GSP = Cheater?

[super hot]

GSP is going to get pwnt by Alves. I'm sure Jackson will thing of other ways to cheat again.

[___]

Wait, you owe me your av for a month or two for Machida's fight! :rofl:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Well GSP was the much superior fighter, I would say you could consider the fight unfair for BJ but the cheating part doesn't really apply

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Wait, you owe me your av for a month or two for Machida's fight! :rofl:

no I dont I never took you up on the bet here

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Tell tsar to change my av at fwi for you, I think personal patrick is still active

[ArtardFiesta]

you people are fucking pathetic, blah blah blah vasoline, blah blah blah he cheated, blah blah blah

[ArtardFiesta]

get over it, bj isnt as good as gsp, bj talked mad shit and got what he deserved

[super hot]

BJ vs GSP III. make it happen dana.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

you people are fucking pathetic, blah blah blah vasoline, blah blah blah he cheated, blah blah blah

for the most part wig and mante are just trolling. When you aren't very good at it like them it's easy to recognize.

[Tsar]

Tell tsar to change my av at fwi for you, I think personal patrick is still active

i have to be asked. i don't always do what i'm told.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

BJ vs GSP III. make it happen dana.

GSP tko/ko round 3

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

i have to be asked. i don't always do what i'm told.

lol

[___]

no I dont I never took you up on the bet here

I asked if you would transfer it and you said, 'of course'.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

go find the post where I said that I dont remember

[___]

I'll peak around for a second, but you aren't worth much time.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

to you I seem to be

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

just av bet me for ufn for about 2 weeks or so Im sure we dont have the exact same picks for that. I dont even remember av betting anyone for the last card.

[JamesArk]

If it was an accident why did Penn's corner warn them to watch out for it since he's been suspected in the past?

Because B.J.'s a paranoid faggot that can't cope with losing?

[___]

This isn't from here, but was easy to find and is big time lulz.

http://i43.tinypic.com/rv9d1d.jpg

[___]

Bah. It took both monitors. One of my settings is fucked up.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I just wanted to see Machida lose, I didnt really give thiago all that much of a chance all he does is go forward aggressively

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I was legitimately surprised Machida KO'd him like he did though, I'd like to see him fight Rashad Evans now even though I dont like the idea of him possibly being a champion

[___]

I was legitimately surprised Machida KO'd him like he did though

And I called it by KO/TKO. Now who was right -- yours truly.

[super hot]

This isn't from here, but was easy to find and is big time lulz.

http://i43.tinypic.com/rv9d1d.jpg

dual monitors FTW

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

And I called it by KO/TKO. Now who was right -- yours truly.

mine is better because it was the main event

[sher-bant]

mine is better because it was the main event

http://www.bangedup.com/archives/bu_posts/mainlosertop1c0e.jpg

[maxthesilent]

btw said ritual is nothing more than a take on classic posture setting to allow for proper breathing in between rounds

[funktard]

btw said ritual is nothing more than a take on classic posture setting to allow for proper breathing in between rounds

+ Vaseline

[Holic]

I just wanted to see Machida lose, I didnt really give thiago all that much of a chance all he does is go forward aggressively

Actually that's what he DOESN'T do. He swore up and down that he was going to pursue Machida relentlessly, but then when the time came he came out and stood there, waiting for Machida to hit him first. He didn't hustle at all. Terrible.

[maxthesilent]

+ Vaseline


yeah obviously they were fearful of BJ using his high guard even though the best he'd be able to accomplish would be sinking in an omaplata and maybe getting a sweep.

the penn mystique is hilarious to me.

[Scorpipede]

Actually that's what he DOESN'T do. He swore up and down that he was going to pursue Machida relentlessly, but then when the time came he came out and stood there, waiting for Machida to hit him first. He didn't hustle at all. Terrible.

he looked like the overrated Wand clone that he is to be honest, I enjoy brawls but he's nowhere near the cream of the crop.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

No he isn't

[JamesArk]

yeah obviously they were fearful of BJ using his high guard even though the best he'd be able to accomplish would be sinking in an omaplata and maybe getting a sweep.

the penn mystique is hilarious to me.

Or the fact that B.J.'s magical fucking guard was useless back when GSP was a fucking purple belt.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

BJ Penn and his camp and his fans just need to have some fucking dignity and accept the fact he lost. It wasn't even close. They are clinging to this like its their only hope and it's just pathetic.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Greg Jackson also stated GSP would gladly welcome another rematch to silence any controversy about his victory. I hope it happens, I'd be glad to watch GSP beat the shit out of BJ again.

[JamesArk]

Greg Jackson also stated GSP would gladly welcome another rematch to silence any controversy about his victory. I hope it happens, I'd be glad to watch GSP beat the shit out of BJ again.

:cheers:

[Barack Lesnar]

This isn't from here, but was easy to find and is big time lulz.

http://i43.tinypic.com/rv9d1d.jpg

architect?

