Why Lyoto "Down's Syndrome Dragon" Machida can't beat Rashad or Rampage

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Black people love kung-fu movies, and that's the key to figuring out Machida's style. Thiago Silva lost because there aren't any kung-fu movies in Brazil therefore he didn't know how to counter Lyoto's Tiger Pussy style of backing up and countering.

[Gasmasker]

:flush:

[Holic]

He looks like a house boy in a Filipino red light district hotel.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

If Thiago had access to such film as ol' dirty kung fu or dragon's claws there is no doubt in my mind he would have crushed Machida.

[SexeCute]

Kyoto via Uni-brow tiger kick.

[Javelina]

they should have a fatal fourway in a cage at the next ufc. fourth could be forest/chuck/wand. maybe have a battle royale for the fourth spot

[Tsar]

rampage doesn't know how to defend kicks. plus he's got a bit of stupid in him. i bet he gets picked the fuck apart by machida.

[Gay]

rampage doesn't know how to defend kicks. plus he's got a bit of stupid in him. i bet he gets picked the fuck apart by machida.

QFT. Machida by dominating UD if he ever faces Rampage.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Rampage will watch several hong kong connection films and KO Machida in the first

[Reags]

I bet the only DVD's Rampage owns are Belly and Friday.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Deebo > Machida

[Gay]

I bet the only DVD's Rampage owns are Belly and Friday.

I figure more Wayans brothers films than you listed.

[Tupac Shakira]

Machida would definitely pick apart Rampage.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Rampage would rock him with a body shot and then uppercut him back to belem brazil

[Tsar]

Machida would definitely pick apart Rampage.

i'd love to see it. i'm tired of watching his big mouth flapping and listening to him belching out idiotic bullshit.

[Tsar]

Rampage would rock him with a body shot and then uppercut him back to belem brazil

i wouldn't be surprised to see machida throw him onto his back and get the mount.

[Gay]

i'd love to see it. i'm tired of watching his big mouth flapping and listening to him belching out idiotic bullshit.

The novelty of Rampage has worn off on me as well

[HHJ]

its hard to say
no one has figured out the mystery of the scorpion mortal kombat punch yet
and rampage has been picked apart by forrest so

[Decommissioner]

I've been a fan of his since he made 'Sausage Tits' Hoger look like a scrub for 3 rounds.

[Scorpipede]

I've been a fan of his since he made 'Sausage Tits' Hoger look like a scrub for 3 rounds.

I'm not a fan because it took three rounds. I like that he finished Silva though. I'd pick Page to beat him. Tito gave Machida the most trouble I've seen and Page is Tito plus striking.

[___]

I can't wait to see all the new Machida fans after he wins the title. They'll all say they were fans for years.

He would have won that round 10-8, too.

[stulecanem]

Black people love kung-fu movies, and that's the key to figuring out Machida's style. Thiago Silva lost because there aren't any kung-fu movies in Brazil therefore he didn't know how to counter Lyoto's Tiger Pussy style of backing up and countering.

Most of the time we are aligned in our tastes in man-flesh, but this time I am afraid we must part company.

The Dragon will be champion before the year is over.

[Scorpipede]

Thiago Silva is a Wanderlei standup clone with better ground game. Brawlers will always get picked apart by Lyoto.

[stulecanem]

I can't wait to see all the new Machida fans after he wins the title. They'll all say they were fans for years.

He would have won that round 10-8, too.

QFT

He's been in my top 3 favorites ever since I looked him up on youtube to find out "who was this unknown who knocked out Franklin".

I can see how casual fans might find his style boring, because they are looking for 30 second knockouts every fight, but I can't understand how any true fan of the sport cannot appreciate a guy who can do what he does.

He has completely turned the entire concept of what was thought to be the perfect style of MMA - wrasslin, bjj and Muay Thai- upside down. He's the exact opposite of the MMA prototype today, which is essentially GSP. Rather than rely on physical domination he uses perfect defense and brilliant (yes brilliant) counterstriking to make his opponents look silly.

The uppercut/trip combo followed by the KO was one of the coolest things I've seen in a fight.

Lyoto in '08

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

sftiu faget

[Buckner1986]

I bet the only DVD's Rampage owns are Belly and Friday.

Don't forget State Property.

