strikeforce vs. bellator

[shadyasfok]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/30/1783965/strikeforce-and-bellator-bosses-telling-two-different-stories-on

bjorn rebney seems to be the next gary shaw, imo

[shadyasfok]

ttt

[dr drake ramoray]

Bellator cuz they got mah nigga askren

[shadyasfok]

ben askren talked shit about gsp

[dr drake ramoray]

I don't give a fuck. You don't have friends who don't like each other? Kind of the same thing.

[dr drake ramoray]

If they got beef that's their deal just don't put me in the middle

[shadyasfok]

diaz subs askren in the first round

[shadyasfok]

the only competitive strikeforce vs. bellator fight would be alvarez vs. melendez

everything else would be a murder

[gumby]

Are you kidding? Hector Lombard is s fucking BEAST

[shadyasfok]

jacare subs him, imo

[dr drake ramoray]

lol Diaz and jacare are fucking cans

[gumby]

jacare subs him, imo

Lombard KOs him in the first round

[shadyasfok]

Lombard KOs him in the first round

no

[shadyasfok]

lol Diaz and jacare are fucking cans

:no:

[gumby]

no

Sad but true, bud. Jacare couldn't handle his power.

if the fight ever goes down, I'd av bet you in a heart beat.

[shadyasfok]

ppl also said that jacare would get outstruck by tim fuckin kennedy, WHAT

[dr drake ramoray]

Who cares?

[gumby]

Who cares?

[shadyasfok]

Who cares?

do you hate jacare or something? this is the second straight fight of his where i've seen you slating him for no reason at all

[dr drake ramoray]

do you hate jacare or something? this is the second straight fight of his where i've seen you slating him for no reason at all

He's an overhyped Brazilian can.

[shadyasfok]

He's an overhyped Brazilian can.

he's beaten almost everyone put in front of him, hasn't he. haters gonna hate

[shadyasfok]

and who has hector lombard beaten who's even on the level of any of jacare's past opponents?

[gumby]

That's irrelevant, MMAMath doesn't work.

[shadyasfok]

it's not mmath. if you say jacare is overhyped, you better have some evidence to prove lombard isn't

[shadyasfok]

i like it when vitor belfort beats lindland, it's ZOMG ZOMG HES THE MAN

when jacare beats him, it's "meh, he's a can anyway"

[gumby]

it's not mmath. if you say jacare is overhyped, you better have some evidence to prove lombard isn't

wtf are you talking about?

[dr drake ramoray]

So overeem is overhyped but jacare isn't? CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

[shadyasfok]

So overeem is overhyped but jacare isn't? CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

there's no comparison. overeem's biggest fuckin win at HW is brett fucking rogers

jacare has actually beaten some solid opponents: villasenor, lindland, mayhem. i like his chances against mousasi in a rematch as well.

[shadyasfok]

overeem's next best win at HW is a guy from Iron Ring, wtf

[dr drake ramoray]

there's no comparison. overeem's biggest fuckin win at HW is brett fucking rogers

jacare has actually beaten some solid opponents: villasenor, lindland, mayhem. i like his chances against mousasi in a rematch as well.

I've seen you call all those guys cans. Try again.

[shadyasfok]

I've seen you call all those guys cans. Try again.

they're not as big of cans as the guys hector lombard has been facing though

[gumby]

Jacare has been KOd twice, Lombard KOs people for a living.

Lombard took Gegard to a decision, Jacare couldn't make it out of the first round.

[shadyasfok]

Jacare has been KOd twice, Lombard KOs people for a living.

lombard has not beaten anyone but fucking scrubs. jacare might not have beaten world beaters but he's beaten some solid middle of the road guys who are much better than anyone on lombard's record

[gumby]

lol, they share victories over some of the same opponents, solid. you can't have it both ways.

[dr drake ramoray]

they're not as big of cans as the guys hector lombard has been facing though

And this has what do with my assertion that jacare is an overhyped can?

[gumby]

Lombard's only two loses are decisions to Gono (submitted Gegard and Mach) and Mousassi

[shadyasfok]

lol, they share victories over some of the same opponents, solid. you can't have it both ways.

so lombard's beaten guys like villasenor, mayhem and lindland?

[gumby]

so lombard's beaten guys like villasenor, mayhem and lindland?
Did I say that? WTF is your problem, man?

[HOODS]

i like it when vitor belfort beats lindland, it's ZOMG ZOMG HES THE MAN

when jacare beats him, it's "meh, he's a can anyway"

im gonna make a really crazy observation here, but im pretty sure its the way vitor won as opposed to the way jacare won is the difference in the two fights. I know, i know, crazy stuff.

[HOODS]

*waits for solid to say a win is a win.

[shadyasfok]

Lombard took Gegard to a decision, Jacare couldn't make it out of the first round.

maia took anderson to a decision, marquardt couldn't make it outta the first round. pwnt

[shadyasfok]

im gonna make a really crazy observation here, but im pretty sure its the way vitor won as opposed to the way jacare won is the difference in the two fights. I know, i know, crazy stuff.

both vitor and jacare finished lindland inside of 1 round

[dr drake ramoray]

so lombard's beaten guys like villasenor, mayhem and lindland?

The guys you just admitted to calling cans?

[shadyasfok]

*waits for solid to say a win is a win.

you're acting like jacare won a close decision or some shit, wasn't the case at all

[shadyasfok]

The guys you just admitted to calling cans?

they're better than lombard's opponents, that's my whole point

[gumby]

maia took anderson to a decision, marquardt couldn't make it outta the first round. pwnt

How is that 'pwnt'? Silva wasn't trying to finish Maia and you know it. Are you implying that Gegard was playing with Lombard but serious with Jacare? Dude....

[gumby]

Oh wait, I get it. You're saying that Anderson couldn't finish Maia. Okay, gotcha.

[gumby]

TALK SHIT NOW!!

[HOODS]

*waits for solid to say a win is a win.

VVVVVVVVVVV

both vitor and jacare finished lindland inside of 1 round

when u can predict what someone will say its kinda boring to argue with them.

[dr drake ramoray]

they're better than lombard's opponents, that's my whole point

Oh so they're cans one moment amd solid fighters the next? lol

[shadyasfok]

How is that 'pwnt'? Silva wasn't trying to finish Maia and you know it. Are you implying that Gegard was playing with Lombard but serious with Jacare? Dude....

styles make fights. the point is a fighter finishing another fighter faster than someone else doesn't mean shit

[HHJ]

except when you are trolling

[shadyasfok]

How is that 'pwnt'? Silva wasn't trying to finish Maia and you know it. Are you implying that Gegard was playing with Lombard but serious with Jacare? Dude....

and mousasi KO'ed jacare with an upkick. chances of that happening again are slim. see fitch vs. alves for details

[shadyasfok]

VVVVVVVVVVV



when u can predict what someone will say its kinda boring to argue with them.

that's completely different than saying a win is a win. it's not like jacare had a close war with him. they both disposed their opponents in dominant fashion

[shadyasfok]

Oh so they're cans one moment amd solid fighters the next? lol

better than lombard's

[shadyasfok]

i don't know how you can argue that jacare hasn't beaten better competition than lombard has. none of them are world beaters but they're still better than the complete tomato cans on lombard's record

[gumby]

I don't see how you completely dismiss Lombard all together and say he would get murdered by Jacare. I'm guessing you've never even seen him fight.

[shadyasfok]

I don't see how you completely dismiss Lombard all together and say he would get murdered by Jacare. I'm guessing you've never even seen him fight.

i said jacare would sub him, deal with it

[gumby]

And I said that Lombard will KO him, you deal with it.

[gumby]

I don't see how you completely dismiss Lombard all together and say he would get murdered by Jacare. I'm guessing you've never even seen him fight.