[Barack Lesnar]

GSP is going to get pwnt by Alves. I'm sure Jackson will thing of other ways to cheat again.

gsp by submission

[Scorpipede]

I think Alves may give him trouble, I'm leaning towards Alves now.

[Barack Lesnar]

i'm leaning towards gsp after he completely destroyed bj, if (when) gsp gets him on the ground, it'll be over

[Scorpipede]

Alves scrambles well, will have the striking advantage and is as strong as if not stronger than GSP. Grappling goes to GSP of course, I'm not fully decided yet.

[Octavian]

gsp is a cheating faggot.

hear hear

[Mickey]

BJ Penn and his camp and his fans just need to have some fucking dignity and accept the fact he lost. It wasn't even close. They are clinging to this like its their only hope and it's just pathetic.


They arent clinging to hope, they are trying to discredit an athlete that completely and utterly dominated their boy.

[Holic]

Greg Jackson also stated GSP would gladly welcome another rematch to silence any controversy about his victory. I hope it happens, I'd be glad to watch GSP beat the shit out of BJ again.

Jackson: And let me tell you, Georges would LOVE another crack at dominating Penn!

GSP: Greg, shut the fuck up!

Jackson: Don't worry Georges, you're the most dominant champ ever! I'll train you to be a monster, and-

GSP: But we can't use the grease!

Jackson: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Scorpipede]

Jackson: And let me tell you, Georges would LOVE another crack at dominating Penn!

GSP: Greg, shut the fuck up!

Jackson: Don't worry Georges, you're the most dominant champ ever! I'll train you to be a monster, and-

GSP: But we can't use the grease!

Jackson: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

0/10

[Gay]

Jason Miller just posted a blog in which he accused GSP of greasing (he doesn't say his name, just clearly alludes to him)

[Scorpipede]

it's here somewhere. Reading it makes it sound like he's calling BJ a complainer not saying GSP cheated, I think he called it "bending" the rules.

[Gay]

it's here somewhere. Reading it makes it sound like he's calling BJ a complainer not saying GSP cheated, I think he called it "bending" the rules.

Yeah thats a good point, but he's still saying GSP greased. Personally, I don't think BJ would have pulled off a miracle submission anyways, so it's whatever for me.

[Tsar]

Jason Miller just posted a blog in which he accused GSP of greasing (he doesn't say his name, just clearly alludes to him)

he fought GSP before he went to jacksons. it's interesting--are the accusations leveled at GSP particularly, or Jackson's generally (I've fighters complain about Diaz, Marquardt, and Evans).

[JamesArk]

Jackson: And let me tell you, Georges would LOVE another crack at dominating Penn!

GSP: Greg, shut the fuck up!

Jackson: Don't worry Georges, you're the most dominant champ ever! I'll train you to be a monster, and-

GSP: But we can't use the grease!

Jackson: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

To the DEATH, to the DEATH GEORGES. I'm going out there to the DEATH unless your back is minutely greased in which case I'll quit early and complain.

[godzillad]

People talking about Alves "takedown defense" are kidding themselves. He spent the first rounds of the Karo and Hughes fights on his back and lost them.

Don't give me any of that "Kos couldn't take him down" shit either, Kos was undertrained for that fight and everyone knows it.

[JamesArk]

People talking about Alves "takedown defense" are kidding themselves. He spent the first rounds of the Karo and Hughes fights on his back and lost them.

Don't give me any of that "Kos couldn't take him down" shit either, Kos was undertrained for that fight and everyone knows it.

lol he did more damage in 10 seconds on top than Hughes did in like 3 minutes

I love GSP, but Alves is going to be a lot tougher a test than B.J.

[Tsar]

People talking about Alves "takedown defense" are kidding themselves. He spent the first rounds of the Karo and Hughes fights on his back and lost them.

Don't give me any of that "Kos couldn't take him down" shit either, Kos was undertrained for that fight and everyone knows it.

i'm not so sure. NCAA wrestling creds are NCAA wrestling creds. how rusty could he have been?

[Gay]

he fought GSP before he went to jacksons. it's interesting--are the accusations leveled at GSP particularly, or Jackson's generally (I've fighters complain about Diaz, Marquardt, and Evans).

They seem to be at GSP specifically.

[Barack Lesnar]

To the DEATH, to the DEATH GEORGES. I'm going out there to the DEATH unless your back is minutely greased in which case I'll quit early and complain.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Barack Lesnar]

People talking about Alves "takedown defense" are kidding themselves. He spent the first rounds of the Karo and Hughes fights on his back and lost them.

Don't give me any of that "Kos couldn't take him down" shit either, Kos was undertrained for that fight and everyone knows it.

yeah, not to mention fitch disposed of him pretty easily once put on his back

[Scorpipede]

They seem to be at GSP specifically.