[Tsar]

QFT

He's been in my top 3 favorites ever since I looked him up on youtube to find out "who was this unknown who knocked out Franklin".

I can see how casual fans might find his style boring, because they are looking for 30 second knockouts every fight, but I can't understand how any true fan of the sport cannot appreciate a guy who can do what he does.

He has completely turned the entire concept of what was thought to be the perfect style of MMA - wrasslin, bjj and Muay Thai- upside down. He's the exact opposite of the MMA prototype today, which is essentially GSP. Rather than rely on physical domination he uses perfect defense and brilliant (yes brilliant) counterstriking to make his opponents look silly.

The uppercut/trip combo followed by the KO was one of the coolest things I've seen in a fight.

Lyoto in '08

holy shit. stoolie isn't trolling here.

[Decommissioner]

Stoolcannon just made his most intelligent post in Internet history

[Snacks]

QFT

He's been in my top 3 favorites ever since I looked him up on youtube to find out "who was this unknown who knocked out Franklin".

I can see how casual fans might find his style boring, because they are looking for 30 second knockouts every fight, but I can't understand how any true fan of the sport cannot appreciate a guy who can do what he does.

He has completely turned the entire concept of what was thought to be the perfect style of MMA - wrasslin, bjj and Muay Thai- upside down. He's the exact opposite of the MMA prototype today, which is essentially GSP. Rather than rely on physical domination he uses perfect defense and brilliant (yes brilliant) counterstriking to make his opponents look silly.

The uppercut/trip combo followed by the KO was one of the coolest things I've seen in a fight.

Lyoto in '08

Much less magnetic, Machida will never be a superstar, even if he should win out for the rest of his days in MMA's historically greatest division. However, his baffling stylistic dominance climbed to a new height at UFC 94. He completely torched fellow former 13-0 Brazilian Thiago Silva in the greatest performance of his career, perhaps putting a pacifier into the collective mouth of his naysayers.

St. Pierre's Kyokushin karate background has been prominent in molding him into the well-rounded modern MMA prototype. Machida's traditional Shotokan karate style, however, has allowed him to devise a fight style that hadn't been dreamt of.

It has been presumed for nearly the last decade that the blueprint for MMA had been designed and that the "proper" way to fight had been discovered. The developmental stages of the sport had seemingly disposed of myriad traditional martial arts, while preaching that muay Thai, wrestling and jiu-jitsu were the "correct" way forward.

Machida's dominance, especially in the light of his brutalization of Silva, instructs us further about possibility in this sport. Are we really evolved as we think? Do we really know all there is to know about the essence of prizefighting?

So long as Machida continues to parry his way to prominence, we may have to concede that we're not all knowing about combat and we may have to table the muay Thai-wrestling-BJJ myth. In this case, ignorance may actually be exciting, as we see more fighters test the efficacy of traditional martial arts in the cage. Can wing chun be next, please?

I wonder which came first, hmmm?

[gumby]

Jordan Breen is a fag

[Scorpipede]

Jordan Breen is a fag

*starts a slow clap*

[maxthesilent]

*starts a slow clap*

punts scorp in the nuts

[stulecanem]

I wonder which came first, hmmm?

I thought-stole part of my post from a yahoo sports article, not mr. breen.

[Scorpipede]

punts scorp in the nuts

por que?


everyone always breaking up my slow claps

[Demon Cobras]

rampage doesn't know how to defend kicks. plus he's got a bit of stupid in him. i bet he gets picked the fuck apart by machida.

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::c heers::cheers::cheers:

[vincent_vega]

That was a sexy KO, you gotta admit.

[vincent_vega]

Been on Lyoto's nuts forever. Check my post history here and at SD.

[JustScrap435]

Machida will beat both Rampage and Rashad the guy has power and skill.

[Gedanke]

If Thiago had access to such film as ol' dirty kung fu or dragon's claws there is no doubt in my mind he would have crushed Machida.

There is no doubt in my mind that you're probably the worst poster here. And I think that should say a lot right there.

Eat negs, you trolling retard.

[godofdixie]

it would be wise to go ahead and give lyoto the lhw belt, he's just gonna make every other contender look slow and old...except for mr. anderson silva of course

[Snacks]

Actually, I think Rashad Evans would legitimately beat Machida.

