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AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:22 AM
$3.3 million payroll, $1.5 million to AA, it was nice knowing you Affliction, BTW Larry Merchant pwnt you guys on HBO calling you a t-shirt maker paying Oscar De La Hoya $5 million to show up.

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:24 AM
dude shut the fuck up already.

You dont like affliction, we get it.

No need to make a thread about it when your stupid comments on the subject can be seen in multiple other MMA threads, assface.

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:25 AM
i just think they are fuckin retards, how does fedor make 300K and have no win bonus, while arlovski makes 1.5mil base and another 250K if they win and barnett makes 500K base, its stupid

Shogun Marcus
01-25-2009, 03:26 AM
$3.3 million payroll, $1.5 million to AA, it was nice knowing you Affliction, BTW Larry Merchant pwnt you guys on HBO calling you a t-shirt maker paying Oscar De La Hoya $5 million to show up.

And Larry Merchant is drunk every time HBO has a fight. "When the wind blows... And the leaves shake from the limbs of the tree... Does chin of Klitschko come into question? That my friends with the ultimate riddle we are left with here tonight."

WTF?

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:26 AM
competition for UFC is bad!!! UFC monopoly=good, right????

fuckin moron.

And lol at larry merchant's fucking mummified ass stealing a line for dana white, he already calls affliction mma "the t-shirt guys"...

gay thread made by a gay man.

Decommissioner
01-25-2009, 03:26 AM
I bet you Fedor made a lot more than Arlovski.

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:28 AM
i just think they are fuckin retards, how does fedor make 300K and have no win bonus, while arlovski makes 1.5mil base and another 250K if they win and barnett makes 500K base, its stupid

u really think fedor only made 300k? When his manager and his manager's parent company funded the event and promoted it? Seriously you can't be as dumb as you are coming off in this thread.

Shogun Marcus
01-25-2009, 03:29 AM
i just think they are fuckin retards, how does fedor make 300K and have no win bonus, while arlovski makes 1.5mil base and another 250K if they win and barnett makes 500K base, its stupid

I wouldn't be surprised if M-1 picked up a bit of the check just getting their name on there. And if that is just the pay then Arlovski made the right choice and Fedor is a fool fighting for less than what he could have made in the UFC. If Fedor isn't making more than 2 mil a fight then either he's dumber than he looks, or he really meant it when he said he didn't want to sign with the UFC for other reasons than financial.

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:29 AM
competition for UFC is bad!!! UFC monopoly=good, right????

fuckin moron.

And lol at larry merchant's fucking mummified ass stealing a line for dana white, he already calls affliction mma "the t-shirt guys"...

gay thread made by a gay man.

show me compitition for the UFC, you cant can you?

two shows, almost zero promoting and bankrupt isnt compitition, i never said compition is bad you stupid fuck, but when it comes along let me know, its a bunch of fucking idiots throwing all their money down the drain, id rather see al the fighters in one org where they can all fight each other, if you get all the fighters in one org, they can join together and attempt to create a union of sorts, with all of them spread out, with different company and different owners that can never happen

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:29 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if M-1 picked up a bit of the check just getting their name on there. And if that is just the pay then Arlovski made the right choice and Fedor is a fool fighting for less than what he could have made in the UFC. If Fedor isn't making more than 2 mil a fight then either he's dumber than he looks, or he really meant it when he said he didn't want to sign with the UFC for other reasons than financial.

adds you to the stupid person list.

HHJ
01-25-2009, 03:30 AM
faggot
youre just butthurt that theres some outside pwn going on you ufc spike tv fucking zombified bitch boy

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:33 AM
show me compitition for the UFC, you cant can you?

two shows, almost zero promoting and bankrupt isnt compitition, i never said compition is bad you stupid fuck, but when it comes along let me know, its a bunch of fucking idiots throwing all their money down the drain, id rather see al the fighters in one org where they can all fight each other, if you get all the fighters in one org, they can join together and attempt to create a union of sorts, with all of them spread out, with different company and different owners that can never happen

a union will never happen in this business, just like vince mcmahon does with wwe, he signs every wrestler as an independent contractor...too many injuries and bullshit to deal with, just like in mma. There are so many fighters that come and go, a union would be pointless.

Affliction is competition to UFC whether u like it or not, thats why ufc ran brock vs. randy for free on spike.