I'm not sure why either, it's easy for me to accept that GSP wasn't aware of what happened. Kind of easy for me to get that it was unintentional also and that the idea of cheating never actually entered anyone's mind.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I think you're looking too much into it scorp. It's just a butthurt loser and the people surrounding him trying to complain after the fact.

[Scorpipede]

maybe it is, I DO NOT think the little vaseline made the whole difference in the fight but I do think that it should never happen. Too bad this happened really.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Nah it's too bad BJ and his camp/fans can't accept the fact he lost

[Gay]

i'm not so sure. NCAA wrestling creds are NCAA wrestling creds. how rusty could he have been?

This is true. I think that GSPs striking will really open up his takedowns though. Kos' stand up is still subpar in my opinion.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

turning Yoshida into a verb was pretty ballin

[___]

he fought GSP before he went to jacksons. it's interesting--are the accusations leveled at GSP particularly, or Jackson's generally (I've fighters complain about Diaz, Marquardt, and Evans).

Strictly GSP at this point. But according to Dana, Greg may never be let in the cage again.

[Gay]

Strictly GSP at this point. But according to Dana, Greg may never be let in the cage again.

That seems harsh to me, but if the allegations are all true, I can't really argue with it.

[JamesArk]

I thought it was Phil Nurse that fucked up?

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I thought it was Phil Nurse that fucked up?
Yeah that's what I read too

[Gay]

I thought it was Phil Nurse that fucked up?

They're saying both of them might have. Phil Nurse seems to be more definite of the two.

[Scorpipede]

the article even said something like "I believed to be Greg Jackson" so maybe the guy got it wrong.

[___]

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[___]

I thought it was Phil Nurse that fucked up?

"At the end of the second round I watched, and then another cornerman who I believe was Greg Jackson, he put the Vaseline on Georges' face, and then he put his hand on his back to do the breathing thing they always do," Kizer said. "As soon as I saw that, it looked like there was still some Vaseline on his hand."

"I came out of the octagon and explained to the commissioner what I saw," Kizer said. "I also motioned toward (UFC President) Dana (White) and (UFC co-owner) Lorenzo (Fertitta) so they'd know what I was doing in there. After the fight, actually both Mr. White and Mr. Fertitta both commented on how they're not sure whether those guys need to corner any other UFC (events) ever again. I leave that to them from a company standpoint. We'll deal with it from a commission standpoint."

From the director of the athletic commissions mouth.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

what does that av prove? That GSP has strong posturing ability?

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

You seriously think those gifs make a case for something? lol just lol

[___]

Just posting them for the record.

[Scorpipede]

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/bhz/mma/penn_vs_gsp/slip3.gif

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in all but one of these GSP is posturing.

[___]

This one is the lulz.

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/bhz/mma/penn_vs_gsp/greaser.gif

[Scorpipede]

This one is the lulz.

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/bhz/mma/penn_vs_gsp/greaser.gif

why?

[___]

The trainers right hand?

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

the vaseline has a cap on?

[___]

I said it was funny not that it proves anything.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Yeah they use vaseline to prevent cuts on the face I dont know whats lol about it though

[Scorpipede]

The trainers right hand?

wow, at first I thought it was a bandage or rag. That is kind of funny.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I think BJ getting outstruck standing and on the ground en route to a 4th round tko corner stoppage is lol but a trainer holding a jar of vaseline with a lid on and not much else happening not so much

[Scorpipede]

I think BJ getting outstruck standing and on the ground en route to a 4th round tko corner stoppage is lol but a trainer holding a jar of vaseline with a lid on and not much else happening not so much

I thought that was more impressive and satisfying.

[JamesArk]

He was wiping off the excess around the rim. That's their secret.

Fucking dirty bastards.

[Scorpipede]

He was wiping off the excess around the rim. That's their secret.

Fucking dirty bastards.

I do that when I poop...sometimes.

[kayfuNk]

im debating whether or not to fap to GSP's ridiculous body. it's not human.

[Scorpipede]

im debating whether or not to fap to GSP's ridiculous body. it's not human.

why fight it? do what comes naturally.

[kayfuNk]

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rofl yea, 7 minutes into an intense fight, no one would be sweating so much that their back would be soaking wet with sweat. Gotta be the vaseline.

[Scorpipede]

rofl yea, 7 minutes into an intense fight, no one would be sweating so much that their back would be soaking wet with sweat. Gotta be the vaseline.

sarcasm?

[Gay]

In the 2nd round, I'm not sure if they were sweaty enough to make everything slip that easy, or if something greezy is afoot.

[Scorpipede]

they get watered down in between rounds too

GSP sweats as soon as he gets in the cage

[Elk Penis]

In the 2nd round, I'm not sure if they were sweaty enough to make everything slip that easy, or if something greezy is afoot.

GSP is posturing. Look how he's sort of doing the worm with his head and shoulders.