[stulecanem]

Actually, I think Rashad Evans would legitimately beat Machida.

Your thinking is incorrect.

[godofdixie]

Your thinking is incorrect.

qft, machida is a rare specimen

[stulecanem]

qft, machida is a rare specimen

He's one of the few hopes for the champion that could go undefeated for years.

Most fighters have holes that can be exposed by certain style matchups. He seems on the surface to be so well rounded and difficult to matchup against that he may be able to overcome that.

[serverbusy?]

i don't see machida beating rashad or rampage

[serverbusy?]

Actually, I think Rashad Evans would legitimately beat Machida.

yep, he won't fall into the trap of chasing machida and if anyone is gonna figure out machida, it's greg jackson. that said, i think this would be an extremely boring fight

[serverbusy?]

lol, machida beats thiago silva, and all of a sudden everyone's saying he's gonna beat rashad and rampage, gimme a fuckin break

[vincent_vega]

i don't see machida beating rashad or rampage

Yes, yes he would.


They would both look silly.

[serverbusy?]

unbelievable

[JustScrap435]

Your thinking is incorrect.

QFT.

Machida has good take down defense and better striking then Rashad.

[Albertan]

lol, machida beats thiago silva, and all of a sudden everyone's saying he's gonna beat rashad and rampage, gimme a fuckin break

Actually most minds were made up before this fight took place.

[___]

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[vincent_vega]

Actually most minds were made up before this fight took place.

Agreed.

[Snacks]

I like how almost everyone is simply saying that Machida will make Rashad look silly, not how he'd do it, or even why. It is to laugh.

[AZGnP]

I actually like Ryoto Machida.

[___]

I like how almost everyone is simply saying that Machida will make Rashad look silly, not how he'd do it, or even why. It is to laugh.

Rashad won't be able to take him down, or close the gap in order to hit him. Machida will start on the outside, move in and out while picking him apart via superior stand up. Rashad's homerun shots will miss by a country mile while Machida will use speed and accuracy to pepper him with shots. Rashad will get frustrated, tire out, and start chasing in the end of the 3rd when Machida will start to connect. He'll TKO him in the 4th.

[stulecanem]

Rashad won't be able to take him down, or close the gap in order to hit him. Machida will start on the outside, move in and out while picking him apart via superior stand up. Rashad's homerun shots will miss by a country mile while Machida will use speed and accuracy to pepper him with shots. Rashad will get frustrated, tire out, and start chasing in the end of the 3rd when Machida will start to connect. He'll TKO him in the 4th.

I think I sum it up best when I say "pwnt"

Great analysis.

I don't see him stopping Rashad but I think it will go exactly like you said other than that.

[___]

I could see a decision, but I think Rashad has shown a suspect gas tank before and after a few rounds of swinging and missing, he'll be tired, chase him, and get caught. Machida makes his opponents look like little boys.

[stulecanem]

True, he might tire him out enough to stop him in a 5 rounder. I'm trying to think when the last time I saw him gassed was though?

[___]

True, he might tire him out enough to stop him in a 5 rounder. I'm trying to think when the last time I saw him gassed was though?

Two fights ago, Bisping. And this is probably pointless. Rampage should beat Jardine and Evans, then he will get to lose to Bisping.

[stulecanem]

Two fights ago, Bisping. And this is probably pointless. Rampage should beat Jardine and Evans, then he will get to lose to Bisping.

You think Bisping will beat Rampage? You done los' yo mine

[Barack Lesnar]

I like how almost everyone is simply saying that Machida will make Rashad look silly, not how he'd do it, or even why. It is to laugh.

it's even more hilarious that all these new fans are coming out of the woodwork after he ko's some b level fighter

[Barack Lesnar]

Rashad won't be able to take him down, or close the gap in order to hit him. Machida will start on the outside, move in and out while picking him apart via superior stand up. Rashad's homerun shots will miss by a country mile while Machida will use speed and accuracy to pepper him with shots. Rashad will get frustrated, tire out, and start chasing in the end of the 3rd when Machida will start to connect. He'll TKO him in the 4th.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl:

[Barack Lesnar]

I could see a decision, but I think Rashad has shown a suspect gas tank before and after a few rounds of swinging and missing, he'll be tired, chase him, and get caught. Machida makes his opponents look like little boys.

when the fuck has rashad gotten ko'ed? and machida has 2 ko's on his record: a young rich franklin and the b level fighter known as thiago silva

[___]

You think Bisping will beat Rampage? You done los' yo mine

No, no, no. Evans gassed against Bisping. Dana said that if Rampage beats Jardine, he gets a shot, and then it's Machida's turn during the post fight press conference. So Rampage will beat Evans and Jardine, then lose to Machida.