[gumby]

bet that is a fact

[shadyasfok]

i'd take jacare over maia, sonnen and vitor right now

and seeing the way shields struggled with kampmann, it's no wonder he bailed to the ufc. he don't want none of this

http://i30.tinypic.com/vpewr5.jpg

[dr drake ramoray]

And I said jacare is an overhyped can. Deal with that.

[gumby]

gifoflombard6secondko1.gif

gifoflombard8secondko2.gif

[shadyasfok]

And I said jacare is an overhyped can. Deal with that.

that really has nothing to do with him choking out hector lombard, does it

[dr drake ramoray]

i'd take jacare over maia, sonnen and vitor right now

and seeing the way shields struggled with kampmann, it's no wonder he bailed to the ufc. he don't want none of this

http://i30.tinypic.com/vpewr5.jpg

Seeing the way jacare struggled against tim kennedy it's no wonder he's not in the UFC

[shadyasfok]

Seeing the way jacare struggled against tim kennedy it's no wonder he's not in the UFC

struggled? what fight were you watching, faget

[gumby]

nobody is gonna submit Lombard. Nobody.

[shadyasfok]

jacare is prolly the worst possible matchup for shields. better striking, equal grappling, and he's bigger and stronger, more explosive, etc

[dr drake ramoray]

that really has nothing to do with him choking out hector lombard, does it

I'm not talking about lombard you dipshit.

[dr drake ramoray]

struggled? what fight were you watching, faget

Yeah jacare looked real good in that fight LOL

[shadyasfok]

vitor beat terry martin and lindland, and suddenly got his ass back into the ufc, lol. jacare should be in the ufc just as much as anyone

[shadyasfok]

Yeah jacare looked real good in that fight LOL

he outstruck the supposedly superior striker and even rocked him a couple times. pretty good for a supposedly one dimensional grappler

[shadyasfok]

I'm not talking about lombard you dipshit.

then why was your response to me posting "jacare subs lombard", calling him an overhyped can?

[dr drake ramoray]

JACARE OUTSTRUCK TIM KENNEDY HE SHOULD BE IN THE UFC NOW

[shadyasfok]

JACARE OUTSTRUCK TIM KENNEDY HE SHOULD BE IN THE UFC NOW

you're ignoring that he destroyed lindland in the first round as well. which was the same opponent belfort had right before he was invited back to the ufc

[dr drake ramoray]

then why was your response to me posting "jacare subs lombard", calling him an overhyped can?

I don't know, maybe because he's an overhyped can?

[shadyasfok]

it's not like vitor looked great against fuckin terry martin either

[dr drake ramoray]

you're ignoring that he destroyed lindland in the first round as well. which was the same opponent belfort had right before he was invited back to the ufc

Yeah that's the one and only reason vitor is in the ufc.

[shadyasfok]

Yeah that's the one and only reason vitor is in the ufc.

vitor hasn't looked impressive in most of his fights after he was cut from the ufc, bud.

