakira]

These aren't throwbacks but are pretty cool.

[super hot]

i meant retro style.

[super hot]

What sounded really fishy at first now looks even worse. Much worse. On Monday, reports of documents that Oregon released about Will Lyles' very expensive recruiting service of a "National" package for 2011 recruits revealed that 133 of the 140 prospects were from Texas -- and all the recruits listed were actually from the 2009 class. This looks only more dubious knowing that Lyles -- the Texan at the center of this -- has been a mentor to former five-star running back recruit Lache Seastrunk, who signed with the Ducks in February of 2010, less than one month after Oregon shelled out $25,000 for Lyles' "recruiting services."

There is also another curious aspect of Oregon's reaction to the Lyles recruiting service dustup: Where is the video that he should have provided? I spoke with several in-house recruiting coordinators on Monday and Tuesday and each said that for $25,000, Lyles better have provided a lot of video. Not just game film, but cut-ups as well for recruits in Texas and Louisiana and Florida and Georgia and California ...

According to the Register-Guard, an Oregon spokesman said that because Ducks coaches typically file their videos under a recruit's name, they don't document from whom they received the videos. That explanation didn't sound logical to any of the sources I spoke to, who pointed out that any service that sends DVDs will have the company logo on it.

When the NCAA investigated the matter in Oregon, what evidence of this extensive service was the Ducks program able to provide? It will have to be a better answer than what they told the newspapers.

(I texted coach Chip Kelly for comment after the report came out, but haven't heard back from him.)

It is also worth noting here that in the past few years the NCAA has tried to close a gaping loophole that existed with recruiting services. The NCAA enacted legislation for the 2010-11 academic year that affected what programs can and cannot purchase. The legislation was passed and put into effect in January 2010, so it was in effect at the time of Oregon's purchase of Will Lyles' service.

The big problem with the loophole was related to basketball recruiting. The NCAA established criteria that these recruiting services needed to meet, such as providing quarterly updates, among other things. One of the in-house recruiting coordinators I spoke with explained that the legislation, which initially said you couldn't buy only video from such services, didn't understand the way many legitimate football recruiting services operate. The videos, such as game tape and cut-ups, are the primary product recruiting services provide college football programs. The tricky part, the source said, is that in recent years some recruiting services have also been touting that they'll provide the colleges with a connection to recruits, as well.

"They'll tell you, 'Well, I'll call a kid and tell him to call you,'" the source explained. "'I'm an avenue for you. I talk to these players and tell them what you want. Call me and I'll tell you who the players are in that area.'"

Such services are acting as middle men, and in essence are also selling their relationships after they have gotten close to elite recruits in their given area. If the services also provide their share of recruiting film, they've been able to operate in a gray area.

But where does that leave Will Lyles and Oregon?

Also released on Monday were records showing that Oregon running backs coach Gary Campbell made 27 calls to Lyles during that time and received 11 calls from Lyles. According to the Register-Guard, the Oregon records also show around 400 text messages exchanged between Lyles and Ducks coaches over the past four years. Coach Chip Kelly exchanged a total of 12 texts with Lyles on the two days before Jan. 17, 2008, when UO received a verbal commitment from LaMichael James. The running back from Texas has since emerged as a star for Oregon and has described Lyles as an advisor.

When the NCAA spoke to Oregon earlier this spring, the Ducks had better have been able to show more proof than what was released by the newspaper -- or they'd better hope the NCAA buys that they were hoodwinked by Will Lyles.

[super hot]

more stuff for wig about his cheating ducks

From @realjuanpablo: Do you think the Oregon Ducks will get out of this mess?

Things have been looking worse and worse for Oregon since this story broke a few months ago, with the release of each new report and each new detail. When Will Lyles sat down with Yahoo! for that story that ran on July 1, it really painted a bad picture for the Ducks and coach Chip Kelly.

The good news for Oregon: There is still a lot of gray area in how the NCAA handles recruiting services, and as I explained a few weeks ago, this is an area where they've been struggling to sort things out. (This is made evident by the NCAA's first attempt at creating legislation having to do with recruiting services: It initially said teams couldn't buy only video from such services, basically showing that the NCAA didn't understand the ways in which many legitimate football recruiting services operate.)