I should have put the two things I said in separate paragraphs.

[___]

when the fuck has rashad gotten ko'ed? and machida has 2 ko's on his record: a young rich franklin and the b level fighter known as thiago silva

When has he gone five rounds?

[Barack Lesnar]

Two fights ago, Bisping. And this is probably pointless. Rampage should beat Jardine and Evans, then he will get to lose to Bisping.

i agree about the rampage part, but who's gonna lose to bisping? i dont get it

[Barack Lesnar]

When has he gone five rounds?

when has machida?

[Barack Lesnar]

No, no, no. Evans gassed against Bisping. Dana said that if Rampage beats Jardine, he gets a shot, and then it's Machida's turn during the post fight press conference. So Rampage will beat Evans and Jardine, then lose to Machida.

I should have put the two things I said in separate paragraphs.

rampage will lose to machida? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

this is even more retarded than saying rashad will lose to machida

[___]

i agree about the rampage part, but who's gonna lose to bisping? i dont get it

Bisping is the last time Rashad gassed. I was answering his question.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Steve Cantwell is a better striker than Machida

[Barack Lesnar]

Steve Cantwell is a better striker than Machida

i got cantwell over cane

[___]

when has machida?

Never. He has never shown signs of gassing, either.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

i got cantwell over cane

Same

[stulecanem]

No, no, no. Evans gassed against Bisping. Dana said that if Rampage beats Jardine, he gets a shot, and then it's Machida's turn during the post fight press conference. So Rampage will beat Evans and Jardine, then lose to Machida.

I should have put the two things I said in separate paragraphs.

I agree. with the entire post.

[stulecanem]

it's even more hilarious that all these new fans are coming out of the woodwork after he ko's some b level fighter

I been huggin dude's nuts for a long, long time.

[Barack Lesnar]

rampage will win the title and knock machida out, then rashad will fight machida and knock him out, then machida will go to japan and get knocked out by shamazaki toyotakiri

[HHJ]

....


MACHIDA FTW

[___]

I agree. with the entire post.

Stop that.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

rampage will win the title and knock machida out, then rashad will fight machida and knock him out, then machida will go to japan and get knocked out by shamazaki toyotakiri

An accurate description of what will most likely happen

[Barack Lesnar]

I been huggin dude's nuts for a long, long time.

i was talking in general, there's been like 10 machida threads since the fight

[stulecanem]

Machida is going to make a lot of people eat my turds. I mean eat their words.

[HHJ]

rampage will win the title and knock machida out, then rashad will fight machida and knock him out, then machida will go to japan and get knocked out by shamazaki toyotakiri

http://www.eri.u-tokyo.ac.jp/nikosh/shimazaki04.jpgMachida will not get knocked out by this guy

[stulecanem]

i was talking in general, there's been like 10 machida threads since the fight

I totally agree. From a fan's standpoint it pisses me off because I've been a fan for years and all of a sudden everyone that said he was boring two weeks ago is loving him.

[Barack Lesnar]

Machida is going to make a lot of people eat my turds. I mean eat their words.

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[HHJ]

that nagger cant even beat forrest griffin

[AZGnP]

Why'd they bring Cantwell over but not Brian "the can" Stann?

[Barack Lesnar]

I totally agree. From a fan's standpoint it pisses me off because I've been a fan for years and all of a sudden everyone that said he was boring two weeks ago is loving him.

and it's not like he beat wand or chuck or rampage, he beat thiago silva, who prolly shouldn't even have been in the top 10

[Barack Lesnar]

Why'd they bring Cantwell over but not Brian "the can" Stann?

they did, he's fighting kryyzyzyzyzyzyzzyyzystof sozynski

[HHJ]

and it's not like he beat wand or chuck or rampage, he beat thiago silva, who prolly shouldn't even have been in the top 10

but you thought he would win
epic fail
you should have to lose your virginity to the fine gal in your sig
for this treachery

[Barack Lesnar]

that nagger cant even beat forrest griffin

if you don't think rampage will win the rematch, i don't know what to say

[stulecanem]

and it's not like he beat wand or chuck or rampage, he beat thiago silva, who prolly shouldn't even have been in the top 10

He would make Wandy look stupid and knock him out.