Do me a favor and get your head out of your ass u raving idiot.

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:33 AM
lol right, i bought tonights show, how many of you fuckers stole it, then bitch and complain about UFC having no comp

Shogun Marcus
01-25-2009, 03:34 AM
adds you to the stupid person list.

That actually mean something??? Like this isn't a pot calling the kettle black moment?

Care to explain how? I'm still a bit buzzed, so I'll bite.

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:35 AM
That actually mean something??? Like this isn't a pot calling the kettle black moment?

Care to explain how? I'm still a bit buzzed, so I'll bite.

if you believe fedor only made 300k then you are stupid. Thats it.

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:35 AM
hey hoods you fuck, just tell me affliction put together a good business model and will be around for years to come, cus thats all im fucking saying, they are fucking retarded and fucked up

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:36 AM
lol right, i bought tonights show, how many of you fuckers stole it, then bitch and complain about UFC having no comp

i bought it too, i stream every ufc tho, or go to a bar that shows it. Couldn't tell u the last time i bought a ufc card.

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:36 AM
if you believe fedor only made 300k then you are stupid. Thats it.

so fedor made more than what was reported, did AA make more than what was reported? like whats your point, they still are doing horrible business

HHJ
01-25-2009, 03:37 AM
GOODNIGHT AMERICANBORN go to fuckin sleep allready hater

Shogun Marcus
01-25-2009, 03:37 AM
if you believe fedor only made 300k then you are stupid. Thats it.

Did you not pick up on anything I was saying? I said M-1 would probably be throwing something in besides the 300K that was listed. IF Fedor was making less than two mil he was a fool. Maybe the fact that I didn't write it out in crayon for you is why you missed it.

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:38 AM
hey hoods you fuck, just tell me affliction put together a good business model and will be around for years to come, cus thats all im fucking saying, they are fucking retarded and fucked up

its a better model than the IFL thats for damn sure. They got fighters with names already so they will attract fans instead of trying to build up no name fighters, which i think would be a much worse way to lose your money and a lot faster too.

Affliction will fold eventually, but i just hate people that think having competition for the UFC is bad in any way, why the fuck is it bad?

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:39 AM
haha im a "hater" for calling the guys running affliction idiots, go ahead and follow their business plan hhj, you will go places, im being called a UFC nuthugger for some reason, while you are all over afflictions dick

HOODS
01-25-2009, 03:40 AM
Did you not pick up on anything I was saying? I said M-1 would probably be throwing something in besides the 300K that was listed. IF Fedor was making less than two mil he was a fool. Maybe the fact that I didn't write it out in crayon for you is why you missed it.

a big "if".

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:41 AM
its a better model than the IFL thats for damn sure. They got fighters with names already so they will attract fans instead of trying to build up no name fighters, which i think would be a much worse way to lose your money and a lot faster too.

Affliction will fold eventually, but i just hate people that think having competition for the UFC is bad in any way, why the fuck is it bad?

because im not thinking about the fighters, i hate the system, different orgs that dont promote with each other, i wanna see the best fight the best and the current system makes that damn near impossible, id rather they use boxings system

Gay
01-25-2009, 03:45 AM
Most unnecessary thread of all time.

HHJ
01-25-2009, 03:46 AM
haha im a "hater" for calling the guys running affliction idiots, go ahead and follow their business plan hhj, you will go places, im being called a UFC nuthugger for some reason, while you are all over afflictions dick

youre saying goodnight after a successful show and showcasing the grand winnar of fighters

takin a big shit on a great thing

The Korean
01-25-2009, 03:46 AM
As a fan, why the fuck do you care about their business model? They put on 2 amazing cards for the fight fans and that's good enough for me. I don't care if Affliction goes down. They kicked ass.

Shogun Marcus
01-25-2009, 03:47 AM
because im not thinking about the fighters, i hate the system, different orgs that dont promote with each other, i wanna see the best fight the best and the current system makes that damn near impossible, id rather they use boxings system

Seems like the only one really against co-promotion is the UFC.