[Gay]

they get watered down in between rounds too

GSP sweats as soon as he gets in the cage

This is very true. Honestly, I don't really think that it matters, or even really happened, the only thing making me 2nd guess are all the other people who have fought GSP claiming the same thing. I'll wait for the NSAC to make the final call.

[Scorpipede]

This is very true. Honestly, I don't really think that it matters, or even really happened, the only thing making me 2nd guess are all the other people who have fought GSP claiming the same thing. I'll wait for the NSAC to make the final call.

I think I will too. At first I thought it was just whining but now there's some evidence and it deserves consideration.

[Gay]

I think I will too. At first I thought it was just whining but now there's some evidence and it deserves consideration.

The good thing is I really like both fighters, so I don't really have any sort of bias in the matter. I think it'll all blow over in the end though, and Greg Jackson will still be allowed to corner his fighters.

[Barack Lesnar]

This one is the lulz.

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/bhz/mma/penn_vs_gsp/greaser.gif

HAAHAHAHAH, that shit is funny

[Scorpipede]

The good thing is I really like both fighters, so I don't really have any sort of bias in the matter. I think it'll all blow over in the end though, and Greg Jackson will still be allowed to corner his fighters.

be a shame if he wasn't, it CAN be easily explained as a mental error by a cornerman. All these other complaints that came out of the woodwork lose their credibility simply because they waited for this to happen before they said anything.

[Barack Lesnar]

yeah, matt serra and jason miller aren't exactly the most trustworthy guys

i wanna hear what hughes, fitch and koscheck have to say

[Gay]

be a shame if he wasn't, it CAN be easily explained as a mental error by a cornerman. All these other complaints that came out of the woodwork lose their credibility simply because they waited for this to happen before they said anything.

That's what I was thinking. Why would nobody else step up sooner?

[Scorpipede]

yeah, matt serra and jason miller aren't exactly the most trustworthy guys

i wanna hear what hughes, fitch and koscheck have to say

I know Hughes would have said something when it happened if it happened.

[JamesArk]

yeah, matt serra and jason miller aren't exactly the most trustworthy guys

i wanna hear what hughes, fitch and koscheck have to say

3 jiu-jitsu guys who's guards he demolished

Could it be that GSP has great posture + hips + guard passing?

Nahhh.

[Barack Lesnar]

I know Hughes would have said something when it happened if it happened.

exactly

[Scorpipede]

3 jiu-jitsu guys who's guards he demolished

Could it be that GSP has great posture + hips + guard passing?

Nahhh.

that's too easy

[Decommissioner]

This is getting rediculous.

[___]

yeah, matt serra and jason miller aren't exactly the most trustworthy guys

i wanna hear what hughes, fitch and koscheck have to say

Notice that it was the 3 jits guys who said it. Possibly, Kos, Fitch, and Hughes are lemons from their back and there would be no reason to grease, or they never even tried a high guard, really.

The 3 guys saying it are really the only 3 it would have a major affect on.

[Demon Cobras]

they get watered down in between rounds too

GSP sweats as soon as he gets in the cage

GSP doesn't get watered down. Water beads off of vaseline guy.

[Saska]

Notice that it was the 3 jits guys who said it. Possibly, Kos, Fitch, and Hughes are lemons from their back and there would be no reason to grease, or they never even tried a high guard, really.

The 3 guys saying it are really the only 3 it would have a major affect on.

Yes but why would they wait until now to say anything? It's useless now, if it were a factor in the fights they would have protested right then and there, not a year or two later.

[___]

Yes but why would they wait until now to say anything? It's useless now, if it were a factor in the fights they would have protested right then and there, not a year or two later.

Just like Mayhem said, it would have done him no good and people would just think he's a whiner. He didn't say anything because he feared ridicule. Now that someone has publicly come out and said it, others aren't scared because they won't take any heat. If Jason did it directly after he would have been pissed on. Since he said it now, his piece has been said and he's not getting any heat.

[Demon Cobras]

Just like Mayhem said, it would have done him no good and people would just think he's a whiner. He didn't say anything because he feared ridicule. Now that someone has publicly come out and said it, others aren't scared because they won't take any heat. If Jason did it directly after he would have been pissed on. Since he said it now, his piece has been said and he's not getting any heat.

Trewf. Miller said his peace in a respectful way, as has BJ.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

miller is a can and no one gives a fuck what he thinks or says

[Maniac]

I never knew smearing vaseline on your back would cause your fist to continually bash someone's face in.

I'm going to try that sometime.

[Maniac]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ceri1s.jpg

[Saska]

Just like Mayhem said, it would have done him no good and people would just think he's a whiner. He didn't say anything because he feared ridicule. Now that someone has publicly come out and said it, others aren't scared because they won't take any heat. If Jason did it directly after he would have been pissed on. Since he said it now, his piece has been said and he's not getting any heat.

I think those are bullshit excuses. If I'm in a pro fight and I'm losing because of something like this I'm going to scream and yell right there and then. Making accusations after the fact is pointless, why would they allow it to cost them a fight at the time?