<table class="wikitable sortable"><tbody><tr><td>18–8</td> <td>2009-01-24</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(187, 255, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td> Matt Lindland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Lindland)</td> <td>Affliction: Day of Reckoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affliction:_Day_of_Reckoning)</td> <td>KO (Punches)</td> <td>1</td> <td>0:37</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Anaheim, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaheim,_California), US</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>17–8</td> <td>2008-07-19</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(187, 255, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td> Terry Martin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Martin_%28fighter%29)</td> <td>Affliction: Banned (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affliction:_Banned)</td> <td>KO (Punches)</td> <td>2</td> <td>3:12</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Anaheim, California, US</td> <td><small>Debut at Middleweight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleweight) (185 lbs)</small></td> </tr> <tr> <td>16–8</td> <td>2007-09-22</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(187, 255, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td> James Zikic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Zikic)</td> <td>Cage Rage 23: Unbelievable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_23)</td> <td>Decision (Unanimous)</td> <td>3</td> <td>5:00</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England) London, England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_England)</td> <td><small>Won Cage Rage World Light Heavyweight Title</small></td> </tr> <tr> <td>15–8</td> <td>2007-04-21</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(187, 255, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td> Ivan Serati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Serati)</td> <td>Cage Rage 21: Judgement Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_21)</td> <td>TKO (Punches)</td> <td>1</td> <td>3:47</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England) London, England</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>14–8</td> <td>2006-10-21</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(255, 221, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td> Dan Henderson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Henderson)</td> <td>PRIDE 32: The Real Deal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_32)</td> <td>Decision (Unanimous)</td> <td>3</td> <td>5:00</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Las Vegas, Nevada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas,_Nevada), US</td> <td><small>Tested positive for banned substance after fight</small></td> </tr> <tr> <td>14–7</td> <td>2006-07-02</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(187, 255, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td> Yoshiki Takahashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshiki_Takahashi_%28mixed_martial_artist%29)</td> <td>PRIDE Critical Countdown Absolute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRIDE_Critical_Countdown_Absolute)</td> <td>KO (Punch)</td> <td>1</td> <td>0:36</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) Saitama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saitama,_Saitama), Japan</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>13–7</td> <td>2006-06-09</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(255, 221, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td> Alistair Overeem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Overeem)</td> <td>Strikeforce: Revenge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeforce:_Revenge)</td> <td>Decision (Unanimous)</td> <td>3</td> <td>5:00</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) San Jose, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose,_California), US</td> <td><small>Heavyweight bout</small></td> </tr> <tr> <td>13–6</td> <td>2005-12-03</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(187, 255, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td> Antony Rea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Rea)</td> <td>Cage Rage 14: Punishment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_14)</td> <td>KO (Uppercut)</td> <td>2</td> <td>1:14</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England) London, England</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>12–6</td> <td>2005-04-23</td> <td style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(255, 221, 221); color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td> Alistair Overeem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Overeem)</td> <td>PRIDE Total Elimination 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRIDE_Total_Elimination_2005)</td> <td>Submission (Guillotine Choke)</td> <td>1</td> <td>9:36</td> <td>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) Osaka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka), Japan</td> <td><small>PRIDE 2005 Middleweight Grand Prix Opening Round</small></td></tr></tbody></table>

[shadyasfok]

yet he was invited back to the ufc with that kind of record and you're saying jacare doesn't deserve to be in the ufc?

[dr drake ramoray]

So jacare isn't an overhyped can because vitor is in the ufc. That's what your saying here. Do you realize how retarded that is?

[dr drake ramoray]

Jacare is an overhyped can.

NO HE'S NOT VITOR IS IN THE UFC

wtf?

[gumby]

4 KOs and 1 TKO. yeah, looks like shit.

[shadyasfok]

vitor is the most overrated fighter ever. he's lost to almost everyone good he's fought. his biggest wins are a cut stoppage over randy, a knockout of wand over 10 years ago and a win over franklin who anderson already has beaten twice

[dr drake ramoray]

vitor is the most overrated fighter ever. he's lost to almost everyone good he's fought. his biggest wins are a cut stoppage over randy, a knockout of wand over 10 years ago and a win over franklin who anderson already has beaten twice

Please explain the relevance to my statements regarding jacare

[shadyasfok]

Please explain the relevance to my statements regarding jacare

why is jacare overhyped?

[dr drake ramoray]

why is jacare overhyped?

I've already explained this. Maybe if you spent some time trying to comprehend what people are posting instead of rambling about shit that doesn't apply to what is being discussed you could keep up.

[HOODS]

why is jacare overhyped?

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j65/thechancellor989/mma_e_ufc11601_8001.jpg

[dr drake ramoray]

Hoods just went solid on solid

[dr drake ramoray]

Jacare isn't an overhyped can because vitor is in the UFC and Brock would win the rematch because sonnen doesn't train bjj.