He would beat chuck in a boring fight of circling.

He will probably KO rampage if they meet and they probably will.

[HHJ]

leg kicks FTL!

[Barack Lesnar]

but you thought he would win
epic fail
you should have to lose your virginity to the fine gal in your sig
for this treachery

i always pick against machida, doesn't mean shit

[AZGnP]

they did, he's fighting kryyzyzyzyzyzyzzyyzystof sozynski

Oh. :selfpwn:

[___]

I totally agree. From a fan's standpoint it pisses me off because I've been a fan for years and all of a sudden everyone that said he was boring two weeks ago is loving him.

We can both vouch for each other on that one.

[Barack Lesnar]

He would make Wandy look stupid and knock him out.

He would beat chuck in a boring fight of circling.

He will probably KO rampage if they meet and they probably will.

:no:

[stulecanem]

I love Rampage and will be bummed to see him lose but he will not beat Machida.

[HHJ]

i always pick against machida,

you are a fool

the tide has turned!
PRIDEFC > UFC

[HHJ]

<----------------------- <33333333333333333333

[stulecanem]

We can both vouch for each other on that one.

qft, there have been a few of us that have been ranting about his awesomeness for ages.

[Barack Lesnar]

I love Rampage and will be bummed to see him lose but he will not beat Machida.

yes he will

rampage by murder

[___]

He would make Wandy look stupid and knock him out.

He would beat chuck in a boring fight of circling.

He will probably KO rampage if they meet and they probably will.

I could see him finishing Wand, but not 'Page.

[stulecanem]

yes he will

rampage by murder

:flush:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Machida will make jazz hands and Rampage will smile and then knock the unibrow off his face

[Barack Lesnar]

you are a fool

the tide has turned!
PRIDEFC > UFC

rampage is a pride fighter, dumbass

[HHJ]

page has been koed be4

mostly by wand ;)

[HHJ]

rampage is a pride fighter, dumbass

only when its convenient for you nuthugger

[stulecanem]

I could see him finishing Wand, but not 'Page.

I was thinking style but didn't take into account page's skull. He would just beat the fucking shit out of him for 5 rounds.

Man with Rampage's propensity for eating kicks and moving forward and planting his feet I just see it being an ugly, UGLY fight.

[___]

page has been koed be4

mostly by wand ;)

A roided out gorilla version.

[___]

I was thinking style but didn't take into account page's skull. He would just beat the fucking shit out of him for 5 rounds.

Man with Rampage's propensity for eating kicks and moving forward and planting his feet I just see it being an ugly, UGLY fight.

I agree there. He would take a lot of damage, but dat nigga be havin' a thick skull.

[stulecanem]

Old Manderlei needs to go back to Japan and do more roids before he ends up looking like a garbage sack filled with bones a la mark coleman.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

And all this because Machida knocked out a brawler who is b-level at best

[HHJ]

A roided out gorilla version.

<3

[stulecanem]

And all this because Machida knocked out a brawler who is b-level at best

Machida has made everyone he has fought look stupid for years.

[AZGnP]

I have a hard time believing Machida would beat Rampage or Evans, but I don't see how either would beat Machida, either. I think Rampage has a tendency to get frustrated on the feet, and I don't think his JJ game is good enough to really control Machida on the ground. Also Machida looks to be very strong and well balanced, so I wonder if he can neutralize Rampage's strength. I think Evans' and Rampages explosiveness would have the be the x factor in this fight that could give them wins. But I don't know how.

[HHJ]

everyone knows all it takes to beat rampage is leg kicks

[___]

Machida has made everyone he has fought look stupid for years.