The bad news: Lyles' story, as he's now telling (and seems comfortable telling the NCAA), is going to be very hard for Oregon to defend. His actions likely would get him classified as a booster. Worse still is that he's basically telling reporters that 11 months after Oregon paid him $25,000, Kelly and another staffer contacted him to get him to scramble to send them some kind of recruiting materials, which sounded a lot like a cover-up was in the works.

Here's where the Will Lyles-as-a-viable-recruiting-service explanation is going to fall apart: Major college programs are not shelling out $25,000 for recruiting services sight unseen. Even spending $10,000 is a lot, but Lyles is listed as a "national" recruiting package for Oregon. That means they should've expected, or been paying for, so much more.

Every year at the American Football Coaches Association convention, dozens of recruiting services pitch their merits to college coaches, administrators and in-house recruiting coordinators. What they're all essentially doing is showing the coaches their latest technology and demonstrating just how much game film they can provide in terms of volume, accessibility and sortability. This is high-tech stuff. No one is going up to the coaches with some sort of Tom Lemming-style book or Mel Kiper's guide that is put together at the nearest Kinko's and solely touting his analysis of each prospect for $25,000.

And, as I said Thursday on "Outside the Lines," it's preposterous to suggest that a program would put on their books $25,000 for intel, which is how Will Lyles has been explaining it on his radio appearances after having told Yahoo! last Friday that it was for "influence."

There is a significant difference. Keep in mind, any decent recruiter can figure out who the "champion" (decision-maker or most influential person) is for each prospect. They don't need to pay a Will Lyles for that kind of information. You can get that from a high school coach, parent, older brother or uncle. Having a guy who will act as a middle man, telling a blue-chipper when to call and whom to call, and possibly accompany the prospect on a ride up to a college for a camp or an unofficial visit, or even where he should sign, would be much more valuable to a college program.

It remains to be seen what Oregon has told the NCAA. It's one thing not to be truthful to the media, but it's another thing not to be forthcoming with the NCAA. That's the reason that so many college fans have become familiar with the term "10.1" in the past year.

Two months ago, even a few weeks ago, I was fairly sure Kelly would survive this. Now I'm not so sure.

[super hot]

that's from bruce feldman from espn

[Tupac Shakira]

Wow Oregon is worse than I thought.

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Lol, not even going to get into this. I'll say that the media is ignoring all info that doesn't claim scandal and get hits. but oregon is still looking at a slap on the wrist, if anything. The rules will definitely change though.

[super hot]

The bad news: Lyles' story, as he's now telling (and seems comfortable telling the NCAA), is going to be very hard for Oregon to defend. His actions likely would get him classified as a booster. Worse still is that he's basically telling reporters that 11 months after Oregon paid him $25,000, Kelly and another staffer contacted him to get him to scramble to send them some kind of recruiting materials, which sounded a lot like a cover-up was in the works.

it's funny that you think that they may just get a slap in the wrist. read the following statement. They basically gave him money without anything in return. Who does that? You might think this is a joke but the ncaa doesn't. they put teams on probation and scholarship reduction for less.

[super hot]

but wig knows something on the inside that no one including the reporters covering the situation know.

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It's not that I know more, it's that they ignore it. Cowherd was the first person I've seen mention the additional documents oregon released the day after ever initial ones everyone is having a fit about. We'll see. But I'm not very concerned and have read all the available info.

[super hot]

probation and loss of scholarships are very possible.

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probation is the slap on the wrist i was talking about. but this is a college football problem, not an oregon problem.

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5. more. days.

[super hot]

fucking piece of shit jordan jefferson. lsu would have smashed oregon.

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i wish he was playing still. he's horrible.

[super hot]

good enough to get their team to the sugar bowl

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he had 4 TDs and 10 INTs going into that game. a good defense and a lot of luck got them there.

[super hot]

lol

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what are you laughing at? you know it's true.

[super hot]

i know. that's why i laughed

[super hot]

are you betting this weekend?

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nah. you? i wouldn't let jefferson affect your thoughts on that game. they are going to run the ball 80% of the time anyways. only thing it really hurts them is oregon is used to pro style QBs and jefferson can run.

[super hot]

i think i may play oregon.

[super hot]

if they lose i will neg you until you change your av.

[super hot]

I may play alabama and okla since they're getting all the hype so far

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bsu is a lock against georgia imo

[super hot]

georgia is coming back with a good team. that game may be a shoot out.

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their rb depth went to shit. was going to be stacked but now all they have is a true fr. a very good one, but still.

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and oregon lines were all taken off after the jefferson shit. oregon was -2 before that.

[super hot]

what is it now? I saw it at -1

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there isn't one that i know of. i wouldn't take the ducks at anything worse than 3 for sure though.

[Tupac Shakira]

VT most likely isn't going to be good this year. Not sure why they are ranked so high.

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get used to this face for the next 3 years

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/DEANTHONYTHOMAS11_19150.JPG

[California Giant]

I hope he gets gunned down in his hood

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he does the gunning bud

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are you a stanford or cal fan?

[super hot]

michigan looks good so far. still early and will have to wait til the big ten season starts to see if they've improved.

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i see this year being a lot like last year for them. strong start, struggling at the end.

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oregon shouldn't really be challenged until asu in a few weeks. glad that game is at home. they should have blown missouri out but made stupid mistakes (like they often do). but talent-wise, they are tough for anyone.

[super hot]

at least their d coordinator this year knows how to make adjustments. that goes a long way when you don't have the personnel to handle situations.

[super hot]

next year michigan is going to be awesome. not this year. i see them going 8 - 4 this year.

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Yeah, they will be good soon. Doing a great job snagging ohio kids.

[super hot]

they picked up their future qb for 2013. they will be back running a pro style offense soon.

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their defense is the problem right now, not qb.

oregon has a redshirt fr., true fr, and commit for next year (that michigan offered and usc is still pursuing hard, but is a solid commit) at qb that are all really good at running the read option. 2013 is going to be a battle when DT leaves.

[super hot]

rich rod really fucked up their defense. the 3-3-5 is a piece of shit. the former raven d. coordinator is doing well though. once he gets more players they'll be fine.

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luckily they play in a horribly overrated division. it's there for the taking.

[super hot]

same can be said about the pac 10. if stanford wasn't any good that league would be shit.

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but stanford is good. and oregon. and usc, asu and uw are solid. cal may be good this year too.

[whitey]

what are your picks for:

Utah BYU
Pitt Iowa
Oklahoma FSU

[super hot]

utah
iowa
okla

[whitey]

why utah? i was leaning towards byu

[super hot]

not sure. don't know much about either

[whitey]

lol ok

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Mine are the same as mante. Utah's qb has been looking better and byu only looked good against tx because they suck and played like it. Fucla may beat them again

[snipe]

ucla is going to beat texas again this year saving slick ricks job so he can go 4-12 next year

[super hot]

ucla and washington are horrible this year

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Washington fans are delusional. Wsu finishes better this year.

[Tupac Shakira]

AP

1 Oklahoma (31) 1-0 1440
2 Alabama (10) 2-0 1423
3 LSU (17) 2-0 1417
4 Boise State (2) 1-0 1307
5 Florida State 2-0 1195
6 Stanford 2-0 1161
7 Wisconsin 2-0 1091
8 Oklahoma State 2-0 1035
9 Texas A&M 1-0 1025
10 South Carolina 2-0 892
11 Nebraska 2-0 889
12 Oregon 1-1 846
13 Virginia Tech 2-0 827
14 Arkansas 2-0 770
15 Michigan State 2-0 602
16 Florida 2-0 515
17 Ohio State 2-0 459
18 West Virginia 2-0 416
19 Baylor 1-0 371
20 South Florida 2-0 351
21 Auburn 2-0 348
22 Arizona State 2-0 308
23 TCU 1-1 161
23 Texas 2-0 161
25 Mississippi State 1-1 124




USA Today Poll
1 Oklahoma (44) 1-0 1453
2 Alabama (8) 2-0 1410
3 LSU (7) 2-0 1372
4 Boise State 1-0 1214
5 Florida State 2-0 1211
6 Stanford 2-0 1165
7 Oklahoma State 2-0 1072
8 Wisconsin 2-0 1033
9 Texas A&M 1-0 1001
10 Nebraska 2-0 911
11 South Carolina 2-0 863
12 Virginia Tech 2-0 842
13 Arkansas 2-0 825
14 Oregon 1-1 754
15 Michigan State 2-0 639
16 Ohio State 2-0 566
17 Florida 2-0 498
18 Arizona State 2-0 353
19 Auburn 2-0 331
20 West Virginia 2-0 304
21 Texas 2-0 260
22 South Florida 2-0 230
23 TCU 1-1 211
24 Baylor 1-0 171
25 Mississippi State 1-1 125