[HOODS]

http://cainvelasquez-fans.com/images/img_originals/cain_velasquez_vs_ren_rothwell__3/ufc_104_velasquez_vs_rothwell_20091027_1509126465. jpg

[shadyasfok]

http://cainvelasquez-fans.com/images/img_originals/cain_velasquez_vs_ren_rothwell__3/ufc_104_velasquez_vs_rothwell_20091027_1509126465. jpg

that's not even brock. fucking fail

[shadyasfok]

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t169/Inspectorchao/Chuck%20Liddell/BelfortLiddellexchangefullspeed.gif

[shadyasfok]

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t169/Inspectorchao/Anderson%20Silva/SilvaSubmitsHenderson.gif

[shadyasfok]

http://en.susumug.com/pride/060505/susumu04.jpg

[shadyasfok]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pBWa31-QiJk/TCfEenZRUlI/AAAAAAAACCo/gZASEd5sneA/s640/SF+Werdum+Fedor.JPG

[shadyasfok]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zgFF8nROMZ0/SVcjYAiyFrI/AAAAAAAAFr8/6EdO3qUP_MI/s400/rampage-jackson-wanderlei-silva-knockout.jpg

[dr drake ramoray]

AND HERE WE GO

[shadyasfok]

http://www.hero-s.com/03eventresult/20070917/07_kharitonov_overeem/07_kharitonov_overeem_13.jpg

[shadyasfok]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qgdlatjP64g/TGWfNDY0mUI/AAAAAAAAAj0/7HRNATzaWgY/s1600/Couture-vs-Belfort-3.jpg

[HOODS]

that's not even brock. fucking fail

REALLY? its not?? damn dude i totally thought that was brock.


holy shit u r dumb.

[shadyasfok]

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/news/2004_08/1962.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0107/mma_sd_couture_belfort_300.jpg

http://www.knucklepit.com/_tufc49%20couture%20vs%20belfort347%209.jpg

http://www.knucklepit.com/_tufc49%20couture%20vs%20belfort7.jpg

http://en.susumug.com/ufc/040821/susumu18.jpg

[HOODS]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qgdlatjP64g/TGWfNDY0mUI/AAAAAAAAAj0/7HRNATzaWgY/s1600/Couture-vs-Belfort-3.jpg

thats not brock, fail.

[shadyasfok]

REALLY? its not?? damn dude i totally thought that was brock.


holy shit u r dumb.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/jasondye2933/WandVsChuckLiddell.jpg

[dr drake ramoray]

Solid keep it up with the spamming and you'll get a timeout. I know this is what you do when you mentally break, but it's rather annoying.

[shadyasfok]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0615/mma_g_silva_franklin2_576.jpg

[HOODS]

http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2010/07/03/0703_ufc116_lesnarcarwin001_t320.jpg


http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh243/smr22873/Picture369.jpg


http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j65/thechancellor989/mma_e_ufc11601_80011new.jpg

[gumby]

hahah

[shadyasfok]

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/551245/mirko-filopivic_wanderlei-silva.gif

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n93/evilkane/silva_vs_crocop_ii_ko-1.jpg

[ArtardFiesta]

lol, jesus solid

[dr drake ramoray]

http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2010/07/03/0703_ufc116_lesnarcarwin001_t320.jpg


http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh243/smr22873/Picture369.jpg


http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j65/thechancellor989/mma_e_ufc11601_80011new.jpg

Sorry solid but this is pretty lol

[ArtardFiesta]

I'm going to be really worried about you after Rampage loses to Machida.

[dr drake ramoray]

Solid really lost it in here lol

[shadyasfok]

Sorry solid but this is pretty lol

you already hopped off the lesnar wagon, so why apologize now

[shadyasfok]

machida sucks

[dr drake ramoray]

:rofl:

[ArtardFiesta]

machida sucks

Rampage sucks more

[HOODS]

Rampage sucks more

artard makes a very good counter point here.

[WAR SYNTHOL]

can vs can

[HHJ]

artards been totally on point latley since hes concentrated the full power of gottentoism onto solid

[WAR SYNTHOL]

brett rogers decisioned warpath he might think about returning to cabrini green

[HHJ]

yeah i heard about that...i had higher hopes for the lyrical jesse james

[WAR SYNTHOL]

brett rogers vs ken shamrock I'd watch it I'd love to see Ken gotten to as Rogers Arlovski's him