Not Penn. :)

[stulecanem]

I have a hard time believing Machida would beat Rampage or Evans, but I don't see how either would beat Machida, either. I think Rampage has a tendency to get frustrated on the feet, and I don't think his JJ game is good enough to really control Machida on the ground. Also Machida looks to be very strong and well balanced, so I wonder if he can neutralize Rampage's strength. I think Evans' and Rampages explosiveness would have the be the x factor in this fight that could give them wins. But I don't know how.

I think Rashad is a better style matchup against him than Rampage because he's got good hand speed.

Either way, I think Machida has the perfect balance of speed AND power that neither Rampage or Rashad possesses.

Tito is a strong LHW and Machida threw him around.

Soakajew while being an overrated turd is a very strong LHW and Machida threw him around.

I don't think Rampage's physicality would be enough to win the fight. Lyoto would dance around, striking from the outside, chopping him down with kicks and trips.

[stulecanem]

Not Penn. :)

Hand speed FTW. I think Penn is the only person he's lost a round to. Given the style of the fights they both prefer that doesn't surprise me.

[AZGnP]

Off topic: Those trips Machida busts out are fucking pwn. First time I got tripped like that during sparring was fucking embarrassing. They are an excellent move to have.

[stulecanem]

Off topic: Those trips Machida busts out are fucking pwn. First time I got tripped like that during sparring was fucking embarrassing. They are an excellent move to have.

I love how he throws them as a part of a punch/trip combo. Nobody does that except Machida.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I'll be happy when Machida loses so at least for a day I don't have to hear such shit

[Snacks]

Rashad won't be able to take him down, or close the gap in order to hit him. Machida will start on the outside, move in and out while picking him apart via superior stand up. Rashad's homerun shots will miss by a country mile while Machida will use speed and accuracy to pepper him with shots. Rashad will get frustrated, tire out, and start chasing in the end of the 3rd when Machida will start to connect. He'll TKO him in the 4th.

Uhh, Rashad doesn't exactly engage in the same way that all of Machida's previous opponents have done. In the case of both fighters deciding to pull an Uno/Edwards, the decision would most likely go to Rashad. As unfair as that is, it's the case. Furthermore, Rashad Evans and Greg Jackson's Camp as a whole have proven to be very game-plan dedicated. An equally foreseeable outcome to what you have proposed is one in which Rashad simply does his usual lateral movement, using Machida's tendency to back up then pressure him against the cage where Rashad will inevitably get a takedown. And for those of you saying Machida has really good takedown defense, name someone who has been on the same level as Rashad Evans in terms of takedowns that has been nullified by Machida. The correct answer is no one.

Also, it's rather fool-hardy to so brazenly proclaim that Rashad is incapable of taking him down, much less closing the gap.

[stulecanem]

At least we'll always share our love for GSP during those long, hot showers :um:

[___]

I think Rashad is a better style matchup against him than Rampage because he's got good hand speed.

I see where you're going with this, but don't agree. Rashad may be physically quicker, but he doesn't have the footwork to get in the right place to land a punch against him. He's a homerun swinger.

Hand speed FTW. I think Penn is the only person he's lost a round to. Given the style of the fights they both prefer that doesn't surprise me.

Very true. Speed still kills. Sometimes.

[___]

Uhh, Rashad doesn't exactly engage in the same way that all of Machida's previous opponents have done. In the case of both fighters deciding to pull an Uno/Edwards, the decision would most likely go to Rashad. As unfair as that is, it's the case. Furthermore, Rashad Evans and Greg Jackson's Camp as a whole have proven to be very game-plan dedicated. An equally foreseeable outcome to what you have proposed is one in which Rashad simply does his usual lateral movement, using Machida's tendency to back up then pressure him against the cage where Rashad will inevitably get a takedown. And for those of you saying Machida has really good takedown defense, name someone who has been on the same level as Rashad Evans in terms of takedowns that has been nullified by Machida. The correct answer is no one.

Also, it's rather fool-hardy to so brazenly proclaim that Rashad is incapable of taking him down, much less closing the gap.

I like how you try to bust out a vocabulary when proving a point. It's cute.

To answer your question about TD's - Tito. Sokoudjou also has a better TD pedigree, albeit a different style, than Evans.

I won't refute anything else you said because in that long ass paragraph you made like two points. Both of which were horribly inaccurate.