[Tupac Shakira]

We finish undefeated and beat FSU in ACC championship and we are in the National Championship. It helped not having to play a top 5 team in the first week like the last 7 years. We lost a lot of people, but Marcus Davis and David Wilson are killing it. The QB Logan Thomas needs to be more accurate with his passing but he is a great runner that plows through linebackers like a fullback. He is 6'6'' 254 and runs a 40 in 4.6. He's a sophomore so he should get better as the season goes on.

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I wish oregon had vtech's schedule

[Tupac Shakira]

Also there's no way Oklahoma is better than Alabama.

[Tupac Shakira]

I wish oregon had vtech's schedule

We do have an easy schedule this year. Usually we have one of the toughest in the country so I ain't complaining.

[Tupac Shakira]

Who else doe Oregon play that's good? Not trying to put you down, just wondering.

[snipe]

Washington fans are delusional. Wsu finishes better this year.

trolls gotta troll

[snipe]

We do have an easy schedule this year. Usually we have one of the toughest in the country so I ain't complaining.

washingtons had the toughest schedule in the country the past few years

[super hot]

We finish undefeated and beat FSU in ACC championship and we are in the National Championship. It helped not having to play a top 5 team in the first week like the last 7 years. We lost a lot of people, but Marcus Davis and David Wilson are killing it. The QB Logan Thomas needs to be more accurate with his passing but he is a great runner that plows through linebackers like a fullback. He is 6'6'' 254 and runs a 40 in 4.6. He's a sophomore so he should get better as the season goes on.

lol you guys barely beat east carolina and could only manage 17 points against their horrible defense.

[Tupac Shakira]

lol you guys barely beat east carolina and could only manage 17 points against their horrible defense.

I know. They always play us tough though. Even beat us a couple years ago. Like I said, we aren't that good this year but some guys are really performing well. They are only gonna get better so we will see. Marcus Davis and David Wilson are monsters though. This QB could be a 1st round draft pick in a couple years if he gets better accuracy.

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Who else doe Oregon play that's good? Not trying to put you down, just wondering.

i dunno, couple of top 5 teams, asu and usc.

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trolls gotta troll

honestly i think it may be close. they've looked great against competition uw has looked crappy against. sdsu this weekend will tell if they are going to be a challenge or not. but, could legit see wsu starting 5-0 (they'll likely slip) and uw being 2-3 to start the season.

boise just got smacked in the mouth. 3 years probation, scholarships and practices reduced.

[super hot]

if that's the case with boise, then oregon and ohio st are going to get fucked.

[super hot]

if oklahoma comes to the pac 12 that will be the end of the oregon dominance of that league.

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oregon hasn't necessarily done something wrong yet but you can still talk out of your ass if you want.

if everyone comes and makes a pac 16, there will be no dominant team. but there will be two automatic bcs games.

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oklahoma is apparently coming

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1263940

[Tupac Shakira]

Is this for next year or the year after?

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i'm guessing next year since a&m would be in the sec in 2012

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espn still says different.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/6965871/source-oklahoma-sooners-not-decision-pac-12-move-seeking-stability

[California Giant]

if oklahoma comes to the pac 12 that will be the end of the oregon dominance of that league.

USC will be on top of the conference again within the next couple of years. Ill say 4, but i wouldnt be surprised if it happens even while they are getting fucked.

[snipe]

honestly i think it may be close. they've looked great against competition uw has looked crappy against. sdsu this weekend will tell if they are going to be a challenge or not. but, could legit see wsu starting 5-0 (they'll likely slip) and uw being 2-3 to start the season.

boise just got smacked in the mouth. 3 years probation, scholarships and practices reduced.

it could be a good game, im not sold on wsu though. i mean, UW has been bad, but even with our 0-12 wsu has been BAAAAAAAAAD

the next few weeks will definitely tell the story.

we arent losing to california though. utah im not sure about, i dont know shit about them.

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espn still says different.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/6965871/source-oklahoma-sooners-not-decision-pac-12-move-seeking-stability

from the article you posted. do you read anything beyond the titles? everything in it says they are probably going to come.

"However, Texas officials left the weekend meeting with Oklahoma officials convinced the Sooners plan to apply for Pac-12 membership, a Texas source told ESPN's Joe Schad.

"They want to go. We'd like for them to stay. It was disappointing," a Texas source confirmed to ESPN."

it could be a good game, im not sold on wsu though. i mean, UW has been bad, but even with our 0-12 wsu has been BAAAAAAAAAD

the next few weeks will definitely tell the story.

we arent losing to california though. utah im not sure about, i dont know shit about them.

i'm not sold on them either, but that's why i said sdsu will tell us a lot. if they do well, i could see wsu winning some games in the pac.

and mansion has been doing well for cal which is all they were missing last year (well, not all) - a qb

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mante just hates the fact that the pac is about to become the biggest and best conference in football.

and lc is delusional if he thinks that usc is going to be dominant with kiffen as their coach.

[super hot]

actually the sec is still the best.

[super hot]

five national champions say so

[Tupac Shakira]

SEC is definitely the best even if The Pac ten gets those teams IMO.

[super hot]

These are the rankings once this shit goes down

1. SEC
2. Pac 16
3. B1G (til OSU and Mich are back)
4. ACC
5. MWC cause Big East sucks balls.

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lol ok. if the pac gets those teams, they'll get two automatic bcs bids too. that says enough to me.

[super hot]

B1G will probably add Missouri and Notre Dame sometime soon as well.

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big east is getting tcu next year, mwc sucks without them

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nd is going to stay independent.

[super hot]

ND needs to establish a new recruiting base that the B1G will give them. They'll join eventually.

[super hot]

Texas will be independent. They make too much money with their longhorn network. That's the only reason why all this is happening.

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Tx can have the network with the pac, just would have to share with tech.

[super hot]

now why would they share the millions of dollars in revenue? they can have just as much money by being independent.

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Tx will get the same tv revenue as every other pac school, network or not. It will be even split. But the pac's deal is worth more than they can get solo. The only question is if they want to try and big brother people. If they want control, they go by themselves. If they aren't babies and will take the money, they come west.

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article is from a pay site so i'll paste it

The Pac-12 appears to be working out the final details of a deal that would bring Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech to the conference, a well-placed source close to the situation told Hookem.com on Sunday morning. Nothing has been accepted or approved, yet, but the deal would allow the Longhorns to keep the Longhorn Network. Texas would have to add Pac-12 (soon to be 16) content to the LHN programming.

The Longhorns would be able to keep all of their revenue from the network if that amount is greater than one-sixteeth of what the entire Pac-12 receives for its third-tier rights. However, if one-sixteenth of the money the Pac-12 receives from third-tier rights ends up being a larger amount, the schools would divide the revenue evenly and everybody would receive the same amount, the source said.

For football, the conference will be aligned in four four-team pods with Texas being joined by Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

Texas will play those schools every year.

How will the overall playing schedule work out for football?

As of right now, the conference is discussing an alignment where teams would play ninc conference games. Teams would play every other team in their pod along with two teams from each of the other three pods.

If the Longhorns were in Pod A, they would play the other Pod A teams (Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech) every year. They would also play two teams from Pod B, Pod C and Pod D, bringing the total to nine conference games every year.

It is believed the championship game would be decided by overall conference record, meaning any two teams could play in the championship game on a given year.

The source said they expect that the Texas board or regents will vote Monday to authorize Longhorn president Bill Powers to make a decision regarding realignment.

interesting that there will be four divisions.

[snipe]

funny i was just telling my buddy that i think that would happen sometime in the near future

[Tupac Shakira]

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 LSU (42) 4-0 1471
2 Oklahoma (12) 3-0 1422
3 Alabama (5) 4-0 1413
4 Boise State (1) 3-0 1280
5 Oklahoma State 4-0 1209
6 Stanford 3-0 1205
7 Wisconsin 4-0 1177
8 Nebraska 4-0 991
9 Oregon 3-1 985
10 South Carolina 4-0 950
11 Virginia Tech 4-0 883
12 Florida 4-0 820
13 Clemson 4-0 744
14 Texas A&M 2-1 734
15 Baylor 3-0 659
16 South Florida 4-0 585
17 Texas 3-0 466
18 Arkansas 3-1 434
19 Michigan 4-0 417
20 TCU 3-1 338
21 Georgia Tech 4-0 298
22 West Virginia 3-1 280
23 Florida State 2-2 239
24 Illinois 4-0 179
25 Arizona State 3-1 112


1 Oklahoma (32) 3-0 1434
2 Alabama (7) 4-0 1404
2 LSU (20) 4-0 1404
4 Stanford 3-0 1225
5 Boise State 3-0 1223
6 Oklahoma State 4-0 1172
7 Wisconsin 4-0 1156
8 Nebraska 4-0 1040
9 South Carolina 4-0 976
10 Virginia Tech 4-0 935
11 Oregon 3-1 914
12 Florida 4-0 817
13 Texas A&M 2-1 681
14 South Florida 4-0 631
15 Clemson 4-0 598
16 Baylor 3-0 528
17 Texas 3-0 525
18 Arkansas 3-1 432
19 Michigan 4-0 414
20 TCU 3-1 364
21 Georgia Tech 4-0 333
22 Illinois 4-0 181
23 West Virginia 3-1 158
24 Florida State 2-2 157
25 Michigan State 3-1 153



Our schedule is turning out to be a difficult one. We are now playing 3 ranked teams.

[super hot]

Michigan is moving up

[Mr. Thick Dick]

Bama vs LSU should be a nailbiter.

[super hot]

that game is going to be awesome. can't wait

[CensoredToezFlava]

Wisco will probably win the championship.

[CensoredToezFlava]

Badger game at the Hard Rock sports book

http://oi51.tinypic.com/24xjsky.jpg

[super hot]

I won another $500 this week on college football

[Tupac Shakira]

You've mentioned that once or twice.

[super hot]

because i've won that amount two different times.

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gameday in eugene this weekend. it's about two hours away, not sure if i'm going down the night before or staying up all night and leaving at 2 or 3 am. either way, kickoff is 7:15, gonna be a shit show of a day.

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http://i53.tinypic.com/24gvn29.png

[whitey]

Michigan is moving up

Not anymore!

[Kimo Therabones]

POW!

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mante is about to see his team have a winless november again too

[super hot]

lol, if they reach 9 wins that will be an accomplishment this year. next year is when they should really start seeing results.

I'm even more convinced that Stanford is going to destroy oregon this year. Luck was awesome in the second half against WSU

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against who again? oregon just beat a top 20 team by two TDs without two pre-season heisman candidates.

[super hot]

Andrew Luck will shred their defense. Oregon doesn't play well on the road either. Stanford will win by ten.

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oregon's secondary will be the best he faces all year. it's going to be a shootout most likely and come down to the wire. oregon won't lose by double digits though, that's for sure. unless they give up several turnovers.

[super hot]

I think since Luck utilizes his TE's so effectively it really doesn't matter how good their secondary is. It will come down how well Oregon's LB's can cover.

[super hot]

and lol @ considering Darron Thomas a heisman candidate. The only Heisman candidates that should have even been considered at the start of the year are Luck, Landry Jones, and Richardson.

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Stuckey and clay are solid in coverage. And like it or not, dt was on about everyone's preseason list.

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huge recruiting weekend for the ducks turned out better than expected. castro decommited from uw and came here, cottrell committed, dj foster has oregon on top and plans an announcement in the next two weeks, and the number one safety and d-tackle moved the ducks to the top of their lists. cautiously optimistic about them both though

[super hot]

this is in reference to that safety

I have an official visit with Notre Dame this weekend, and I also set up a trip to Michigan for November. I’m not sure on my last visit but it will probably be to Arizona State. After my trips are done, I’ll sit down with my family and hopefully make my decision sometime in January.”

Once he sees Michigan he'll commit.

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you're an idiot. he's likely a cal commit, unless they tank. but he's not leaving the west coast either way and certainly not going to michigan.

michigan isn't even on his list for top schools.