HHJ
01-25-2009, 03:47 AM
the big difference between affliction and those other orgs that died (ifl and elitexc) is affliction actually puts on matches that are significant in the global scene of mma and that shit is what people want to see

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:50 AM
As a fan, why the fuck do you care about their business model? They put on 2 amazing cards for the fight fans and that's good enough for me. I don't care if Affliction goes down. They kicked ass.

that means no more amazing cards from them, which is my point, jesus christ haha

AMERICAN BONES
01-25-2009, 03:52 AM
Seems like the only one really against co-promotion is the UFC.

ya but can you blame them?

The Korean
01-25-2009, 03:54 AM
It would be cool if Affliction just had one or two events every year. I really don't think it's realistic for them to try to compete with the UFC.

At least they didn't spend money hiring a live band this time.

HHJ
01-25-2009, 03:54 AM
fedor or gtfo

super hot
01-25-2009, 06:07 AM
Great fights. Place was packed. I wonder how many of them got free tickets like me though.

Holic
01-25-2009, 06:13 AM
u really think fedor only made 300k? When his manager and his manager's parent company funded the event and promoted it? Seriously you can't be as dumb as you are coming off in this thread.

"It was never about the money." - Helio Gracie

super hot
01-25-2009, 06:18 AM
http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/toropreto/affliction-day-of-reckoning/fedor-arlovski-1.gif

Krazypoison
01-25-2009, 09:00 AM
i'd rather say godnight arlovski

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/lordFader/Picture10-1.png

HHJ
01-25-2009, 09:58 AM
arlovski:zzzZZZZzzzzzZZ

Holic
01-25-2009, 10:32 AM
the big difference between affliction and those other orgs that died (ifl and elitexc) is affliction actually puts on matches that are significant in the global scene of mma and that shit is what people want to see

Another difference is that Affliction has an alternate source of income. Unlike IFL, people actually pay money for their shirts in major retail chains.

Buckner1986
01-25-2009, 11:18 AM
Seems like the only one really against co-promotion is the UFC.

And that's the way that it should be in a business sense for the UFC. When you're #1 you shouldn't be helping your competition in any way. Of course we all want to see Fedor/Lesnar and Barnett and Babalu fight some of the UFC guys, but that's not realistically going to happen.


My opinion all last night was:

-they paid their fighters too much compared to the PPV numbers they're going to get (200K maybe)

-production value was better, but still 2 notches below the UFC (Bas for the undercard but not the PPV, WTF?)

-no mention on ESPN's Bottom Line is not good for business

-the only thing that I was really upset about was the fact that they showed the undercard on HDNet so that I was left with an hour and a half of dead air PPV that I payed for at the end of the night.

P 2 Tha Mofo J
01-25-2009, 11:44 AM
yea that WAS BULLSHIT. no nog vs matushenko ftl

Gasmasker
01-25-2009, 11:50 AM
And that's the way that it should be in a business sense for the UFC. When you're #1 you shouldn't be helping your competition in any way. Of course we all want to see Fedor/Lesnar and Barnett and Babalu fight some of the UFC guys, but that's not realistically going to happen.


My opinion all last night was:

-they paid their fighters too much compared to the PPV numbers they're going to get (200K maybe)

-production value was better, but still 2 notches below the UFC (Bas for the undercard but not the PPV, WTF?)

-no mention on ESPN's Bottom Line is not good for business

-the only thing that I was really upset about was the fact that they showed the undercard on HDNet so that I was left with an hour and a half of dead air PPV that I payed for at the end of the night.

I agree on all points. I was fairly impressed with production values but the broadcast team brought the whole thing way down, esp Tito, Zito and that faggy guy. The 90 minutes of dead time at the end was annoying and kind of felt like a fuck-you to ppv buyers as opposed to the thank-you the UFC gives ppv buyers by working in as many undercard fights as possible in that time.


The card itself was very good and I enjoyed most of the fights. If they can put a few more cards like that together while they improve the production and get the finances right maybe they can survive. I hope so.

Tito Vs. Babalu, make it happen!

HHJ
01-25-2009, 11:55 AM
now its time to release the first one on dvd

Buckner1986
01-25-2009, 12:19 PM
I agree on all points. I was fairly impressed with production values but the broadcast team brought the whole thing way down, esp Tito, Zito and that faggy guy. The 90 minutes of dead time at the end was annoying and kind of felt like a fuck-you to ppv buyers as opposed to the thank-you the UFC gives ppv buyers by working in as many undercard fights as possible in that time.