[stulecanem]

Uhh, Rashad doesn't exactly engage in the same way that all of Machida's previous opponents have done. In the case of both fighters deciding to pull an Uno/Edwards, the decision would most likely go to Rashad. As unfair as that is, it's the case. Furthermore, Rashad Evans and Greg Jackson's Camp as a whole have proven to be very game-plan dedicated. An equally foreseeable outcome to what you have proposed is one in which Rashad simply does his usual lateral movement, using Machida's tendency to back up then pressure him against the cage where Rashad will inevitably get a takedown. And for those of you saying Machida has really good takedown defense, name someone who has been on the same level as Rashad Evans in terms of takedowns that has been nullified by Machida. The correct answer is no one.

Also, it's rather fool-hardy to so brazenly proclaim that Rashad is incapable of taking him down, much less closing the gap.

Tito is a turd but his takedowns are easily just as good as Rashad's.

Name someone with great takedown defense that Rashad has put on their back with his awesome takedowns.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

tito had a crippled back and still nearly submitted machida

[stulecanem]

I like how you try to bust out a vocabulary when proving a point. It's cute.

To answer your question about TD's - Tito. Sokoudjou also has a better TD pedigree, albeit a different style, than Evans.

I won't refute anything else you said because in that long ass paragraph you made like two points. Both of which were horribly inaccurate.

:cheers:

[___]

tito had a crippled back and still nearly submitted machida

According to him he had it against Rashad too. Point nullified.

[stulecanem]

tito had a crippled back and still nearly submitted machida

The sun shined on that dog's ass for about 3 seconds of a 14:57 minute humiliation.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

And his back was probably worse in the Machida fight than it was against Evans

[___]

And his back was probably worse in the Machida fight than it was against Evans

Must I point out your arbitrary 'logic' again today? Please don't make me do that.

[Snacks]

Machida got taken down by BJ fucking Penn. Do you really want to talk about having asinine points? And Sokodjou's "pedigree" is nothing but hype and hollow garbage. The man's takedowns in MMA are rarely used and let's not forget that Sokodjou is an utter shitbag who can't fight. As others have previously mentioned, Tito hasn't really been worth a shit in the past 2-4 years.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Must I point out your arbitrary 'logic' again today? Please don't make me do that.

Or what you'll hit me with "GSP cheated" again? k go for it

[SexeCute]

Lyoto is going to clear out the LHW division.

[___]

Machida got taken down by BJ fucking Penn. Do you really want to talk about having asinine points? And Sokodjou's "pedigree" is nothing but hype and hollow garbage. The man's takedowns in MMA are rarely used and let's not forget that Sokodjou is an utter shitbag who can't fight. As others have previously mentioned, Tito hasn't really been worth a shit in the past 2-4 years.

A shit Tito still beat Rashad, the guy you're arguing for. In fact, he did it in the time frame you made. Believe me, I was there.

[SexeCute]

A shit Tito still beat Rashad, the guy you're arguing for. In fact, he did it in the time frame you made. Believe me, I was there.

Rashad is one of the WORST champions in recent UFC history.

[Snacks]

A shit Tito still beat Rashad, the guy you're arguing for. In fact, he did it in the time frame you made. Believe me, I was there.

Uhhhh, Tito lost that fight. You take out his blatant cheating, he never gets the guilliotine. That guilliotine is what got him the round. So I fail to see how Tito "beat" Evans. However, I can see why you would think what you do.

[___]

Uhhhh, Tito lost that fight. You take out his blatant cheating, he never gets the guilliotine. That guilliotine is what got him the round. So I fail to see how Tito "beat" Evans. However, I can see why you would think what you do.

Poor trolling at best.

[Snacks]

Poor trolling at best.

Considering your logic is based on nothing but infantile deductive logic, I fail to see how your argument has any true basis in fact.

[___]

Here we go with the big vocab again.

"Genius may be the ability to say a profound thing is a simple way."

You're trying too hard and it's pretty pathetic.

[Saska]

Rashad is one of the WORST champions in recent UFC history.

Other than Forrest obviously. We will see how Sugar does against Machida before I write him off.

[Snacks]

Here we go with the big vocab again.

"Genius may be the ability to say a profound thing is a simple way."

You're trying too hard and it's pretty pathetic.

It tickles me that your entire argument now is "You're using big words, that's a no-no online." How quaint.

[HHJ]

Rashad is one of the WORST champions in recent UFC history.

nope
hes stepped his game considerably

[___]

It tickles me that your entire argument now is "You're using big words, that's a no-no online." How quaint.

It tickles me that you don't have an argument.

[Snacks]

It tickles me that you don't have an argument.

Truly you are an exemplar of wit. It is to laugh.

[Scorpipede]

Rashad is one of the WORST champions in recent UFC history.

he fuckstomped Liddell and finished Forrest, how does that qualify him as one of the worst?

[___]

Truly you are an exemplar of wit. It is to laugh.

What type of pretentious, Japanese, child-molesting, internet poster uses a phrase like 'it is to laugh, anyway?

[Snacks]

What type of pretentious, Japanese, child-molesting, internet poster uses a phrase like 'it is to laugh, anyway?

Oh u mad, doggie?

[Scorpipede]

i got cantwell over cane

dude, Cantwell lost to Brian Stann the first time. I'm going with Cane in that one.

[Scorpipede]

What type of pretentious, Japanese, child-molesting, internet poster uses a phrase like 'it is to laugh, anyway?

I've been trying to figure out if that's legit english myself. Fuck you Snacks for making me use my thinker.

[___]

Oh u mad, doggie?

There we go. I just wanted the short, gangsta snacks back. Reading a short shit post is much easier on the eyes than a long one.

[Barack Lesnar]

page has been koed be4

mostly by wand ;)

do you really want me to post that gif of their last fight again?

[Barack Lesnar]

Machida has made everyone he has fought look stupid for years.

most of those guys were scrubs

his toughest test so far has been franklin

[Barack Lesnar]

I think Rashad is a better style matchup against him than Rampage because he's got good hand speed.

Either way, I think Machida has the perfect balance of speed AND power that neither Rampage or Rashad possesses.

Tito is a strong LHW and Machida threw him around.

Soakajew while being an overrated turd is a very strong LHW and Machida threw him around.

I don't think Rampage's physicality would be enough to win the fight. Lyoto would dance around, striking from the outside, chopping him down with kicks and trips.

tito hasn't been relevant in like 5 years, soakajew is a can

[Barack Lesnar]

Uhh, Rashad doesn't exactly engage in the same way that all of Machida's previous opponents have done. In the case of both fighters deciding to pull an Uno/Edwards, the decision would most likely go to Rashad. As unfair as that is, it's the case. Furthermore, Rashad Evans and Greg Jackson's Camp as a whole have proven to be very game-plan dedicated. An equally foreseeable outcome to what you have proposed is one in which Rashad simply does his usual lateral movement, using Machida's tendency to back up then pressure him against the cage where Rashad will inevitably get a takedown. And for those of you saying Machida has really good takedown defense, name someone who has been on the same level as Rashad Evans in terms of takedowns that has been nullified by Machida. The correct answer is no one.

Also, it's rather fool-hardy to so brazenly proclaim that Rashad is incapable of taking him down, much less closing the gap.
QFMFT

[JamesArk]

I'll also take any bet you can make against Machida sorrid.

He's gonna be a long reigning champ.

[Barack Lesnar]

Rashad is one of the WORST champions in recent UFC history.

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[Barack Lesnar]

A shit Tito still beat Rashad, the guy you're arguing for. In fact, he did it in the time frame you made. Believe me, I was there.

:kopfschuettel:

[gumby]

when did this turn into sherdog?

[Barack Lesnar]

dude, Cantwell lost to Brian Stann the first time. I'm going with Cane in that one.

meh

[Barack Lesnar]

I'll also take any bet you can make against Machida sorrid.

He's gonna be a long reigning champ.

i'll take rampage and rashad over machida

[JamesArk]

i'll take rampage and rashad over machida

*eagerly awaits*

[Scorpipede]

meh

Av bet? somewhere anyway?

[Barack Lesnar]

Av bet? somewhere anyway?

i'm not confident in either fighter

[fanattic]

i present exhibit A


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[Scorpipede]

i'm not confident in either fighter

um....pooooooooooooC

[fanattic]

the dragon punch is to be feared

[stulecanem]

tito hasn't been relevant in like 5 years, soakajew is a can

The post was about powerful LHW's and Tito and Soakajew, while being turds, are both powerful.