[super hot]

once he takes his official visit they will be. read his quote, buddy.

and lol @ DT being on anyone's preseason heisman list. the analysts that did should be fired for not being able to evaluate contenders.

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this quote, from yesterday?

I really liked Oregon. It was a great experience for me to get up and see the facilities and all that. I like Washington too. (He has 3 former Grant teammates there) I still need to go to Notre Dame, probably Michigan and probably Arizona State

sure sounds excited.

or this quote, from this morning?

My top 3 in order are Oregon, Cal and Washington

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from today as well

“Oregon is right there with them both at the top,” Thompson said. “They’re all even, and I like a lot about all three schools. I’m not ready to name a leader but Oregon definitely gave me a lot to think about.

[super hot]

along with the other quote i previously posted.

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and i said that he will likely end up at cal, and michigan has no chance.

[super hot]

Not sure why he would even take an official visit to a college if he didn't think they had a chance. And everyone knows that in recruiting a lot can change when they take an official tour of the campus.

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because it's a free trip to a fun football game? kids take visits they aren't serious about all the time. adolphus washington and dwayne stanford are coming to eugene, but there's next to no chance either will come here. it's not like michigan's campus is anything special.

[CensoredToezFlava]

I bet these guys want to go to Wisco

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nobody wants that bud

[CensoredToezFlava]

You are crazy. Wisco has been a top program forever.

[CensoredToezFlava]

In football and basketball. There are about 4-5 other colleges that are as good at both.

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only people that want to live there were born and too lazy to leave

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oregon's basketball program is going to be legit now. they decided they cared all the sudden

[CensoredToezFlava]

only people that want to live there were born and too lazy to leave

We breed some fucking athletes then.

You should read about UW-Madison. It is a huge party school. Top 5 in the nation, but you need like a 3.75 gpa to get in. Even the nerds here party harder than the faggots in the rest of the country.

[CensoredToezFlava]

It's a hippie town. You would love it.

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i dont think you know what hippie town means. the technique they use to blow bongs was created in eugene

[CensoredToezFlava]

I am not trying to out hippie Eugene. Christ, it if was Eugene, I could smell the BO from here.

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:snob:

[CensoredToezFlava]

I would love to party in Oregon though. Probably a fun place too

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both are pretty chill i'm sure.

[super hot]

oregon's basketball program is going to be legit now. they decided they cared all the sudden

Michigan is going to be awesome next year. Tim Hardaway Jr is the man.

[snipe]

shawn kemp jr >

[super hot]

there probably is about five of those

[CensoredToezFlava]

lol at only 5

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Michigan is going to be awesome next year. Tim Hardaway Jr is the man.

*jabari brown and dominic artis

and i think they have a good shot at rosco allen too

[super hot]

glenn robinson jr in 2013 >

[super hot]

Tom VanHaaren of WolverineNation on ESPN.com reports that Stefon Diggs (Olney, Md./Good Counsel), the No. 10 overall prospect on the ESPNU 150 and the No. 2 overall receiver in the country, has his eye on the Michigan Wolverines.

Diggs' high school teammate, Blake Countess, recently won a starting cornerback job with the Wolverines, and that made a big difference for Diggs. "At first I was a little shaky with Michigan, because I knew Blake was one of the best guys out there but he wasn't playing," he said. "Then I noticed that he's gotten the starting job. He worked for it and won it, and that makes me feel more comfortable that they'll play the best guys."

"As of right now I don't have a top list anymore. It had been previously released, but I'm coming out with a top seven on Nov. 29, on my birthday," he said. "I have to focus right now on my season, but I plan on visiting Michigan some time in December."

Diggs adds that he'd like to announce his decision with a press conference on ESPN once his high school season ends.

[Tupac Shakira]

Hokies gonna be moving on up.

[Mr. Thick Dick]

Looks like Bama and LSU will rematch for the national championship. Roll Tide!

[super hot]

By next week Michigan will be in the national championship game.

VTech will probably be the worst #3 team ever.

[Tupac Shakira]

By next week Michigan will be in the national championship game.

VTech will probably be the worst #3 team ever.

Pretty damn good for a rebuilding year none the less. They won't be ranked 3rd though.

[super hot]

Did wig drink himself to death on saturday? where is he?

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jail

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Tom VanHaaren of WolverineNation on ESPN.com reports that Stefon Diggs (Olney, Md./Good Counsel), the No. 10 overall prospect on the ESPNU 150 and the No. 2 overall receiver in the country, has his eye on the Michigan Wolverines.

Diggs' high school teammate, Blake Countess, recently won a starting cornerback job with the Wolverines, and that made a big difference for Diggs. "At first I was a little shaky with Michigan, because I knew Blake was one of the best guys out there but he wasn't playing," he said. "Then I noticed that he's gotten the starting job. He worked for it and won it, and that makes me feel more comfortable that they'll play the best guys."

"As of right now I don't have a top list anymore. It had been previously released, but I'm coming out with a top seven on Nov. 29, on my birthday," he said. "I have to focus right now on my season, but I plan on visiting Michigan some time in December."

Diggs adds that he'd like to announce his decision with a press conference on ESPN once his high school season ends.

Oregon is stealing Brown from Michigan

[super hot]

who is brown?

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pharaoh brown. he was a michigan commit but decommited and visited oregon saturday. not a big time guy though. dwayne stanford was a long time tOSU lock and was there saturday, sounds like a good chance of a commit tomorrow from him.

i think arik armstead is going to commit but not for a while. usc is losing out big time with how they're handling his brother.

[super hot]

The 6-5, 220-pound pass rusher is now believed to be strongly considering Oregon, but he has not ruled out the Wolverines either.

[super hot]

oh well 3 star recruit is not a big loss.

[JihadMeAtHello]

it's fucking sad that a legit top five-eight school, boise state is relegated to playing in tonight's maaco bowl against a .500 team. both team's fanbases travel well and will help bolster our crap economy, but i'd rather see boise be in a bcs game and not a vt team who plays in a down and out acc conference with two twenty point losses or a michigan team who plays in the joke of the big ten conference and whose play is about as consistent and predictable as the dance moves of the wacky waving inflatable flailing arm man found outside your local mexican tire shop.

[super hot]

michigan would have smashed boise.

[JihadMeAtHello]

pffft. don't let your fanhood pull the bcs wool over your eyes.

[super hot]

whats the weather? the o/u jumped down to 64.5

[super hot]

i'm going to take the over.

[JihadMeAtHello]

it's nice out now but it should be real fucking windy by the second quarter

[super hot]

i took the over either way. It's not that windy out here.

[JihadMeAtHello]

this is gonna be a laugher. better hope az st can put some points up

[Tupac Shakira]

Leave VT's name out of your mouth or you will get shot.

[super hot]

vtech going to get smashed next week

[Gasmasker]

michigan would have smashed boise.
lol

[super hot]

they would.

[Gasmasker]

they would.
no fucking way. I'll grant you Michigan is improving and I will be nervous as hell when they play Bama next year but no way this year's Michigan team beats Boise with Kellen Moore.

[super hot]

boise defense is a joke. they allowed a ton of points to a sdsu team that michigan killed. logic by solid.

[Tupac Shakira]

lol

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i wish oregon could play michigan.

[Tupac Shakira]

I'm tempted to put a few bucks on Michigan but I could never do that lol.

[Tupac Shakira]

i wish oregon could play michigan.

I wish you would post more with that awesome AV of yours.

[super hot]

looks like oregon is going to have their hands full with usc next year. oregon's run is now over.

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looks like oregon is going to have their hands full with usc next year. oregon's run is now over.

it's going to be a close game and we'll play them twice. they haven't released the schedule yet, but rumor is they are going to do it in september. match up between top five teams both times, gonna be fun.

[super hot]

barkley will have ten td's against their defense.

[Tupac Shakira]

Charles or Gnarls?

[Boxhead]

mns did you watch the doc A Game of Honor on showtime about the army/navy game

[Tupac Shakira]

No. I read the description and it said something "Go behind the scenes of these two incomparable football programs." So I said no thanks. The whole doc is comparing them.

[Boxhead]

lol

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barkley will have ten td's against their defense.

:potogold:

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http://www2.registerguard.com/mm/images/uploads/cache/a1rosebowlBD021204-586x0.jpg

[snipe]

i fucking hate that duck

[super hot]

only took nearly a hundred years. good game.

good win for michigan today. their program will only get better.