[Wilma Fingerdo]

I haven't read the thread, but way back when Melvin Guillard fought Roger Huerta......Guillard beat his ass but his corner rubbed fish oil on him and Huerta got the fight ruled a NC

[dolly]

stinky.

[Barack Lesnar]

Notice that it was the 3 jits guys who said it. Possibly, Kos, Fitch, and Hughes are lemons from their back and there would be no reason to grease, or they never even tried a high guard, really.

The 3 guys saying it are really the only 3 it would have a major affect on.

or....maybe the 3 guys who said it are completely untrustworthy pieces of shit with no class

[Barack Lesnar]

Just like Mayhem said, it would have done him no good and people would just think he's a whiner. He didn't say anything because he feared ridicule. Now that someone has publicly come out and said it, others aren't scared because they won't take any heat. If Jason did it directly after he would have been pissed on. Since he said it now, his piece has been said and he's not getting any heat.

lol, the most retarded thing i ever heard

[Holic]

or....maybe the 3 guys who said it are completely untrustworthy pieces of shit with no class

Hughes just jumped in too.

Now, on to what everybody is talking about, the greasing. I’m not the only one who has said that GSP felt greasy during a fight. I know Matt Serra has mentioned it and, even in their first fight, I think BJ said something. I’m not saying GSP did something wrong and I’m not saying that it would have changed any outcomes of any fights; but what I am saying is, for my last two fights against Georges, he felt greasy.

[ArtardFiesta]

This is bullshit, all these fags that get there asses beat are starting to all say GSP was greasing. Just cause they all suck and couldnt control his ass lets start saying hes a cheater

[InternetHero]

Based on probability, what are the chances that so many respected names in MMA are lying about GSP's allegations?

I don't know, but when Mayhem, Hughes, Sherk, and others are backing up BJ Penn it should be cause for concern.

Maybe they are wrong, but why would we believe they would all maliciously lie? They have as much to gain or lose as GSP in their reputations and legacy so I think it adds some credence to the allegations GSP was greased up.

[Barack Lesnar]

shut up, faggot

[ArtardFiesta]

Ever since BJ started crying about this greasing thing it just gives these guys reasons to come out and say something, they have problems controlling him while hes in their guard so now they are all obviously gonna come forward and say the same thing. I couldnt control him, he must of been greasing.

The guy puts on one of the best performances of his career, dominating the #4 p4p fighter and that little faggot ass dough boy decides to make some accusations of him cheating because one of the guys in his corner made a mistake and patted him on the back while having a little vasoline on his hands.

[Barack Lesnar]

http://ninjashoes.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1281976#post1281976

[Krazypoison]

here's a gif of what has been influenced by the use of vaseline

http://i40.tinypic.com/28i3ps7.gif

[___]

Ever since BJ started crying about this greasing thing it just gives these guys reasons to come out and say something, they have problems controlling him while hes in their guard so now they are all obviously gonna come forward and say the same thing. I couldnt control him, he must of been greasing.

The guy puts on one of the best performances of his career, dominating the #4 p4p fighter and that little faggot ass dough boy decides to make some accusations of him cheating because one of the guys in his corner made a mistake and patted him on the back while having a little vasoline on his hands.

Those 'accusations' were confirmed by Dana White, Chuck Liddell, and the director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission - none of which fought him, all of which have something to lose and nothing to gain from it. Especially Dana.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Those 'accusations' were confirmed by Dana White, Chuck Liddell, and the director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission - none of which fought him, all of which have something to lose and nothing to gain from it. Especially Dana.

:sadpeanut:

[ArtardFiesta]

Those 'accusations' were confirmed by Dana White, Chuck Liddell, and the director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission - none of which fought him, all of which have something to lose and nothing to gain from it. Especially Dana.

blah blah blah blah, silence peasant

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

wig is probably the most butthurt bj penn apologist of them all. He had tears streaming saturday, you can tell.

[___]

And GSP fans have wool over their eyes.

Artard has to be the worst poster here. Well, one of them. Never anything to say, just "blah blah blah."

[ArtardFiesta]

And GSP fans have wool over their eyes.

Artard has to be the worst poster here. Well, one of them. Never anything to say, just "blah blah blah."

lol im proud of being one of the worst posters

honestly WTF is there to say, your just gonna continue with the he cheated, he greased bullshit and what am i going to continue saying, it didnt make much of a difference if he greased or not, bj still got worked and would get worked if they fought again

[ArtardFiesta]

This thread is already 19 pages of the same bullshit

edit: 20

:flush:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

And GSP fans have wool over their eyes.

Artard has to be the worst poster here. Well, one of them. Never anything to say, just "blah blah blah."

If you had substantial proof of excessive greasing and not just an argument that amounts to GSP cheated while using other people as a source (even though they themselves have hardly elaborated on the subject as it stands now) maybe I'd pay attention wig. If you had a valid argument rather than just looking like a petty and upset troll I'd have no problem discussing it.

As it is now, it was a mild mistake by a cornerman that was immediately taken care of. It was a breathing exercise, he had an inconsequential amount of vaseline on his hands. I don't give a shit about his past opponents either, if they had a problem they should have complained about it then and there. BJ Penn and his fans just refuse to lose with dignity.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

This thread is already 19 pages of the same bullshit

edit: 20

:flush:

Yeah, wig saying "he cheated he cheated" like an upset 5 year old queer while everyone else calls him a stupid upset queer. GSP dominated Penn, it was glorious. All the mma news outlets are basically saying BJ needs to get the fuck over it and stop whining, and that's pretty fucking funny.

[___]

If you had substantial proof of excessive greasing and not just an argument that amounts to GSP cheated while using other people as a source (even though they themselves have hardly elaborated on the subject as it stands now) maybe I'd pay attention wig. If you had a valid argument rather than just looking like a petty and upset troll I'd have no problem discussing it.

As it is now, it was a mild mistake by a cornerman that was immediately taken care of. It was a breathing exercise, he had an inconsequential amount of vaseline on his hands. I don't give a shit about his past opponents either, if they had a problem they should have complained about it then and there. BJ Penn and his fans just refuse to lose with dignity.

Uh oh, WR's typing paragraphs nobody cares about again.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Uh oh, WR's typing paragraphs nobody cares about again.

:sadpeanut:

[___]

:sleepysmiley:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

:sleepysmiley:

:sadpeanut:

[SatNav]

If they did cheat then it should have consequences.

you can't blow this whole thing away like it's nothing just because you hate BJ, and think he is a whiny bitch.


cheating is cheating.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

he didnt cheat, get over it you butthurt faggot

[___]

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/bhz/mma/penn_vs_gsp/greaser.gif

"fairly squarely"

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://free-zg.t-com.hr/bhz/mma/penn_vs_gsp/greaser.gif

"fairly squarely"

:sadpeanut:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i39.tinypic.com/24dowef.jpg

[Barack Lesnar]

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[ArtardFiesta]

lol good video

[Barack Lesnar]

http://i43.tinypic.com/9a4olc.gif

[SatNav]

he didnt cheat, get over it you butthurt faggot

you are so childish it's not even funny.

[SatNav]

Newsflash!

If GSP and his cornermen used vaseline in the fight, it's cheating.

[ArtardFiesta]

http://i40.tinypic.com/2dt6r93.jpg

[ArtardFiesta]

please

http://i40.tinypic.com/2dt6r93.jpg

[ArtardFiesta]

this is getting old

http://i40.tinypic.com/2dt6r93.jpg

[ArtardFiesta]

same shit over and over

http://i40.tinypic.com/2dt6r93.jpg

[ArtardFiesta]

move on, bj sucks

http://i40.tinypic.com/2dt6r93.jpg

[___]

same shit over and over

Yeah, your posting is redundant, we know.

[ArtardFiesta]

Yeah, your posting is redundant, we know.

the arguments that keep coming out of you guys is redundant so does it really matter?

[___]

Same arguments? You mean different articles and/or fighters saying that he cheated against them too?

All of which you respond to with the old classic "nuh-uh."

[ArtardFiesta]

Different articles? A couple of fighters that got their asses beat by him and couldnt control him while he was in their guard trying to make a excuse for the loss.

Where is some footage from these other fights showing the "grease" being applied, please find some.

Because until there is some evidence you can provide please quit the trolling

[ArtardFiesta]

There is a camera on the fighter in the corner every time they go and sit down, if there is some footage from the latest fight where he supposedly greased there should be footage from the others, go on, find it.

please do, until you can please STFU

[___]

Different articles? A couple of fighters that got their asses beat by him and couldnt control him while he was in their guard trying to make a excuse for the loss.

Where is some footage from these other fights showing the "grease" being applied, please find some.

Because until there is some evidence you can provide please quit the trolling

http://i40.tinypic.com/2cz2g6q.gif

^^^cheater

[SatNav]

http://i40.tinypic.com/2cz2g6q.gif

^^^cheater

wax on, wax off.

[Barack Lesnar]

There is a camera on the fighter in the corner every time they go and sit down, if there is some footage from the latest fight where he supposedly greased there should be footage from the others, go on, find it.

please do, until you can please STFU
Here is the footage of GSPs corner during rounds between his matchups with FItch, Koscheck and Serra.

Clearly his cornerman is doing the backrub in these fights as well, and he does use vaseline as shown in the koscheck fight (which he is allowed to do), but he doesnt do the backrub in that fight.

So i think this was just a harmless mistake.
We have clear proof that GSPs cornermen have been doing this backrub in other fights.

So give GSP the respect he deserves for the true classy champion he is,
we are lucky to have such a class act like GSP representing our sport,
just think if we had someone like Mayweather as our champ!

GSP is a class act, and i dont think he would ever resort to cheating, it was just a honest mistake.

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[SatNav]

Here is the footage of GSPs corner during rounds between his matchups with FItch, Koscheck and Serra.

Clearly his cornerman is doing the backrub in these fights as well, and he does use vaseline as shown in the koscheck fight (which he is allowed to do), but he doesnt do the backrub in that fight.

So i think this was just a harmless mistake.
We have clear proof that GSPs cornermen have been doing this backrub in other fights.

So give GSP the respect he deserves for the true classy champion he is,
we are lucky to have such a class act like GSP representing our sport,
just think if we had someone like Mayweather as our champ!

GSP is a class act, and i dont think he would ever resort to cheating, it was just a honest mistake.

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a serious awnser from solid? wow... and reps

I agree on this post.


It just seems strange that anyone in their right mind would use vaseline in a fight that has cameras all over the place and people checking the fighters.

I don't think GSP and his teammates are that dumb.

[Demon Cobras]

Look at the way water beads off his shoulders... That video is clear evidence that the "rubbing" is actually greasing.

[SatNav]

the sad thing about this (if untrue) is that it takes alot away from GSP's victory

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

it takes away nothing from his victory because he didnt cheat

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

some butthurt bj penn apologists arent going to convince people otherwise

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i40.tinypic.com/25k0oy1.jpg

[Barack Lesnar]

a serious awnser from solid? wow... and reps

I agree on this post.


It just seems strange that anyone in their right mind would use vaseline in a fight that has cameras all over the place and people checking the fighters.

I don't think GSP and his teammates are that dumb.

nah, i just copied and pasted from the guy who posted that vid

[Mickey]

Nice post Solid. The haters will always be there though.

[SatNav]

it takes away nothing from his victory because he didnt cheat

how do you know for shure?

Do you train with GSP? are you his friend? where you in his corner? did you fight him? do you have inside information? did his mom tell you?


I'm glad we have someone like you who obviously knows all the facts.

[SatNav]

nah, i just copied and pasted from the guy who posted that vid

:neutral:


I don't belive GSP did it, I just don't think anyone can be that dumb.



but you never know

[SatNav]

How old are you WR?

[SatNav]

why do you keep posting that? I like BJ and GSP just as much.

[HOODS]

remember when wr was all about wand for like 2 weeks until he lost? Same thing with arlovski? He finally latched onto a fighter who actually "won" a fight, lets not take this away from him. He finally found a bandwagon he can stay on for a while, gsp doesn't fight alves for a while that means wr can ride this one for at least a couple months.

[SatNav]

remember when wr was all about wand for like 2 weeks until he lost? Same thing with arlovski? He finally latched onto a fighter who actually "won" a fight, lets not take this away from him. He finally found a bandwagon he can stay on for a while, gsp doesn't fight alves for a while that means wr can ride this one for at least a couple months.

lol, yeah you are right.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

remember when wr was all about wand for like 2 weeks until he lost? Same thing with arlovski? He finally latched onto a fighter who actually "won" a fight, lets not take this away from him. He finally found a bandwagon he can stay on for a while, gsp doesn't fight alves for a while that means wr can ride this one for at least a couple months.

ih edited this post so I'll just change it back and let him re-edit it later

[InternetHero]

Oh exploitable.

http://www.tribaltemporarytattoos.com/simpsons/willy.jpg

[Demon Cobras]

how do you know for shure?

Do you train with GSP? are you his friend? where you in his corner? did you fight him? do you have inside information? did his mom tell you?


I'm glad we have someone like you who obviously knows all the facts.

:cheers: It's pretty obvious he cheated.

[Jimbo]

I'm not butthurt over Penn losing but this one made me LOL hard:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2v13ndv.gif

[Decommissioner]

remember when wr was all about wand for like 2 weeks until he lost? Same thing with arlovski? He finally latched onto a fighter who actually "won" a fight, lets not take this away from him. He finally found a bandwagon he can stay on for a while, gsp doesn't fight alves for a while that means wr can ride this one for at least a couple months.

LMAO so true

[___]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/13927/penn-accepts-st-pierres-challenge-for-third-meeting.mma

[Barack Lesnar]

he's gonna get his shit pushed in again

[Christina Hendtits]

I'm not butthurt over Penn losing but this one made me LOL hard:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2v13ndv.gif

LOL that is pretty funny.

[___]

he's gonna get his shit pushed in again

GSP/Penn 2 and 3 will be like Aoki/JZ 1 and 2.

[SatNav]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/13927/penn-accepts-st-pierres-challenge-for-third-meeting.mma

grease or no grease, GSP is going to beat BJ into a living death.

[___]

I doubt the fight happens. Lucky for the cheater.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Good I get to see GSP beat the shit out of BJ again

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I doubt the fight happens. Lucky for the cheater.

you're still butthurt

[___]

GSP won't fight him again.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

GSP already told him he would you shitty troll

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Whether or not it actually happens is up for debate, I doubt Dana or Joe Silva have a reason to make a match where BJ loses terribly again.

[___]

GSP already told him he would you shitty troll

Yeah, to save face.

He knows he has nothing to gain and now his biggest advantage will be gone.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Yeah, to save face.

He knows he has nothing to gain and now his biggest advantage will be gone.

:sadpeanut:

[___]

Maybe I should take the WR approach and jump off of bandwagons if the fight doesn't go perfect.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Maybe I should take the WR approach and jump off of bandwagons if the fight doesn't go perfect.

Please elaborate

[___]

I don't have to. Everyone, including you, knows what I'm talking about.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I don't that's why I asked you to elaborate, but it's clear you have nothing

[SatNav]

I don't have to. Everyone, including you, knows what I'm talking about.

Yepp.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Tell me about it then satnaz

[SatNav]

Tell me about it then satnaz

No, I'm eating.

In short: You find a fighter that you like and is doing good, and you sport that fighter way too much with your childish comments.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Hardly, I like the fighter I dont just find one and say hey I'll cheer for this guy for awhile. Changing my av to a different fighter after an event is over doesn't mean I dislike that fighter.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I like both wand and arlovski just because they lost doesn't mean I'm going to dislike them all of a sudden

[SatNav]

Hardly, I like the fighter I dont just find one and say hey I'll cheer for this guy for awhile. Changing my av to a different fighter after an event is over doesn't mean I dislike that fighter.

I don't care.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

You obviously do or you wouldn't have brought it up

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

I'm happy to prove you wrong though, which I just did

[SatNav]

WR = Solid

[SatNav]

I'm happy to prove you wrong though, which I just did

bla bla bla

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

http://i44.tinypic.com/5b5zj7.gif

[Barack Lesnar]

GSP won't fight him again.

it was gsp who challenged him in the first place, faggot

[Barack Lesnar]

WR = Solid

:cry:

[___]

it was gsp who challenged him in the first place, faggot

And talk is cheap.

[Barack Lesnar]

bla bla bla

:bawl:

[___]

He also said, 'I never cheated in my life.'

[Barack Lesnar]

And talk is cheap.

lol, tell that to mr. "to the death" :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Barack Lesnar]

to the DEATH, georges. we're gonna go to the DEATH

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

talk is cheap? BJ must cost a buck ninety-five cause that's all that fucker does

[___]

He didn't quit, his brother did.

[Barack Lesnar]

He didn't quit, his brother did.

:neutral:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

talk talk talk *gets ass beat* talk talk talk

[Barack Lesnar]

lol, against hughes, wahhhhhhhhhhh he broke his rib, against gsp, wahhhhhhhhhhhh his brother quit

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

:neutral:

BJ quit, his brother just told the doctor for him. You could see it in his eyes, total and complete defeat.

[___]

*acts respectful, applies grease*

At least BJ isn't a fake French Canadian faggot.

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

*acts respectful, applies grease*

At least BJ isn't a fake French Canadian faggot.
:sadpeanut:

[Barack Lesnar]

*acts respectful, applies grease*

At least BJ isn't a fake French Canadian faggot.

:bawl:

[___]

Why not just post from one account?

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

Why not just post from one account?

http://i39.tinypic.com/14wdu01.jpg

[Barack Lesnar]

Why not just post from one account?

:wigbad:

[SatNav]

:wigbad:

:neutral:

[Mickey]

He didn't quit, his brother did.



BJ had EVERY chance to tell his brother NOT to stop the fight. It is up to the fighter ultimately, if the doctor doesnt stop it, and he never said a word. He quit. End of story.

[SatNav]

He didn't quit, his brother did.

I'm a BJ fan, but you could clearly see that he gave up early in the fight.

[Barack Lesnar]

yeah, i bet he did whisper to his corner to throw in the towel when he had his back to the cameras

[Barack Lesnar]

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[Mickey]

I'm a BJ fan, but you could clearly see that he gave up early in the fight.



Nuh uh. The grease made it impossible to work off of his back like he had planned. He was planning on subbing the best wrestler in MMA, who is also a BB in Jiu Jitsu, from a place where he has never subbed anyone before during an MMA match. I knew that BJ was good, I just didnt think that he was arrogant enough to go for such a tough gameplan. My mistake.

[monodc]

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:rofl:

[WAR RANDLEMAN!]

stay in the terlet faggot

[SatNav]

^^
"Just end it... we will come up with some excuse later"


LMAO

[___]

BJ had EVERY chance to tell his brother NOT to stop the fight. It is up to the fighter ultimately, if the doctor doesnt stop it, and he never said a word. He quit. End of story.

There was an article on Sherdog saying that Herb Dean told the dr. it needed to be stopped and BJ's brother agreed.