The card itself was very good and I enjoyed most of the fights. If they can put a few more cards like that together while they improve the production and get the finances right maybe they can survive. I hope so.

Tito Vs. Babalu, make it happen!

Fedor/Barnett
Babalu/Tito
Aleks/Sylvia
Nogueira/Buentello
LC Davis/Horodecki

Gasmasker
01-25-2009, 12:29 PM
Fedor/Barnett
Babalu/Tito
Aleks/Sylvia
Nogueira/Buentello
LC Davis/Horodecki

I'd buy it.

They need to bring in Lawler to fight Belfort.

Buckner1986
01-25-2009, 12:40 PM
I'd buy it.

They need to bring in Lawler to fight Belfort.

I read on Bloody Elbow that Belfort is a free agent and you know the UFC needs guys at 185 to make up for Kang shitting the bed. Make it happen, Dana.

Gasmasker
01-25-2009, 12:43 PM
I read on Bloody Elbow that Belfort is a free agent and you know the UFC needs guys at 185 to make up for Kang shitting the bed. Make it happen, Dana.

I'd be happy with that too. Both orgs need guys at 185 and I think Lawler should be fighting for one of the two.

bobby boucher
01-25-2009, 12:48 PM
I bet you Fedor made a lot more than Arlovski. I'm pretty sure Fedor gets a cut of the overall take. So he's more invested in the company, where as AA is just on the payroll. That being said it looks like Affliction is paying better than the UFC and is following the old boxing model for pay structure.

Buckfutts
01-25-2009, 12:49 PM
poo

bobby boucher
01-25-2009, 12:50 PM
now its time to release the first one on dvd

lol, nice

Buckner1986
01-25-2009, 12:55 PM
I'd be happy with that too. Both orgs need guys at 185 and I think Lawler should be fighting for one of the two.

Lawler can't hang in the UFC, he just had two close fights with Scott Smith. He'd be good for Affliction or Strikeforce.

Gasmasker
01-25-2009, 03:03 PM
Lawler can't hang in the UFC, he just had two close fights with Scott Smith. He'd be good for Affliction or Strikeforce.


I think he would be a great pick-up for affliction.

HHJ
01-25-2009, 03:08 PM
I think he would be a great pick-up for affliction.

same
he can be counted on to bring an exciting fight win or lose

Scorpipede
01-25-2009, 04:02 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if M-1 picked up a bit of the check just getting their name on there. And if that is just the pay then Arlovski made the right choice and Fedor is a fool fighting for less than what he could have made in the UFC. If Fedor isn't making more than 2 mil a fight then either he's dumber than he looks, or he really meant it when he said he didn't want to sign with the UFC for other reasons than financial.

I believed when he said it was for other reasons.

Scorpipede
01-25-2009, 04:04 PM
Fedor/Barnett
Babalu/Tito
Aleks/Sylvia
Nogueira/Buentello
LC Davis/Horodecki

Nog/Buentello? Different weight classes no? I'd rather Nog/Tito or Nog/Babalu.

gumby
01-25-2009, 05:05 PM
Fedor/Barnett
Babalu/Tito
Aleks/Sylvia
Nogueira/Buentello
LC Davis/Horodecki

Epic...

gumby
01-25-2009, 05:06 PM
Once Baby Fedor learns how to fight, that dude is gonna be a beast. He can take a fucking ass whoppin.

Buckner1986
01-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Once Baby Fedor learns how to fight, that dude is gonna be a beast. He can take a fucking ass whoppin.

Maybe once his pudgy ass learns how to cut down to 205.

Nice job with closing the news on the front page to avoid spoilers. I bought it and watched it live, but it was a good heads up on your part.

gumby
01-25-2009, 05:33 PM
I want to avoid spoilers at all costs. Wouldn't want people to not post because of the home page.

HHJ
01-25-2009, 05:35 PM
aleks probly not gonna fight in the us


put yvel against sylvia

Shogun Marcus
01-25-2009, 05:36 PM
aleks probly not gonna fight in the us


put yvel against sylvia

Not bad idea there. Neither are gonna take it to the ground, but that just gives Tim more opportunity to jab a shit ton the whole fight.

gumby
01-25-2009, 05:41 PM
I was waiting for Yvel to kick Barnett in the face when his hand was raised.

TONY BONES
01-25-2009, 07:13 PM
:flush: